Pure PG or... (sorry it is long)

[eyejayem]

I was just looking on the general discusion board and it kind of got me thinking. The board was on wing players who can guard PGs. I want a PG more than anything but it is tough to get a PG who can score and play defense. I think that it may be possible to get a PG that teams are willing to let them go but my top two players who are obtainable and can sort of do what is asked is Mo Williams and Kirk Hinrich but problem is they are both in our division and likely wont be traded to us.

So the alternative is to either get a lesser PG, stick with Delonte West (which I wouldnt mind), or play like when we had Hughes with either a Combo guard or a passing wing.

So on the board someone suggested Ron Artest and I wasnt big on him but his high baskeball IQ,defense, and ability is the most you are going to get per dollar and I think his age is catching up with him so his sanity is at a managable level so I think that since everyone is going to be offering the MLE I dont think anybody can offer him the Lebron factor of being the best possible two-way duo in basketball. He scores,rebounds, and gives you 4asts and 2+steals a game. He has played PF in the West against some teams but for the fact that he can guard 4 positions is important.

So then I'm also for Pavs for Mike Miller but I would try and get Darko or Hakim Warrick who seem to be playing better with Pau gone and even beat the Lakers last night with good games from both. But that way we can balance AV out with an offensive big. Darko I can see developing into Z's aire apparent.

So possibly a
Pavs/Joe Smith/19th pick for Mike Miller/Darko/27th pick(Lakers) We sell them on the ability to get Hibbert with the 19th,if not we add future 2nd


Big Ben is good but I think we go for the Gusto and try to get the only other team that was interested and giving a big piece to take:

Big Ben for AK47

and this is purely for their search for a center to pair with Boozer or backup Okur and cap relief for Deron's contract all rolled into 1. There could be extras but this is primary and now we finally have a blocking threat and a lead blocker at that who is more comfortable playing the 4 instead of SF.Plus he gets you 4 asts and can guard 4 positions.


So after all that writing I guess would we consider a big non pg lineup is the question but with 4 guys who can initiate the offense and all have high BBall IQs and the only guy who has had questionable defense is Mike Miller but he has stepped in up the last couple of years.

Lebron James 7.3asts / Delonte West /Eric Snow
Mike Miller 3.4asts / Daniel Gibson /Damon Jones
Ron Artest 3.6asts / Wally Szczerbiak
Andrei Kirilenko 4.1asts / Anderson Varajao
Zydrunas Ilgauskas / Darko Milicic
*Lebron wouldnt necessarily play PG it's just due to his asts numbers.I see it always depending on the team we play because in some cases we may start Delonte but our lineup and bench is so versatile you never know.


With the late pick I'm going to take either Kareem Rush(Kansas) or Chris Douglas-Roberts(Memphis). We still have our expirings to get the PG we need to put us over the top at the trade deadline or if we are thriving and dont want to go back we can let them expire and improve our cap.

So I am ready for the bashing sorry it had to be so long.

[B Mac]

Your lineup definately looks well balanced, although still no other player who can create his own shot besides LeBron. If I had that lineup I would still start Delonte and bring one of Artest or Miller off the bench (probably Artest). We still would need a big who could score with his back to the basket as only 1 of those 4 can do it and even he cant do it regularly.

Also I havent looked, but what kind of salary situation would we be in with all those guys? We would have at least 4 10 mil+ guys in LBJ, Z, Wally, and AK (not sure about Artest) and Gibson and AV are looking to get paid soon. Plus Mike Miller makes what like 8 a year? Oh and Darko makes a pretty good amount as well I believe. Dont think that would work financially.

[B Mac]

Did some salary numbers for next season:

AK 15.1
LeBron 14.4
Wally 13
Z 10.8
Miller 9
Artest 8.5 (PO)
Snow 7.3
Darko 7
AV 5.8
Damon 4.5
Gibson 4 (personal estimate of what he'll get)
Delonte 2.8
Late first rounder 1

103.2 Million for 13 guys. Add another couple guys at the league min to fill out the roster and you're looking at 104 million. Now I know that Gilbert has said he will spend and go over the luxury limit, but that seems like quite a bit over. Interestingly enough though, that would currently be the second highest team salary in the league, and no not to the Knicks, but to the Mavericks at 105 mil. (The Knicks are second at 88) So while that is certaintly possible, Im not sure that the Cavs will be throwing around that kind of money.

[eyejayem]

I think thats why we may let the ~25mil come off the books at the end of the season and only do we use it unless we get the PG or player we want or need. I think that Cleveland easily becomes the favorites.

Oh and I agree with getting a post player but how is that different from now, we have only Z. But if you look at Sacremento Ron is their best post player. And I like the mismatches that AK gives like Josh Smith in Atl. With everyone being capable of rebounding even Mike Miller.

Plus I'd rather AK's salary then Bens plus his salary kind of is offset by Rons value and bargain price if they both play up to par.