Artest would help
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Artest would help
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Artest would help
Would anyone be interested in dealing Gooden and Hughes for Artest and Kenny Thomas? Artest would be a good second option for the Cavs, and Thomas would be motivated by being on a good team. This would also make LeBron happy by finally giving him some help
Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.8 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes
Outgoing Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +2.8 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes
Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -2.8 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes
Outgoing Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +2.8 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -1.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Larry Hughes
6-5 SG from St. Louis
12.0 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 2.3 apg in 29.7 minutes
Drew Gooden
6-9 PF from Kansas
11.2 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 1.0 apg in 30.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
1.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 12.2 minutes
Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.9 apg in 38.4 minutes
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Id rather have Artest than Bibby.
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Not interested.
Thomas is a scrub. Our young bigs are better than him and he is under contract for 3 years. In-addition, Ron Artest, although a great player, is a trouble-maker, and he will want a LOT more money...in-addition, Sacramento will want a pick too.
Beside the fact that the trade isn't worth it and doesnt work under cap-rules, we wouldn't be guaranteed to be any better. We'd be weaker at the PF position, and although Artest is an improvement on Hughes for offense, Hughes knows our system, knows our players, and doesn't get into trouble.
Last thing we need is someone who may tarnish LeBron's name, or mess-up the team's chemistry.
I would have took Artest 2 years ago (while he was under contract), but now that he can opt-out without us getting anything in return... no, I think we're better-off if we wait till next year, when we have all the expiring contracts (possibly $35 million - if Varejao opts out).
The only players I'd be interested in is Jack, Andre Miller, Mike Miller, Or Lowry. The only one that I'd give-up a #1 pick for is Mike Miller, who is one of the top shooters in the league, and can play 3 positions.
Thomas is a scrub. Our young bigs are better than him and he is under contract for 3 years. In-addition, Ron Artest, although a great player, is a trouble-maker, and he will want a LOT more money...in-addition, Sacramento will want a pick too.
Beside the fact that the trade isn't worth it and doesnt work under cap-rules, we wouldn't be guaranteed to be any better. We'd be weaker at the PF position, and although Artest is an improvement on Hughes for offense, Hughes knows our system, knows our players, and doesn't get into trouble.
Last thing we need is someone who may tarnish LeBron's name, or mess-up the team's chemistry.
I would have took Artest 2 years ago (while he was under contract), but now that he can opt-out without us getting anything in return... no, I think we're better-off if we wait till next year, when we have all the expiring contracts (possibly $35 million - if Varejao opts out).
The only players I'd be interested in is Jack, Andre Miller, Mike Miller, Or Lowry. The only one that I'd give-up a #1 pick for is Mike Miller, who is one of the top shooters in the league, and can play 3 positions.
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I wouldn't make this trade for 2 reasons: 1. Artest becomes a free agent, and if he'd be motivated to play in Cleveland now, then we could probably get him for the mid-level exception in the offseason. 2. Kenny Thomas is really bad. I'd rather have Larry Hughes' mediocre production/horrible contract than Kenny Thomas' scrub production/crappy contract.
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I dont see how you say that at all. Im a kings fan and I hate kenny thomas as well. But kenny thomas MAKES FAR FAR FAR less then larry hughes. I consider larry hughes to be one of the top 3 contracts int he league. When yhou consider amount and what he does.
Kenny thomas at least only makes around 7 million for the same amount of years that larry hughes makes 12/13 million.
Theres no way you can sit there and try to say that hughes is a cbetter deal then thomas. It doesnt matter though theres no way the kings would do this deal.
Kenny thomas at least only makes around 7 million for the same amount of years that larry hughes makes 12/13 million.
Theres no way you can sit there and try to say that hughes is a cbetter deal then thomas. It doesnt matter though theres no way the kings would do this deal.
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Re: Artest would help
bigballajohn wrote:Would anyone be interested in dealing Gooden and Hughes for Artest and Kenny Thomas?
I would pull the trigger faster than Doc Holliday. If you say "Would you be interested in trading Hughes for..." I say YES before you finish the sentence. It could be "Would you be interested in trading Hughes for...
...Ron Artest?" - YES
...Luc Longley?" - YES
...a six-pack of Milwaukee's best and a bag of Cool Ranch Doritos?" - YES