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If We Land a Big Name Like Amare Would It Cheapen a Title?

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Re: If We Land a Big Name Like Amare Would It Cheapen a Title? 

Post#21 » by heathmalc » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:05 am

stillalive wrote:won't be happening. AMARE WILL BE ANNOUNCED AS A BULL TOMORROW!!!


Hopefully you come back to our board to explain what happened in the final seconds that made him (Amare) get sent to the Cavaliers...because that IS where he has been traded. 8-)
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Post#22 » by ol smokee » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:05 am

...I just don't agree that getting amare guarantees anything. The Lakers are for real , San Antonio for real , Boston can defiantly beat us and all have multiple all-stars and Championship experience. We have to be better to beat them. Nothing is guaranteed. Isn't that the beauty of sports. If we win it. We deserve it. I know Lebron does. We deserve a Championship. I don't think any of those teams will be throwing in the towel just because we got amare. Plus the pieces we do lose are going to hurt. We have WON Nothing. Who are we to talk like we get to choose if we are champions. You have to win it first. We should be feared...... then Lebron wont leave.
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Re: If We Land a Big Name Like Amare Would It Cheapen a Title? 

Post#23 » by TheCardinal20 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:22 am

Cheapen? I guess, somewhat, but are Cavs fans really going to care?

Other fan-bases will probably use it as a put-down, but they are simply jealous. I'm of the opinion that LeBron will be on the MJ "basketball god" level before long, and he will certainly be the centerpiece of a dynasty(barring Dwight Howard and the Magic lucking into another superstar/Andrew Bynum staying healthy and turning into a legit stud) and this is coming from a Bulls fan. Even if the Bulls were to land Amare, I don't think Rose/Amare would be enough to keep Howard and LeBron from dominating the EC for the next ten years. It's going to be a long decade for 95% of the teams in the NBA, but the Bulls had their run, and the Cavs fans deserve what is coming.
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Post#24 » by stillalive » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:00 am

heathmalc wrote:
stillalive wrote:won't be happening. AMARE WILL BE ANNOUNCED AS A BULL TOMORROW!!!


Hopefully you come back to our board to explain what happened in the final seconds that made him (Amare) get sent to the Cavaliers...because that IS where he has been traded. 8-)



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Post#25 » by MAQ » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:46 am

stillalive wrote:won't be happening. AMARE WILL BE ANNOUNCED AS A BULL TOMORROW!!!

lets chill out bro...counting your chickens before they hatch is never a good thing
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Post#26 » by Flight 23 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:22 am

Two-thrids of Boston's core identifies with other teams. So I've wondered how Boston fans can feel a connection to their team.

But I guess when you suck for 20 years, you'll take excitement in whatever package it comes in.
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Post#27 » by Flight 23 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:40 am

heathmalc wrote:Chicago, had ex Cavalier players all over their roster, and traded for Rodman...got Pippen in a steal; got Harper in a steal, got Jackson in a steal....


Dennis Rodman was pretty much about to be banished from the NBA entirely. Nobody wanted him, so the Spurs traded him for Will Purdue rather than send him home.

Pippen was a steal, but did even the Bulls themselves know what was to come?
Pippen: 8/4 in 20min off bench
Polynice: 4/4 in 13 min off bench

Harper was signed as a free agent. He went from 20ppg with LAC to just 7ppg with the Bulls. The Bulls altered his game from scoring to defense and playmaking.

Jackson was a steal? He was an assistant coach under Doug Collins. They got him from the CBA. Jackson was going to retire from coaching until the Bulls called with the assistant job.


Those old Bulls teams turned the unwanted and raw talent into something great. The closest thing we've seen to that since then is the Detroit Pistons, who were made up of unwanted players that the league had given up on.
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Post#28 » by RevMan26 » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:56 am

^^ That is true about the Pistons. They won a championship really without a star player.
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Post#29 » by Baseline Runner » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:36 am

Good discussion here.

Obviously teams are built in more ways than just the draft. Players like Varejao, Pavlovic, West and even Mo to a degree, were rejects from other teams and they are thriving here. Cleveland is where they found their home and they are Cleveland Cavaliers. It really doesn't seem fair though with players like Amare to jump to a great team for very little in return. If we had to trade Mo Williams, or Varejao and West or some other combination that would give a significant amount of talent back then it would be different, but in the deals discuss we are giving up only potential and depleting almost none of our existing talent. Sure I would like the trade because it benefits us greatly, but I don't like trades like this in general and they aren't good for the NBA.
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Re: If We Land a Big Name Like Amare Would It Cheapen a Title? 

Post#30 » by Don Ford » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:22 am

Getting Amare definitely would cheapen a championship for Cleveleand. In fact, to make it even more challenging for themselves I think that Cleveland should trade LeBron to the Lakers for Luke Walton.
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Post#31 » by gflem » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:56 am

Baseline Runner wrote:As much as I would love to see Amare playing next to Lebron, I also feel we'd be getting championships delivered to us on a silver platter. We already acquired an excellent PG in Mo for nothing, and to get Amare in similar circumstances would lessen the enjoyment of Cleveland bringing home the title. You look at the great dynasties of the past, San Antonio, Chicago, Boston, Lakers, they built their teams the hard way from the ground up. Cleveland would be a dynasty sure, but one in whose main components other than Lebron: Mo, Delonte, Amare; all came in lopsided trades by desperate owners.

What is sweeter, buying a new home with money that you worked hard and long for, or someone just giving you that home for nothing. Sure there is the initial euphoria of getting something for nothing, but you'd never cherish it like you would something that you worked hard for.


Cmon, transferring the wealth is in vogue now. Why not in the NBA as well? I mean the Lakers benefitted from it last year. You dont hear any of their fans whining about that "trade" do you? Or the obnoxious Celtic fans either. Get with the times, hard work and perserverence is to be penalized nowadays.
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Re: If We Land a Big Name Like Amare Would It Cheapen a Title? 

Post#32 » by Nirvana » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:24 pm

I actually would have felt that adding Shaq would have cheapened a title...
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