Ferry is a god

[mcfly1204]

Easy to make just about any team or player look good when 'Bron is on your team. If/when he bolts to NY with another major player, it's game over for the Cavs and any other team in the East for the next 6-8 years. THAT'S when Ferry will earn his money......

Yeah, it was pretty easy for him to put together a championship caliber team prior to 2008...

[tyguy]

We really didnt even give up either Joe Smith or Z either as both (assuming in Z's case) returned to the Cavs after the trades.

He's made some other killer moves in his time here:
-Lee Nailon for a second round pick that turned into Boobie Gibson
-Tony Battie for Drew Gooden and Anderson Varejao
-All of the contracts he has signed people to have been team friendly (yes even Varejao's)

This guy kills fools in trades.

It was actually Paxson who traded battie for gooden and andy. This trade should be the mans legacy, other than dumping Kemp when he got fat. This really was an amazing trade by pax. Maybe he does his best work under extreme pressure

[tyguy]

To bad I will always remember Ferry for the Boozer move first.

You also spelled "too" wrong

[RHBullsFan]

he's definitely done a nice job for you guys. You've assembled a great roster. I was very apprehensive about the Shaq trade, but he has more left in the tank that I would have thought.

I always wonder what your roster would look like had you guys kept Boozer. He pretty much blew up the season he left Cleveland.

[TheOUTLAW]

People didn't notice Boozer until he left Cleveland, his game really didn't change at all. I remember arguing with people that Boozer was better than Gooden. If you go back a few years you will see where many posters actually thought Gooden was the better player. All Boozer did when he left Cleveland was get plays run for him and more opportunities.

[BernardKing]

What's funny is that Ferry has pretty much accomplished exactly what Isiah and the Knicks attempted to do. Use their capspace to bring in talent.

Isiah had cap space? Not really. He inherited the league's highest payroll when he took over as Knicks GM during the 2003/04 season.

[TheOUTLAW]

The Cavs didn't have cap space either so I really didn't say that right. But what he did was trade future space for players. Both were attempting to build teams by trading shorter contracts for longer

[BernardKing]

The Cavs didn't have cap space either so I really didn't say that right. But what he did was trade future space for players. Both were attempting to build teams by trading shorter contracts for longer

Cool. Thanks for clarifying.

[NetsForce]

Lets just examine his last few deals, piecemeal then the net in/out:

1) Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown, Cedric Simmons, Donyell Marshall and Ira Newble for Joe Smith, Delonte West, Ben Wallce and Wally

2) Damon Jones & Joe Smith for Mo WIlliams

3) Ben Wallace & Sasha for Shaq

4) Z & first for Jamisnon

Out:
A bunch of trash

In:
Shaquille Oneal
Mo WIlliams
Delonte West
Antwan Jamison

Though it's seemingly worked out in the end you have to remember that the following players got their ridiculous contracts / contracts they never came close to living up to BECAUSE of Ferry:

- Larry Hughes
- Donyell Marshall
- Damon Jones
- Sasha Pavlovic

Basically if you look at Ferry's track record* he has a history of bringing in absolute trash players at idiotic prices, shuffling those same players around for more trash, and then finally getting older big salaried (yet serviceable) players in the end.

It's interesting to say the least.

*http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=&Team=Cavaliers&BeginDate=2005-06-27&EndDate=2010-02-22&PlayerMovementChkBx=yes&submit=Search&start=0

The above website is a good site to use to track basketball transactions

[prekazi]

Well if we believe in monotheism he's certainly not. Because LeBron is the god, clearly.

[Mr Loggins]

Lets just examine his last few deals, piecemeal then the net in/out:

1) Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown, Cedric Simmons, Donyell Marshall and Ira Newble for Joe Smith, Delonte West, Ben Wallce and Wally

2) Damon Jones & Joe Smith for Mo WIlliams

3) Ben Wallace & Sasha for Shaq

4) Z & first for Jamisnon

Out:
A bunch of trash

In:
Shaquille Oneal
Mo WIlliams
Delonte West
Antwan Jamison

Though it's seemingly worked out in the end you have to remember that the following players got their ridiculous contracts / contracts they never came close to living up to BECAUSE of Ferry:

- Larry Hughes
- Donyell Marshall
- Damon Jones
- Sasha Pavlovic

Basically if you look at Ferry's track record* he has a history of bringing in absolute trash players at idiotic prices, shuffling those same players around for more trash, and then finally getting older big salaried (yet serviceable) players in the end.

It's interesting to say the least.

*http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/Search/SearchResults.php?Player=&Team=Cavaliers&BeginDate=2005-06-27&EndDate=2010-02-22&PlayerMovementChkBx=yes&submit=Search&start=0

The above website is a good site to use to track basketball transactions

1) Ferry didn't get Sasha

2) Hughes, Marshall and Jones didn't pan out, but at the time most pundits were lauding the signing. Its easy to forget given how bad he is now, but at one point Hughes was a young 22-6-5 gaurd who was 2nd team defense when we signed him.

[mcfly1204]

Ferry had to sign a top FA with the cap space that he inherited, and unfortunately Larry Bruise was the only player left. I understand why he signed Marshal and Jones, he wanted to surround LeBron with veteran shooters. I think Ferry's worst move was not landing Shaq at the '09 deadline.

[NetsForce]

1) Ferry didn't get Sasha

2) Hughes, Marshall and Jones didn't pan out, but at the time most pundits were lauding the signing. Its easy to forget given how bad he is now, but at one point Hughes was a young 22-6-5 gaurd who was 2nd team defense when we signed him.

1) But he resigned him in 2007.

2) It didn't take a genius to see how bad the Hughes signing was going to be. Even at that point in time Hughes was known as an injury prone chucker. What was even more interesting though was that in that year where he averaged 22 ppg his defense was also below his average as well (he was more concerned with gambling for steals than anything else)... Ferry looked at that 1 year when signing Hughes and inexplicably overlooked the previous 6...

I'll cut Ferry a little bit of slack on the Marshall signing but even there he got suckered by the contract year warrior (again)...

[Dagger Three]

Shannon Brown isn't trash.