Have we become the big dogs?

[JR Hawks]

This is the kind of silly talk I'd expect from some of the posters on those boards. First and foremost you can't dream about 30 championships either. No matter which team you have way fewer than that. Not to mention being a big dog (whatever that means) is not something that has anything to do with your teams history but about your teams present. In addition, there really were not many that thought that the Lakers were favorites until the Celtics showed and inability to win on the road in the playoffs. By the way, your post shows absolutely no respect and the fact that you put "with all due respect" just points out how disingenuous you actually are.

I've noticed most bandwagon jumpers don't know much about NBA History. Do your research and I'll think you'll find the Celtics and Lakers have combined for over 30 NBA championships. How many do your Cavs have?

Oh...and being a big dog has something to do with winning NBA championships. Let me know when you know something about the topic.

[RevMan26]

Wow your cockiness amazes me. Bandwogoners? Most of us have been Cavalier fans way before the LBJ era. Just because we haven't won a championship ever does not mean we are an elite team to beat.

[Notorious23]

Do championships from the 60's or older when there where 8 teams and yours was the Harlem Globe Trotters (unbeatable) of the era count?

By my count you have 8 that matter. When Lebron is done we will have that many or more. Please go back to pulling hair, punching balls, spitting at players and crawling around on your knees. Perhaps the NBA will realize what this Celtics team is (b**ches) and put you in the WNBA where you belong.

[ddubb]

I know its Easter and all, but there is whole lot of egg counting being done over here...

There is an old saying for newbies on the big stage; 'Act like you've been there before'.

Reality check guys, the playoffs haven't even started yet. There is a very tough 2nd round series ahead of you that everyone is looking comletely past.

[Notorious23]

All the Delonte West jock riders should take a good look at that photo.

I take great delight in knowing that Delonte has such serious mental problems that he was probably considering suicide a couple hours after that photo was taken. What a head case.

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Talk about classless. If this guy even views our board again he should be banned. I can't believe what Celtics Mods will tolerate. I get a warning for saying the guy who stabbed Pierce should have finished the job on the general board by a Mod (Sunshinekids) but this is tolerated and locked so it can't be changed.


Get used to us Celtics fans. We are your new overlords. Stay on your knees in our presence.

[Notorious23]

I know its Easter and all, but there is whole lot of egg counting being done over here...

There is an old saying for newbies on the big stage; 'Act like you've been there before'.

Reality check guys, the playoffs haven't even started yet. There is a very tough 2nd round series ahead of you that everyone is looking comletely past.

With who Orlando? Oh wait that's you... Last year we were the East champs and you guys anointed yourselves the ones to beat because of your record and how you were playing. Guess what. You fell off. You gotta get through us the #1 seed. Good luck you'll need it.

A lot of riding last years coat tails by your fans and team. Too bad your nothing but a shadow of last year.

[ddubb]

I know its Easter and all, but there is whole lot of egg counting being done over here...

There is an old saying for newbies on the big stage; 'Act like you've been there before'.

Reality check guys, the playoffs haven't even started yet. There is a very tough 2nd round series ahead of you that everyone is looking comletely past.

With who Orlando? Oh wait that's you... Last year we were the East champs and you guys anointed yourselves the ones to beat because of your record and how you were playing. Guess what. You fell off. You gotta get through us the #1 seed. Good luck you'll need it.

A lot of riding last years coat tails by your fans and team. Too bad your nothing but a shadow of last year.

We'll see. I can't deny that you guys are much improved over last year. Gotta love the contribution from Delonte and Mo. It will take 7 games for any team to beat you. If we get KG back, we'll have as good a chance as anyone.


That said, don't overlook Miami or Atlanta. If you have to face D Wade, it very well could be a repeat of last year, with ya'll watching the ECF from the couch.

[TheOUTLAW]

This is the kind of silly talk I'd expect from some of the posters on those boards. First and foremost you can't dream about 30 championships either. No matter which team you have way fewer than that. Not to mention being a big dog (whatever that means) is not something that has anything to do with your teams history but about your teams present. In addition, there really were not many that thought that the Lakers were favorites until the Celtics showed and inability to win on the road in the playoffs. By the way, your post shows absolutely no respect and the fact that you put "with all due respect" just points out how disingenuous you actually are.

I've noticed most bandwagon jumpers don't know much about NBA History. Do your research and I'll think you'll find the Celtics and Lakers have combined for over 30 NBA championships. How many do your Cavs have?

Oh...and being a big dog has something to do with winning NBA championships. Let me know when you know something about the topic.

Boy!!! You need to learn how to read before you try to call me out. I could care less about how many the 2 franchises have won. It's not about 2 franchises it's about 1. I've been a Cavs fan likely longer than you've been alive and clearly longer than you've been reading.

[Bob Saget]

here is a little fact, the cavs are 3-6 against the Lakers, Celtics, and Magic.....all 3 of those wins coming at home.

Yes the Cavs are good and should be the favorites to come out of the east, but Top Dog? idk about that, the Lakers beat them fairly handily both games, the first one which they had bynum, but kobe dislocated his finger. the second game no bynum, end of a 6 game road trip, and kobe was getting an IV at half time. obviously this doesnt really mean all that much come the finals (i think itll be cavs/lakers barring any injuries), but i still think the lakers have the psychological advantage over the cavs, and lebron hasnt gotten over the kobe hump yet. Regardless of what happened on sunday, id still rather play the magin than the celts if i were the cavs. That Boston homecourt is quite insane, and they are a whole different team with garnett

[kenneth9265]

The Playoffs and reg season are two different animals and I think teams are going to play the Cavs like it is game in the first game.. Teams look to play us harder and stay focus with towards the Cavaliers they would a boston or a orlando....

[TheOUTLAW]

Who said top dog? Man, I really wish you guys would learn to read and interpret correctly. I find is interesting the LeBron hasn't gotten over the Kobe hump when before this season the Lakers hadn't beaten us in over 2 years. Kobe isn't the issue, it's the Laker bigs and while I love how people point out whatever reason that they can come up with that the Lakers might have been under full strength they seem to not want to say anything about why the Cavs weren't. Eh, this argument is silly. The Cavs are clearly one of the big dogs in the NBA this year and to argue otherwise takes a complete idiot. No insult intended.

[JR Hawks]

Who said top dog? Man, I really wish you guys would learn to read and interpret correctly. I find is interesting the LeBron hasn't gotten over the Kobe hump when before this season the Lakers hadn't beaten us in over 2 years. Kobe isn't the issue, it's the Laker bigs and while I love how people point out whatever reason that they can come up with that the Lakers might have been under full strength they seem to not want to say anything about why the Cavs weren't. Eh, this argument is silly. The Cavs are clearly one of the big dogs in the NBA this year and to argue otherwise takes a complete idiot. No insult intended.

Congrats. Your best season ever has you as one of the big dogs in the league. How exciting!

LOL at the poster that said the Celtics only have 8 NBA Championships that "count". First of all, all 17 "count". Second of all, the 8 that "count" is 8 more than the Cavs have ever won.

[Notorious23]

Dude look what you said about Delonte. If there was any justice in this world you wouldn't be here tomorrow. You're probably the same guy cheering for Delonte 2 years ago. Oh wait probably not you probably jumped on the band wagon last year.

All the Delonte West jock riders should take a good look at that photo.

I take great delight in knowing that Delonte has such serious mental problems that he was probably considering suicide a couple hours after that photo was taken. What a head case.

The Cleveland Browns have many titles from before 1946. You don't see us bragging about them. 8 teams. That must have been hard. There were probably 4 in the playoffs. Too bad I'm sure last years was the first you experienced.

Again though if there was any justice in the world you would not be here tomorrow with comments like what you made.

[tdfoss]

Who said top dog? Man, I really wish you guys would learn to read and interpret correctly. I find is interesting the LeBron hasn't gotten over the Kobe hump when before this season the Lakers hadn't beaten us in over 2 years. Kobe isn't the issue, it's the Laker bigs and while I love how people point out whatever reason that they can come up with that the Lakers might have been under full strength they seem to not want to say anything about why the Cavs weren't. Eh, this argument is silly. The Cavs are clearly one of the big dogs in the NBA this year and to argue otherwise takes a complete idiot. No insult intended.

I'm a lakers fan, Cleveland is one of the big dogs and I think we will end this discussion in the finals.

[kenneth9265]

I wonder if this will be the year the Best teams will not make the final? lakers plays Utah, cleveland plays detroit...any upsets?

[Notorious23]

The excuses keep rolling

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11629646

The Cavaliers will have home-court advantage as far as they go in the NBA playoffs. They don't deserve it.

Sure, LeBron and Co. have dominated the Eastern Conference pretty much from the get-go, thus earning the right to have Games 1 and 2 -- and potentially 5 and 7 -- at home in all series leading up to the Finals.

But why should a team that was swept by the other conference's regular-season champ and didn't play nearly as difficult a schedule get an advantage should it match up with the Lakers in the Finals?


Out West, Kobe Bryant's Lakers tangle with eight other teams that have at least 45 wins on the season. (Getty Images) Kobe's club couldn't match the Cavs' record, but its season has been every bit as impressive, if not more so.

Eight of the 11 winningest teams in the league reside in the West, and this is despite the fact these heavyweights beat up on each other all season. For the Lakers to play nearly one-third of their games within this elite group and still come within a whisker of matching the Cavs' record is remarkable.

• Playoff Race

I'm not saying the Lakers should get home court should they face the Cavs in the Finals. The point is: Having regular-season record in an unbalanced schedule dictate such an advantage is worse than awarding it to the winner of the All-Star Game.

Alas, the Cavs have clinched the home-court edge, and thus must be considered at least a co-favorite with the Lakers to win the championship. Here are the odds I'd put on each team:

Lakers (6/5): Nothing will come easy in the West, but key injuries to Manu Ginobili and Tracy McGrady should make the Lakers' march a bit smoother.

Cavaliers (7/5): They should enjoy watching the Celtics and Magic beat up on each other in Round 2 while they coast into the East finals. That freshness could be the difference in a relatively even battle with Boston.

Celtics (9/5): Make no mistake about it: Only three teams have a chance to win it all. The Celtics have coasted this far. The question is: Can they flip the switch now that the time has come?

Field (10/1): That's right, you get all 13 other playoff teams and 10/1 odds. You want it? You'd have to be a sucker to take it. The Mavericks could surprise in the West (until they run into the Lakers) and Orlando is the only other team in the East with a shot (no way it beats both Boston and Cleveland, though). Remember this about the NBA playoffs: You don't often get surprises.

That's why getting the home-court advantage throughout the playoffs was such a big thing for the Cavs.

And why it's not fair.

I'm picking the Lakers to go all the way, so I'm moving them ahead of the Cavaliers in my final regular-season

[Notorious23]

Cavs:26-4 vs West
Lakers:21-9 vs East

Hmmm.... Easier conference is which?

[TheOUTLAW]

Yeah, the easier schedule crap is totally overblown by people who don't really look beyond the superficial. I would much rather play in the West for the playoffs. While there are a number of teams that are even all of them are inferior to the Lakers and would be inferior to the Cavs. The Cavs actually match up way better against the Western pretenders than they do against those in the East.

[kenneth9265]

I don't see Cleveand sweeping the first or second round of the play offs...things could get scary for the Cavs at times....