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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#21 » by TonyMontana » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:33 pm

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heathmalc wrote:
However...now that I know you feel that way, I think you should re-evaluate your process of ranking players.

No problem.
Also LOLL really, let me think about it but until then I dont want to derail this thread and get blamed for it. So we'll keep this for the next Lebron vs ? thread. Coool.

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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#22 » by LBJFan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:46 pm

TonyMontana wrote:
TonyMontana wrote:
heathmalc wrote:
However...now that I know you feel that way, I think you should re-evaluate your process of ranking players.

No problem.
Also LOLL really, let me think about it but until then I dont want to derail this thread and get blamed for it. So we'll keep this for the next Lebron vs ? thread. Coool.

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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#23 » by heathmalc » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:30 am

Cavs were outplayed in the EC finals...NOT LeBron!!!!!

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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#24 » by mcfly1204 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:43 pm

So anyway, I do wonder how Gibson would/will perform when he is pressured more. I think confidence is a big factor in the NBA. I am sure a lot of players are great in practice, but then see their performances dip when it is actually time to play, and I do not see this being an issue for Gibson. Look at it this way, he is already a better player than the best shooter in the World, Damon Jones, and amon ones started for a championship team.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#25 » by heathmalc » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:51 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:So anyway, I do wonder how Gibson would/will perform when he is pressured more. I think confidence is a big factor in the NBA. I am sure a lot of players are great in practice, but then see their performances dip when it is actually time to play, and I do not see this being an issue for Gibson. Look at it this way, he is already a better player than the best shooter in the World, Damon Jones, and amon ones started for a championship team.


Ironically, Gibson is compared to his idol a lot, in the skill-department; his idol being Chauncey Billups.
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Post#26 » by JonFromVA » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:17 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:Look at it this way, he is already a better player than the best shooter in the World, Damon Jones, and amon ones started for a championship team.


As a defender? Absolutely. But when Damon's team won that championship he led the league in TS%, and eFG%. Gibson has a higher 3pt% right now, but Damon was sinking 4 of them per game .vs. Dan's 1.5.

Gibson is averaging just 1.1 apg right now, and just 2.0 per 36; while Damon was at 4.3 apg, and 4.9 per 36. Damon's career high was 5.8 apg for Milwaukee. Of course we turned Damon in to a 1-dimensional player in Cleveland and didn't ask him to initiate the offense, so his assist numbers dropped way down as well.

If Gibson was starting and trusted to actually initiate offense, he might very well exceed those numbers. In fact much of his struggles last year were due to not being on the court at the same time as LeBron. And this year, he's rarely been on the court at the same time as both Shaq and LeBron.

Unfortunately, it's just a big question mark, and IMO Gibson needs to take advantage of his time with the second unit to prove and improve his playmaking skills. When Gibson first got a chance to start, and E Snow went to the bench, the second unit started actually executing plays and played pretty well; so an effective play maker should be able to make a difference with the backups.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#27 » by mcfly1204 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:29 pm

The issue there is that the bulk of his minutes have come with Mo or West on the floor. I think it will take an injury or suspension to see Gibson put in a distributor's role.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#28 » by JonFromVA » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:49 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:The issue there is that the bulk of his minutes have come with Mo or West on the floor. I think it will take an injury or suspension to see Gibson put in a distributor's role.


Unfortunately, that's been for a reason. West has been out of the lineup often this season, and he was starting last year. If we could have just let Gibson run the second unit while Mo/West/LeBron all rested, we would have done so.

So he has opportunities, especially with the second unit, but he just has to build on them, rather than just playing as a SG. We have an offensive system where at its best the playmaking duties are shared between 3 players on the court at the same time. Gibson needs to assert himself and take control of his side of that triangle.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#29 » by heathmalc » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:56 pm

decision-making....Gib's #1 weakness.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#30 » by Gamer_4_life » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:55 pm

Gibson has played in 58 games, starting 26, averaging 10.4 points, 2.5 assists and 2.3 rebounds per game.
He scored a season high 26 points on November 20, 2007 against the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Post#31 » by InBoobieWeTrust » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:30 am

I'm not as concerned about the assist rate as some of you, I never expected Gibson to have a good assist rate.

I think Boobie's future in this league is as a combo-guard off the bench who simply puts the ball in the basket multiple ways and does it well. Think Flip Murray...a Poor Man's Jason Terry....something to that effect.
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Post#32 » by TheOUTLAW » Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:07 pm

I agree, while historically decision making has been an issue for Gibson I really haven't seen that this year at all.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#33 » by JonFromVA » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:11 pm

InBoobieWeTrust wrote:I'm not as concerned about the assist rate as some of you, I never expected Gibson to have a good assist rate.


I'm not concerned about him ... period. He contributes to the team, compliments LeBron, and he's improving; it's just that he still has a long way to go as a PG and a play-maker. It may never click, but I always expected it to take multiple years and that was before he kept hurting his toe.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#34 » by mcfly1204 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:24 pm

I'm hoping for a Billups-espue career, although Chauncy was given a lot more PT in his early years. It took him 7 seasons to become the player he is now.
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Re: Daniel Gibson 

Post#35 » by JonFromVA » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:10 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:I'm hoping for a Billups-espue career, although Chauncy was given a lot more PT in his early years. It took him 7 seasons to become the player he is now.


That'd be wonderful, but Billups still showed a lot more PG skills when he was younger. I'm still hoping for BJ Armstrong. ;)

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