Cavs vs Bulls

Post #21 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:48 pm

I still think that the most remarkable elevation to me was on the double pump. How the heck do you jump high enough to not only duck under someone but to travel another 5 feet in the air and still be about head level with the basket. That was just bananas. But I love all the posters so.

By the way, Wally with a good game. Delonte was pretty good as well although I want him to be a bit more agressive on offense however. Oh and Smith played well also. I don't like the fact that we were outrebounded however.

Post #22 » by **B Mac** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:50 pm

It was almost like the Cavs just flipped a switch with about 7 minutes to go and said, "Its time to beat the Bulls now." I never once thought this game was in question even though it was relatively close throughout and even when the Bulls got their lead. They have no closer, we have the best in the game.

This game again made me not miss Drew at all, and Larry for all the points he put up wasnt that great in doing so. True addition by subtraction with those two.

Oh and for those that have been around for a while, do you all remember when Bulls fans were all claiming that Deng could lock up LeBron defensively? That was funny talk.

Post #23 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:54 pm

Gordon Bombay wrote:cavs down 8 with 8 to go and ho hum lebron comes back in and we go on a 27-10 run

we were +21 with lebron on the floor

What's funny to me is that being down 8 with 8 to go doesn't even worry me anymore. We've been through that so often that I know that we'll make a run. The only concern is that we may not start it in time to make it a game at the end. Down 8 in a situation where they really got the lead with LeBron on the bench means nothing. He'll only sit a few minutes and the fun will begin.

By the way, it was Wally that shot the dagger tonight on a Gibson play. I can't wait until we have all of our shooters available. It ought to be fun.

By the way, when did we get to be such a good 3 point shooting team? Sasha, Gibson, Wally and Damon. Man we're as good as just about every team with the attention that LeBron draws.

One more thing, nobody should be saying that Chicago didn't guard LeBron. They rolled the defense his way and he was being triple teamed when he had the ball.

Post #24 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:59 pm

B Mac wrote:It was almost like the Cavs just flipped a switch with about 7 minutes to go and said, "Its time to beat the Bulls now." I never once thought this game was in question even though it was relatively close throughout and even when the Bulls got their lead. They have no closer, we have the best in the game.

This game again made me not miss Drew at all, and Larry for all the points he put up wasnt that great in doing so. True addition by subtraction with those two.

Oh and for those that have been around for a while, do you all remember when Bulls fans were all claiming that Deng could lock up LeBron defensively? That was funny talk.

I agree. The Bulls are still a jump shooting team and they just don't worry me until they get a serious inside threat or at least start looking to get their interior threats involved. Something about having Ben Gordon as your main scorer just means that you need to take a big lead and hold on. LeBron allows us to come from behind relatively easily.

richard · Post #25 » by **richard** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 8:59 pm

this is exactly what mj did to the cavs all those years.

heathmalc · Post #26 » by **heathmalc** » Sun Mar 2, 2008 10:15 pm

richard wrote:this is exactly what mj did to the cavs all those years.

Yeah, but MJ didn't have 4 new team-mates and everyone else injured.

Look who played:

Wallace,Smith,West,Szczerbiak,Varejao,Jones,Brown and LeBron.

Of all those players, the ONLY one who played with us last year with regular minutes was Varejao...and that was off the bench. Jones was here...he just didn't play. EVERYONE else is new.

Post #27 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:21 am

Bulls are really bad. Last Friday we played the Wiz who are decimated by injuries - and blew a huge lead and lost.

Dont expect to see us in the playoffs....for a while.

heathmalc · Post #28 » by **heathmalc** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:51 am

The Bulls still have a ton of talent... they just need to trade some of it to get a talented player who is a LEADER!

That is the Bulls #1 problem - No LEADERSHIP!!!

L&H_05 · Post #29 » by **L&H_05** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:59 am

Watching Larry clank jumpers in that arena while wearing a red jersey was a little piece of heaven on this earth..

To think, we actually not only traded this guy, but we did so to a division rival... Feeling was unreal...

Post #30 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:05 am

Hughes just has a false sense of his own ability. He just is not that good of a jump shooter. If he had better shot selection he might be able to shoot a decent percentage, however, I don't think he'll ever do that.

This is my favorite quote from the Bulls board

It's like Cleveland just suddenly said "oh, it's time to beat the Bulls now.

I'm not sure that is how the Cavs think, but it sure looks like it. They definitely turn it on after LeBron comes back in in the 4th quarter. Generally speaking they can at that point make just about any game competitive.

heathmalc · Post #31 » by **heathmalc** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:55 am

L&H_05 wrote:Watching Larry clank jumpers in that arena while wearing a red jersey was a little piece of heaven on this earth..

To think, we actually not only traded this guy, but we did so to a division rival... Feeling was unreal...

Couldn't think of anything better than what you said!

Man...was it good to see him lose a game for the opposing team!

Post #32 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:07 am

Hughes didn't lose it, he just didn't win it. He actually was one of the more productive players for the Bulls today. He and to a lesser extent Gooden actually kept them in the game when they really had no right to be.

heathmalc · Post #33 » by **heathmalc** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:02 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:Hughes didn't lose it, he just didn't win it. He actually was one of the more productive players for the Bulls today. He and to a lesser extent Gooden actually kept them in the game when they really had no right to be.

Re-watch the game... On SEVERAL occasions Larry threw-up 3pt shots (2 for 6) when he had an out-let man who had either an easy dunk or an open shot.

Larry DID lose this game. He played the most minutes and made a TON of bad decisions.

Just because he shot 40% and had 20-some points doesn't mean he kept them in it.... He could have had those same amount of points and maybe 5 or 6 more assists and gave the Bulls a chance, but instead he took some really dumb(selfish) shots that cost the Bulls a score.

Post #34 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 12:32 pm

I still disagree since I don't think there is anything that Hughes could have done to win this game for his team. Larry was being Larry which by itself comes with both a good and a bad side. Fact is that Larry just missed those 3's. He was open and just like when he was with the Cavs he's going to take shots when he's open. He's also one of the better Bulls as far as getting his own shot.

heathmalc · Post #35 » by **heathmalc** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:20 pm

Well, I'm glad that Larry took those shots while LeBron was guarding him, instead of passing it to a HOT Ben Gordon!

Post #36 » by **UGA Hayes** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:57 pm

I was reading some of the stuff by your beat writer Brian Windhorst and have come to the conclusion that he should be your head offensive assistant since he clearly understands offense better than your head coach.

Post #37 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:28 pm

I think this is an interesting oddity. Gooden was cheered when announced while Hughes was booed.

L&H_05 · Post #38 » by **L&H_05** » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:52 pm

Gooden problem was the fact he was just stupid.. There was no expectations for him from the fans.. The fans can show some compassion for his stupidity..

Larry got paid.. There was expectations there...

Furthermore, while Gooden was stupid on defense, Larry was just as stupid on offense... It's much easier to hide the defensive lapses amongst the causal fans as opposed to coming down on 3 on 1 fast breaks and launching jumpers for all to see..

Post #39 » by **B Mac** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:25 am

Larry's just lucky that his pre game comments werent made known until after the game. I imagine the next time he comes to Cleveland he will hear it a lot worse.

heathmalc · Post #40 » by **heathmalc** » Tue Mar 4, 2008 7:52 am

B Mac wrote:Larry's just lucky that his pre game comments werent made known until after the game. I imagine the next time he comes to Cleveland he will hear it a lot worse.

That's pretty much a guarantee.