ImageImageImage

Other FA options

Moderator: ijspeelman

DeepFromTheQ
Ballboy
Posts: 9
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 08, 2009

Other FA options 

Post#1 » by DeepFromTheQ » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:25 pm

We need to address 3 areas in FA now that teams can officially sign players:the swing man, combo guard and a stretch PF. What does everyone think of these options for those roles?

Swing Man:
Josh Childress
Marvin Williams
Linas Kleiza
Matt Barnes

Combo Guard:
Jarret Jack
Jannero Pargo
Marquis Daniels

PF:
Channing Frye
Glenn Davis
Leon Powe
Zaza Pachulia

Let me know what you think, I think all of these are possible and realistic for the Cavs to add to the team.
JDaWg1000
Sophomore
Posts: 133
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 14, 2008

Re: Other FA options 

Post#2 » by JDaWg1000 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:48 pm

out of this list i would prefer Josh Childress, Matt Barnes, Marquis Daniels, Channing Frye, Glenn Davis

any combo of these would be fine by me as long as we get pne PF and either a combo gaurd or swingman, not say a swingman and combo guard.

above all though Marion is optio one, i dditn see him on your list did he sign today?
tidho
General Manager
Posts: 9,621
And1: 3,161
Joined: Jun 12, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#3 » by tidho » Wed Jul 8, 2009 5:50 pm

If I could only get one, i'd take Marvin Williams.
I like Frye a lot, I'm hoping they can make that work.

If you get the right swing player I don't think you need to add a combo guard. West is ideal as a combo guard and you've got Boobie sitting on the bench.

With the recent cap announcements I don't think there's anyway we sign three. Two tops, then 1 year vet minimums to fill out the bench.

A second max for 2010 isn't impossible, but its getting real close. If they sign Andy any hope for that is lost and then maybe you consider offering someone like Childress a few years too.
Triumph36
Starter
Posts: 2,061
And1: 0
Joined: Jun 26, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#4 » by Triumph36 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:27 pm

tidho wrote:If I could only get one, i'd take Marvin Williams.
I like Frye a lot, I'm hoping they can make that work.

If you get the right swing player I don't think you need to add a combo guard. West is ideal as a combo guard and you've got Boobie sitting on the bench.

With the recent cap announcements I don't think there's anyway we sign three. Two tops, then 1 year vet minimums to fill out the bench.

A second max for 2010 isn't impossible, but its getting real close. If they sign Andy any hope for that is lost and then maybe you consider offering someone like Childress a few years too.
Me too, but unfortunately there's almost no way he comes to Cleveland.

Also, you forgot to add Anthony Parker to the main list. I'd prefer signing Frye and either Childress, Kleiza, or Parker. The problem is Childress and Kleiza are both RFAs, so it might be tough to get them from their teams without overpaying.
TheOUTLAW
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 41,920
And1: 2,757
Joined: Aug 23, 2002
     

Re: Other FA options 

Post#5 » by TheOUTLAW » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:28 pm

I don't really know why the Cavs aren't considering Grant Hill
UncleDrew wrote: I get Buckets!
User avatar
LuDux1
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,699
And1: 4,763
Joined: Mar 22, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#6 » by LuDux1 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:46 pm

Anthony Parker and Linas Kleiza

Shaq, Big Z, Varejao
Varejao, Kleiza, Hickinson
LeBron, Kleiza, Green
West, Parker, Kinsey
Williams, Boobie, West
zygootis
Banned User
Posts: 26
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 02, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#7 » by zygootis » Wed Jul 8, 2009 6:50 pm

kleiza would be top in my opinion for you guys, nuggets fan here. he's a scoring machine, rebounds, defends at an average level when he's given the opportunity, hustles, and is the bench player the cavs need.

he was behind melo AND smith in denver, but seeing as you cavs barely have any bench scorers, he'd be a great asset.

oh and since they just lowered the cap, and nuggets resigning birdman, resigning kleiza is difficult, since we can offer him 2-3.5mil at most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANCrYokr ... annel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s628k7pKk34&feature=fvw

oh and linas and zydrunas are both lithuanian so chemistry wouldn't be a problem.

get excited...
User avatar
LuDux1
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,699
And1: 4,763
Joined: Mar 22, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#8 » by LuDux1 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 7:42 pm

Lithuanian lobby is strong in this thread :beer:

Interview with Kleiza:
http://www.delfi.lt/news/sport/eurobask ... d=22998497
When asked about Cavs, he said that they are one of the teams interested in him
bcortell
Banned User
Posts: 4,244
And1: 1
Joined: Dec 01, 2007

Re: Other FA options 

Post#9 » by bcortell » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:00 pm

Marvin and Zaza should be taken off the list..

But I would really like Childress and Frye.

Mo/ West/Boobie
Childress/ West/Green/Paul Harris
Bron/Childress/Green
Frye/AV/DJ/JJ
Shaq/Z/AV
RevMan26
Pro Prospect
Posts: 935
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 26, 2001
Location: Ohio

Re: Other FA options 

Post#10 » by RevMan26 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:22 pm

Josh Childress, Marquis Daniels or Marvin Williams. I want one of those 3.

Also one of the following would be a good pick up for the back up 4 spot.Frye, Powe, or Glen Davis.
zygootis
Banned User
Posts: 26
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 02, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#11 » by zygootis » Wed Jul 8, 2009 8:23 pm

bcortell wrote:Marvin and Zaza should be taken off the list..

But I would really like Childress and Frye.

Mo/ West/Boobie
Childress/ West/Green/Paul Harris
Bron/Childress/Green
Frye/AV/DJ/JJ
Shaq/Z/AV

childress is a longgg longgg shot.. unless you guys want to sign him for 7mil or more, he's not going anywhere..

last year they signed him for 3 year, $20 million deal so he'd have to buy out using his own money.

besides that, he has tons of perks like, doesn't have to pay taxes, house by the beach, maids, butlers, chefs, and they're all paid for.
Pula_86
Junior
Posts: 418
And1: 0
Joined: Mar 06, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#12 » by Pula_86 » Wed Jul 8, 2009 11:09 pm

I disagree with Childress. The Hawks would be unlikely to match the mid-level exception. They are already over the cap after signing Bibby. Now they will be even more so with ZaZa resigning and Marvin still to resign. Any interest by the Hawks in resigning Childress is posturing. The Cavs IMO have to add a scoring PF or at least upgrade over Varejao and find a way to get a wing player as well.

At the very least, I would hope the Cavs would sign Channing Frye for the BAE, sign Leon Powe for half the MLE and sign Matt Barnes for half the MLE. It wouldn't be the greatest off-season, but it would certainly upgrade the bench. Also, the Cavs would still have Big Z as an expiring contract they could trade as the season goes on. A slow start by a team may open up players that are not now available.

PG Delonte West/Daniel Gibson
SG Mo Williams/Danny Green
SF Lebron James/Matt Barnes
PF Leon Powe/Channing Frye/JJ Hickson
C Shaq O'Neal/Big Z
User avatar
InBoobieWeTrust
General Manager
Posts: 8,208
And1: 0
Joined: Dec 11, 2008

Re: Other FA options 

Post#13 » by InBoobieWeTrust » Wed Jul 8, 2009 11:48 pm

Cavs will probably have at least two players signed by the end of the week.


http://twitter.com/PDcavsinsider
(Windy)

From his interview on WKNR today, looks like the Cavs are officially zeroing in on re-upping Varejao and signing Anthony Parker. After that, it looks like Linas Kleiza and Channing Frye will be two guys the Cavs go after and they will ultimately (hopefully) land one of them. Joe Smith could also be an option.

After all of that, I'm sure Danny Green will be signed, then from what they see in summer league...they'll make a decision on Eyenga(overseas or D-League), they're going to try and get Hickson re-habbed and get him into a big-man camp sometime in August.

They'll listen to trade possibilities, but they likely won't make a trade (since it would likely involve Z's contract) until the deadline, and only if the right deal/situation comes around.

In the meanwhile, Mike Brown will decide who's going to take Kue's spot on the bench, and we'll be ready to start the season
User avatar
Benedict_Boozer
RealGM
Posts: 17,115
And1: 5,817
Joined: Aug 08, 2004

Re: Other FA options 

Post#14 » by Benedict_Boozer » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:03 am

^Can't say I"m too pleased with that. Really think we needed to address the PF spot but what can you do.

If we can resign Joe, he should be able to start next to Shaq I guess...maybe we will get lucky and JJ or DJ will improve over the summer.
zygootis
Banned User
Posts: 26
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 02, 2009

Re: Other FA options 

Post#15 » by zygootis » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:28 am

Pula_86 wrote:I disagree with Childress. The Hawks would be unlikely to match the mid-level exception. They are already over the cap after signing Bibby. Now they will be even more so with ZaZa resigning and Marvin still to resign. Any interest by the Hawks in resigning Childress is posturing. The Cavs IMO have to add a scoring PF or at least upgrade over Varejao and find a way to get a wing player as well.

At the very least, I would hope the Cavs would sign Channing Frye for the BAE, sign Leon Powe for half the MLE and sign Matt Barnes for half the MLE. It wouldn't be the greatest off-season, but it would certainly upgrade the bench. Also, the Cavs would still have Big Z as an expiring contract they could trade as the season goes on. A slow start by a team may open up players that are not now available.

PG Delonte West/Daniel Gibson
SG Mo Williams/Danny Green
SF Lebron James/Matt Barnes
PF Leon Powe/Channing Frye/JJ Hickson
C Shaq O'Neal/Big Z

the problem i see of signing barnes over kleiza is that barnes is more of a ball handler and closer to a shooting guard instead of power forward, kleiza is the opposite. you guys already have first option as lebron being main ball handler, then mo williams, then delonte west, then boobie gibson.

i thought you needed a strong player. here's an example, during game 2 of western finals, when karl finally decided to put kleiza at the 4 with a smaller lineup at certain points, he racked up 16 pts and 8 rbs in 22 minutes or so 3 of them offensive.. and in my opinion, if kleiza hadn't done that, nuggets would of been out in 5 games.

other than that, kleiza is more experienced and has more to bring to the table than barnes, he plays for a 9th seed team is a bit deceiving in my eyes and could fool people a bit on the stat sheet..
TheOUTLAW
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 41,920
And1: 2,757
Joined: Aug 23, 2002
     

Re: Other FA options 

Post#16 » by TheOUTLAW » Thu Jul 9, 2009 12:32 am

If they sign Varejao, Smith and Frye I'd think they did address the PF position pretty thoroughly, in fact maybe a bit too much.
UncleDrew wrote: I get Buckets!
DubaLakers
Banned User
Posts: 3,830
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 02, 2007
Location: OC, CA

Re: Other FA options 

Post#17 » by DubaLakers » Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:45 am

After signing Shaq and now AV wow way too much for sideshow bob 8.3M for the next 5 years?, and then parker, what do they have left for anybody else?
JDaWg1000
Sophomore
Posts: 133
And1: 0
Joined: Feb 14, 2008

Re: Other FA options 

Post#18 » by JDaWg1000 » Thu Jul 9, 2009 4:14 am

its not 8.3 its more around 7 hes contract is actually worth 42.5 thers a new topic here on the board for it

so after Andy and appartnly Parker (with Part of the MLE speculation is 2 mill) i say Frye is the next target, hes one of the few PF that fit what we need and hes unrestricted, all the restricted PFs team will match easily

Return to Cleveland Cavaliers