Baseline Runner wrote:Before Nash, Marion had Kidd running fastbreaks. The only year he was without a PG he won 29 games with Stoudamire. The last couple of years his scoring and rebounding has been dropping off despite the Suns scoring as much as ever. He was relegated to a role player expected to rebound while getting occasional transition and garbage points. Its no surprise that Miami is still losing with him.
In my opinion we need a legitimate second option to go alongside Lebron, a player that teams need to fear and focus on. We don't necessarily need a swingman to fill that roll, but it makes most sense acquiring one since we are weakest at SG and there is an abundance of scoring swingmen. My first choice would be Artest and second would be Michael Redd. Both players are still in their prime.
Before nash, Marion had Stephon Marbury... Kidd was there for Marions first two years in the league. Marion was the main player on the team for a few years before nash and Stoudamire came into their own with phoenix. Four years with Marbury to be exact.
All your logic is flawed since Phoenix was a border line playoff team with Marbury and a top 3 seed with Nash. Without Marion Phoenix has been under .500. The Nash/Marion combo was just nasty. We forget that the point guard needs players to be the point that they need to be.
Marion was not a product of the system, he actually helped the system WORK!!! His athleticism and transition baskets as well as his rebounding, defense, and open 3pointers helped the system. You all are very misinformed and have not watched his game over the years.
You could actually argue that he sacrificed his game for the betterment of Amare Stoudamire the last few years. When Nash first came Amare was still growing and Marion was the main scoring option as the team one 60 games their first year with Nash.
His defense is consistent, he gets steals, plays 1 on 1 defense very well, blocks shots on the ball and off the ball, alters shots and can defend multiple positions. His offense is pretty consistent as well with or without Nash. With marbury he averaged 19, 21, 19, 19 in the four seasons, With Kidd he averaged 17, and with Nash he averaged 19, 21, 18, 16. All this while averaged 2 or less turnovers per game in every season.
Kwame Brown is servicable, get over it.
