Cavs vs Wizards Game 5 Edition (Cavs lead 3-1)

yungal07 · Post #121 » by **yungal07** » Thu May 1, 2008 3:42 am

LoveThemCavs wrote:Oh man, what a dumb foul by Joe Smith.. The refs strike again, does Washington shoot FT's every time down the court or what?

you do realize the Cavs shot 7 more foul shots than the wiz right?

newslowsad · Post #122 » by **newslowsad** » Thu May 1, 2008 3:52 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:I'm not blaming the ref eventhough they did help the Wiz a ton.

They owed us a call or two after all the calls LeBron has gotten all series.

WizBiz · Post #123 » by **WizBiz** » Thu May 1, 2008 3:58 am

yungal07 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you do realize the Cavs shot 7 more foul shots than the wiz right?

He was mocking a previous post, I don't think he was serious about that one.

Post #124 » by **B Mac** » Thu May 1, 2008 5:33 am

Was LeBron fouled on that last play? Absolutely, probably twice.

Should it have ever got to that point? No way in hell. Stupid, stupid play by a team that generally finishes very strong. I mean how can you be up 5 with a minute left and let the other team back in it? Stupid decisions by everyone.

With that said, that last look by LeBron is one he normally finishes anyway. I guess he is human.

Donkey McDonkerton · Post #125 » by **Donkey McDonkerton** » Thu May 1, 2008 5:38 am

B Mac wrote:Was LeBron fouled on that last play? Absolutely, probably twice.

Should it have ever got to that point? No way in hell. Stupid, stupid play by a team that generally finishes very strong. I mean how can you be up 5 with a minute left and let the other team back in it? Stupid decisions by everyone.

Looked like Z pushed Darius into him, and Darius turned to avoid it as much as he could.

B Mac wrote:With that said, that last look by LeBron is one he normally finishes anyway. I guess he is human.

we have a chance now....

Post #126 » by **B Mac** » Thu May 1, 2008 5:57 am

Still no chance.. The Cavs just like finishing you guys off on your home court. Gives them the warm fuzzies.

Post #127 » by **B Mac** » Thu May 1, 2008 6:06 am

Oh and apparently Sasha practiced yesterday and was "available" to play tonight. Sure would have been nice to have Pavs in there instead of having Wally give everyone a free pass to the bucket while missing wide open layups himself.

Would love to see him back in game 6.

Post #128 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu May 1, 2008 1:33 pm

Looked like Z pushed Darius into him, and Darius turned to avoid it as much as he could.

Are you kidding me? So what you are saying is, Songaila was trying to get out of the way of LeBron although he was the only man between him and a game winning/series ending dunk? I'm not even going to comment on that.

goddago · Post #129 » by **goddago** » Thu May 1, 2008 2:08 pm

1. The rest of the team has to step up early in the game. LeBron can't be expected to go balls out the entire game.

2. Bad shot selection by LeBron on taking that 3 late in the game. I know he was thinking dagger but bad choice.

3. Too bad someone wasn't aware enough to take possession of one of those tips instead of trying to tip it in with about 13 seconds left. And yes I understand heat of the moment.

4. Wonder if the Wiz fans saw Butler travel on his drive? Personally I don't have a prob with the non call. Just wondering if Wiz fans noticed.

5. The Wiz just flat out wanted it more

6. Wally needs to sit. AV's minutes need to be severly curtailed.

LoveThemCavs · Post #130 » by **LoveThemCavs** » Thu May 1, 2008 3:24 pm

floydfan29 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He was mocking a previous post, I don't think he was serious about that one.

Good eye floyd. I was baiting with the ref posts. Every time the Cavs beat the Wizards, thats all we hear. So I figured let you guys know how it feels for a night. No credit for the win, it was all the refs. But I didn't mean it, good game last night. Cavs had it, but the Wiz took it. IMO, the rebounding was the difference. If the Wizards can keep even on the glass, the Cavs are in trouble. Congrats.

FlightNo.23 · Post #131 » by **FlightNo.23** » Thu May 1, 2008 4:03 pm

This felt a lot like Game 5 two years ago. We had a sizable lead late and let it slip away. But only this time LeBron didn't straddle the baseline and drop it in :-?

fishercob · Post #132 » by **fishercob** » Thu May 1, 2008 6:29 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:
Looked like Z pushed Darius into him, and Darius turned to avoid it as much as he could.

Are you kidding me? So what you are saying is, Songaila was trying to get out of the way of LeBron although he was the only man between him and a game winning/series ending dunk? I'm not even going to comment on that.

Not kidding, what the replay on ESPN.com. Z's a sly dude and I'd love to have the guy on my team. He pushes Songaila in the lower back and then immediately goes to the rim for the tip.

Donkey McDonkerton · Post #133 » by **Donkey McDonkerton** » Thu May 1, 2008 6:40 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:
Looked like Z pushed Darius into him, and Darius turned to avoid it as much as he could.

Are you kidding me? So what you are saying is, Songaila was trying to get out of the way of LeBron although he was the only man between him and a game winning/series ending dunk? I'm not even going to comment on that.

uh, watch it again. He was pushed and was heading straight for Lebron.

Post #134 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu May 1, 2008 9:29 pm

One thing I must throw in, it's kinda funny that Wiz fans say LeBron was whining to the refs when clearly they must not have been watching their own players doing the exact same thing but way way more often. I swear they were lobbying the refs during every break in the action.

gflem · Post #135 » by **gflem** » Thu May 1, 2008 9:44 pm

You know what is funny? I only read one post that blaced some blame where it belongs. How in the hell does M brown just let his team stand around night after night and watch lebron either win or lose game after game at the end.

You would think that in a big game he would at least have a play drawn up where lebron pounds the ball at the top, but JUST ONCE someone would actually MOVE WITHOUT THE BALL.

I think the other team might die of shock if that happened, and for once we might have an open shot instead of a shot by lebron contested by 3 other players. Is anyone else on the team allowed to create, or is it a team rule that lebron has to bring the ball up court at the end of games?

And what about putting a hard foul on Caron when he is lighting you up? I mean wally cant stay in front of him anyway, so why not let wally clock him a few times to slow him down some? Alot of good can come from that, you know, caron might flinch or even better wally might foul out.

and of course lets not get the ball to Z late in the game, I mean he is a good ft shooter and the best inside presence on the team so ignoring him makes perfect sense, doesnt it? We should have left big ben in the game, even if he went 2 for 10 on fts in the end, it would have been better than the 3 lebron jacked up, or just about anything wally did the entire game.

other than that it was almost a watchable game, maybe next game we will try to defend catravel, and lefouled will go to the basket instead of launching late 3's, and pounding out the shot clock when we should be playing offense.

Post #136 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Thu May 1, 2008 9:55 pm

Part of the reason we lost was both LeBron and Z split their free throws late.

Post #137 » by **B Mac** » Fri May 2, 2008 4:53 am

Its just ridiculous that we had Haywood fouled out of the game and didnt get it down in the post to Z once after that happend. I mean who the hell was going to even try to guard him once Haywood was out?