Boston or Orlando, who will be the tougher team to beat?

[Hilltop]

Thanks for the lame post Hilltop...it's a shame that you can't find many news links to back-up your lame posts. Oh the irony of Tony Montana posting about classy posts. Hilltop, your ideal of articulating is hiding behind a Global mod on the General board with little substance other than repeating the same things about the Magic and your greatest contribution being the use of an emoticon which sums up the substance of your posts a lot of times. The news links are only crummy when they are outside of your perfect world.

I'm sure you thought my post was lame, because again, it flew right over your head. That's fine, it happens all the time

Sorry but not once on any thread have I seen you post a valid argument or your OWN opinion outside of some lame newslink which in discussions like these, are virtually worthless. If you haven't noticed already, people on RealGM are much more intelligent than that. Just look at this thread, Cavaliers fans, Laker fans, and Magic fans have been arguing by articulation, and have been using statistics and historical anecdotes to support their arguments. You're the only guy on RealGM who comes out here with some opinion article and goes "Hey guys, I have a link to some article. This guy gets paid to write so we must believe him, even if it's just an opinion, and even if there are many other articles with different stands. Look at me, I am correct" You're nothing but a parrot to internet articles.

And please, your attempt to chip away at my credibility is equally weak, and pretty pathetic. You're the guy who thinks opinion articles are NBA Dogma, and you're the guy that accused Howard Mass and Tsherkin of attempting to create an all pro-Orlando Magic RealGM wherein all non-Magic fans are censored. It's pretty clear who among us is delusional.

[rjgraca]

Thanks for the lame post Hilltop...it's a shame that you can't find many news links to back-up your lame posts. Oh the irony of Tony Montana posting about classy posts. Hilltop, your ideal of articulating is hiding behind a Global mod on the General board with little substance other than repeating the same things about the Magic and your greatest contribution being the use of an emoticon which sums up the substance of your posts a lot of times. The news links are only crummy when they are outside of your perfect world.

I'm sure you thought my post was lame, because again, it flew right over your head. That's fine, it happens all the time

Sorry but not once on any thread have I seen you post a valid argument or your OWN opinion outside of some lame newslink which in discussions like these, are virtually worthless. If you haven't noticed already, people on RealGM are much more intelligent than that. Just look at this thread, Cavaliers fans, Laker fans, and Magic fans have been arguing by articulation, and have been using statistics and historical anecdotes to support their arguments. You're the only guy on RealGM who comes out here with some opinion article and goes "Hey guys, I have a link to some article. This guy gets paid to write so we must believe him, even if it's just an opinion, and even if there are many other articles with different stands. Look at me, I am correct" You're nothing but a parrot to internet articles.

And please, your attempt to chip away at my credibility is equally weak, and pretty pathetic. You're the guy who thinks opinion articles are NBA Dogma, and you're the guy that accused Howard Mass and Tsherkin of attempting to create an all pro-Orlando Magic RealGM wherein all non-Magic fans are censored. It's pretty clear who among us is delusional.

Your not sorry about anything or hiding behind your hero and your legend in your own mind posts are so impressive. Well, I was posting my own opinion backing them up with news links until your hero started baiting with his own brand of personal attacks and you became emboldened in that you could attack at will and be very environmentally conscious by recycling your opinion and acting as those were fact. Your legend in your own mind status does not give you any credibility and your self adulation will fall on deaf ears along with your hero worship which is almost cult like. Delusional is a very good reference to your posts in which you feel your thoughts are held outside of your small circle of Magic fans that like to parade on the General board making occasional stops on the CAVs board to try to preach to us.

Stan Van Gundy Takes Vince Carter to Task Defensively

It didn't take long for Magic coach Stan Van Gundy to let his new star know that no one is immune from his sometimes-biting, often-surprising critique.

Vince Carter -- the eight-time All-Star -- caught Van Gundy's wrath Wednesday, just the second day of training camp. Often treated with kid gloves during his time in New Jersey, Carter became the example of what not to do late in the morning practice.

"He (Carter) did not play well defensively today. He didn't do a good job out there. He's capable of doing a lot better, and that's what I want to see," Van Gundy said. "As a matter of fact, we'll talk to him about that and show him some (film) clips tomorrow."

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/30/van- ... ensively/#

[Hilltop]

TonyMontana, don't worry. Rjgarcia accuses every poster on RealGM that he has an argument with, of contributing only emoticons to the discussion. Just check the other threads he posts in.

[Hilltop]

Parade? Small Circle? Environmentally friendly? Brand of personal attacks? Hero? Legend? Self adulation will fall on deaf ears? Hero worship which is almost cult-like? Tsherkin and Howard Mass creating a conspiracy on RealGM? Please pass the grass son...

It's a shame you give Cavaliers fans a bad name. But I'm not the type to stereotype. From the ones I've encountered at least, most Cavaliers fans seem to be pretty intelligent. You're just the one bad egg in the bunch I suppose. All I said was that news links aren't the Bible rjgarcia, but instead you replied with a myriad of non-sequiturs, personal attacks, and completely (Please Use More Appropriate Word) conspiracy theories about how this message board is run. But hey, nothing new. You've always been that incompetent. Thanks for derailing yet another topic.

And yes, go ahead with your reply which will probably talk about heroes, legends, parades, fantasies, Oprah Winfrey, Springer, crusaders. They entertain us all.

[rjgraca]

Hilltop, it's such a shame that you are so wrapped up in yourself that you are oblivious to your homerism you cast as fact and the personal attacks that you yourself initiate and don't see that you have to be prepared to take back at least as much as you give. Your personal attacks are lame which is what amuses me so much and I just laugh at your posts. Why are you calling me son when I am probably am at least as old as you are and have at least as much of an education in college--- less your arrogance though.

I never under estimate anyone, but you are definitely making me think that I over estimated you since your arrogance blinds you so much which is what hinders you in being as you term it intelligent which you have not shown in any of your personal attack posts which you believe are sanctioned by your hero (Tsherkin).

I wouldn't be posting on RealGm...if your hero had been right in what he did in the thread where he baited and made what I guess he considered clever personal attacks which I think your arrogance leads you down the same path.

About derailing the topic on the general board, your insistence on personal attacks which encourages your little group is what derailed the topic. You can't be that clueless to think I will be an enabler for you to cover-up your own short comings of launching personal attacks and thinking you have Teflon on--- along with your hero (Tsherkin). So stop with the naive position that somehow you represent a top shelf poster here on RealGm which you are far from and it only make me laugh harder when you share this self-absorbed self righteousness.

You have shown nothing more than your homeristic personal opinion here and on the General Board and personally attack sources sited to back up opposing opinion. I can't believe that you are that naive and clueless to know that when you write you need to site your sources which in the case of posts backs up your opinion---they actually get paid for it which you don't and it shows in your posts. You somehow see your personal attacks (backed only with your opinion) as some kind of competence which is funny , but hardly accurate.

Your posts are funny to read, but that's about it at this time. So just as you did on the General board-- you are trying to hijack the topic on the CAVs board and point the finger elsewhere when you fail. If you want to show what a stud poster you are ...try sticking to the topic then.

[Hilltop]

Teflon? Crusaders? Sanctioned hero? Small circles? Parades? Environmentally friendly? Brands of personal attacks? Legends? Parades? I hate to rain down on your newfound vocabulary, but while I admire your attempt to sound smart, but your grasp of metaphors, hyperbole and the English language in general isn't as sharp as you think it is. Your attempt to sugarcoat your dumb posts with what you seem to think are "smart-sounding" words are hilarious.

Your attempts to chip away at my credibility are equally pathetic. You try to deface me with vague theories. How desperate can you get? Your theories state that I think I am a stud or a "Top-shelf" poster (whatever that means), or that I am working with a global moderator against you. Yeah sure, whatever floats your boat. You like citing sources right? Then go back up those accusations. I dare you. If you don't do that in your next post, then you might as well shut up, because you are beginning to sound like a complete idiot.

And yes rjgarcia, scholarly works and research papers need references, in-text citations, and the like. But in case you haven't noticed, this is a message board. Message boards are for discussion, and for fans to share their opinions so no, citing sources in every post is not a minimum requirement. Evidence of course, is always helpful in the process of discourse and during arguments. Evidence would come in the form of statistics, historical anecdotes, established facts.

The problem with you, is that you assume that copy+pasting some opinion column makes your opinion automatically correct, and makes every other opinion nill. You fail to understand that newslinks from bleacherreport and other such sources (whether their writers get paid or not), are not irrefutable. They are opinions just like ours here on RealGM. That said, you cannot pass them off as facts and come out here saying, "I think Team A sucks. This writer who gets paid, thinks they suck too. Therefore, Team A sucks and you are wrong if you do not agree with me".

But hey, this will never end and I've realized that you will never comprehend anything I say. I'm tired arguing with a (Please Use More Appropriate Word). You win. I was wrong rj, newslinks are NBA Dogma. And yes, Howard Mass and tsherkin are are plotting to control RealGM. My apologies

[rjgraca]

Teflon? Crusaders? Sanctioned hero? Small circles? Parades? Environmentally friendly? Brands of personal attacks? Legends? Parades? I hate to rain down on your newfound vocabulary, but while I admire your attempt to sound smart, but your grasp of metaphors, hyperbole and the English language in general isn't as sharp as you think it is. Your attempt to sugarcoat your dumb posts with what you seem to think are "smart-sounding" words are hilarious.

Your attempts to chip away at my credibility are equally pathetic. You try to deface me with vague theories. How desperate can you get? Your theories state that I think I am a stud or a "Top-shelf" poster (whatever that means), or that I am working with a global moderator against you. Yeah sure, whatever floats your boat. You like citing sources right? Then go back up those accusations. I dare you. If you don't do that in your next post, then you might as well shut up, because you are beginning to sound like a complete idiot.

And yes rjgarcia, scholarly works and research papers need references, in-text citations, and the like. But in case you haven't noticed, this is a message board. Message boards are for discussion, and for fans to share their opinions so no, citing sources in every post is not a minimum requirement. Evidence of course, is always helpful in the process of discourse and during arguments. Evidence would come in the form of statistics, historical anecdotes, established facts.

The problem with you, is that you assume that copy+pasting some opinion column makes your opinion automatically correct, and makes every other opinion nill. You fail to understand that newslinks from bleacherreport and other such sources (whether their writers get paid or not), are not irrefutable. They are opinions just like ours here on RealGM. That said, you cannot pass them off as facts and come out here saying, "I think Team A sucks. This writer who gets paid, thinks they suck too. Therefore, Team A sucks and you are wrong if you do not agree with me".

But hey, this will never end and I've realized that you will never comprehend anything I say. I'm tired arguing with a (Please Use More Appropriate Word). You win. I was wrong rj, newslinks are NBA Dogma. And yes, Howard Mass and tsherkin are are plotting to control RealGM. My apologies

Your so arrogant and blind with your self adulation of your self...I know that I have over estimated you and your little world. You talk about hyperbole (when you can spell it right) and you are the one of the biggest abusers of hyperbolic posts like this one. You know when someone is holding a weak hand when they try to be an English teacher instead of offering significant input or evidence for that matter and have a problem staying on topic too.

It doesn't take much to chip away at your credibility...because it virtually doesn't exist on RealGm and only your legend in your own mind status makes you think that you are more credible than you are . I am glad you talk about scholarly work since your posts are often times lack substance (like your previous one in this thread) and yes this is a message board where even you have NO crediblity unless you can site sources to back-up your homeristic opinions and hiding behind personal attacks to cover-up your short-comings do include lame posts with your favorite emoticon which again sums up the quality of your post. You don't establish facts or present evidence which is so funny in your hypocritical reply of your post other than your opinion and complain when someone else can.

The problem with you is that you assume that your opinion rules and it doesn't and you just go into automatic attack mode to turn away more significant published opinions than you seem destined to offer other than once again being environmentally friendly in recycling your personal attack posts since you don't have anything other to offer evidenced by your posts in this thread. Making personal atacks doesn't change the tide of published reports which often time greatly differ from your limited view and personal opinions.

Yes, often times you only answer with one or two sentence replies that don't qualify as great insight either on the CAVs board or any other board on RealGM.

I accept your apology for trying to come and preach here on the CAVs board and introduce your Cult like worship of your heros to the unknowing masses, but like the a Jehovah Witness coming to your door---your schtick is getting old and not welcome.

Try some new material and staying on topic---preach to us about the Magic dominance this coming season as only you can spin with your semi-fictional stories.

[Canomad]

orlando will be tougher to beat i still think we might have some matchup problems with them this year. the reason i say orlando instead of boston is because of that video of the celtics practice. if you watch that you can clearly see that KG is limping around pretty bad. without a healthy KG the celtics cant win a title.

[NEM]

orlando will be tougher to beat i still think we might have some matchup problems with them this year. the reason i say orlando instead of boston is because of that video of the celtics practice. if you watch that you can clearly see that KG is limping around pretty bad. without a healthy KG the celtics cant win a playoff series.

fixed

[Hilltop]

orlando will be tougher to beat i still think we might have some matchup problems with them this year. the reason i say orlando instead of boston is because of that video of the celtics practice. if you watch that you can clearly see that KG is limping around pretty bad. without a healthy KG the celtics cant win a title.

I heard talk on the Celtics board that they might play him less than 30 minutes this time around to get him rested and fully healed for the Playoffs. He looked almost as bad as Grant Hill after those not so successful ankle surgeries. Maybe even like Amare right before he re-injured himself.

EDIT: Garnett looked much better in the streamed scrimmage video.

[TonyMontana]

TonyMontana, don't worry. Rjgarcia accuses every poster on RealGM that he has an argument with, of contributing only emoticons to the discussion. Just check the other threads he posts in.

Brah.............. His opinion means JACK to me. I have been bored of his posts and his outcry to the public and this board a long time ago. Specially when all he has in his english vocabulary is KOBE, RAPE, CONSPIRACY and EMOTICONS............. Nothing else.

by the way Rj

[TMACDJD]

Its obviously Orlando but they wont be as tough of a matchup as last year for us.

Your kidding right?

The Magic have improved this off season. BIG TIME, VC better then Hedo. Addition of Brandon Bass is major added strength. J Will, Matt Barnes, these are all guys who will only help the Magic get that one step further.