At the end of the day, Irving + Burks is who should draft

[Dr Positivity]

If I was the Cavs I'd take one of Kanter, Burks or Montiejunas 4th.

[Kaner]

I may just be delirious, but did a Miami Cheat fan actually come in here and suggest we take the Morris Twins with #1 and #4...I don't even think green font would do that post justice...

[cavsfan58]

They only way we get burks is if we keep Detroits pick if we can get it... Whether we somehow have 1,2,8 or we have 1,4, 8... I think we pick Burks at 8!

[mcfly1204]

Nice read on Burks:

http://www.nbadraft.net/alec-burks-mr-versatility

[Kaner]

I dont mind having Burks, but with the 4th pick? Not too sure about that one.

But if the other BPA's clash with the obvious direction of the rebuild (and once we take Irving first, that becomes our direction, and I still think Kanter would be better at 4, this is just if he is gone at our #4 pick)...I realize our CURRENT direction suggests we take BPA's at both spot, but if this draft supposedly has only one star potential player that ISN'T a question mark as far as position goes....

Often times when confined to ONE position in the NBA, dominant college tweener players tend to struggle,and seeing as Derrick Williams is good BECAUSE he has aspects of a 3 in a 4s body in college, but he doesn't have a 4s body in the NBA I just don't see him being as good as he and a lot of his fans think he will be...

That all being said, when you take a player that is very special at a particular position (especially floor general), and will make everyone around him better...you immediately start acquiring players that will thrive next to him, and Burks is not only a player with a lot of upside and legit size,wingspan, athleticism and scoring at a position that has an overall low level of talent in the NBA but he may be the BPA as far as picking Irvings compliment... We should not and cannot draft a center just for the sake of trying to "secure our center of the future with a high pick"...it rarely ever works that way unless it is an unquestionably dominant center...and even then look at Greg Oden. By now i'm sure you realize I'm talking about Jonas.

As for other wings, they are all SF's this year aside from Marshon Brooks, who would never in a million years go top 5. If we do manage to move up to 2, grab Kanter and stiil get a mid/late 1st and get Marshon Brooks it would be the best thing to happen to us. And than I REAAAALLLLLY want to wait to get our stud SF in 2012 (Harrison Barnes!) I think regardless of everyones personal preference, everyone can agree starting a core of either A) Irving-Burks-Barnes-Hickson-AV/Draft or B) Irving-Eyenga-Barnes-Hickson-Kanter looks a lot better than we thought we would be after just two drafts

OR of course if my dream scenario plays out and we somehow get #2, and a mid first, and get Barnes next year, we could move forward with Irving-Brooks-Barnes-Hickson-Kanter withB Diddy,Eyenga,Varejao,Samuels and our second rounders off the bench ok i need to slow down, it will be too sad if it doesn't go down haha

[Roger Murdock]

The more I see on Burks the more I'm starting to like him on our team. Hes one of the safest picks in the draft, and I think hes got a pretty good chance of being an all star. Plus pairing him with a guy like Irving works because Irving shoots so damn well that it makes up for Burks lack of three range, until he develops that aspect of his game.

[Rise Against]

I guess that I am rather convinced. Apparently Burks can go anywhere from #4-12. However, if Kanter is available at #4, the Cavs should select him instead (unless DWill is there, but that is a long shot). Of course, assuming that Kanter is still there.

[Baseline Runner]

If Burks was such a sure-fire future all-star, he would be a top 3 pick and not be in the same discussion with players like Knight and Kemba. But his draft stock is not that high because he simply isn't that good. Sure he is athletic and is good at slashing and scoring inside, but the guard positions are more about skills than athleticism, and I just don't see the handling, passing and shooting skills to be a good NBA starter much less an all-star. I could be wrong but I'd bet Jimmer will have the better career than Burks.

[mcfly1204]

Isn't Burks known for his dribbling and passing abilities?

[Kaner]

Isn't Burks known for his dribbling and passing abilities?

Yes he's been said to have PG skills in a SG body... he has all the mechanics needed IMO to develop a nice three point shot too, and has the length and height to be a solid defender. I'll be honest there is not a whole lot of skilled 2 guards on the horizon as far as the next couple of drafts go. I mean you have Bradley Beal, Austin Rivers, Jeremy Lamb (who I would love too, but not in 2012), and Shebazz Mohammed (2013)...the first two are 6'3 and 6'4, Lamb is a less than exceptional player in whats thought to be an exceptional draft, and Mohammed will be a High School senior next year...as for SF's , we will likely have our choice next year of what style of SF we want next to Irving, all of which are better than Derrick Williams IMO because they are pure wings, not tweeners. If I'm rebuilding this team, I don't even think of taking a forward just because that our teams biggest need...

I've said it before and I'll say it a million more times, just because Burks isn't the BPA OVERALL at #4 does NOT mean he is not the BPA to pair with Irving at #4!!! And like I said, once we take Irving at 1, THAT becomes our teams direction...not picks 1 AND 4... 4 needs to COMPLIMENT 1, whether it be Burks or Kanter.

[S.W.A.N]

I used to think it was a lock that you guys would pick irving and a big...

The more I think of Irving Burks the more I like it. Its a very safe pick, he has a tonne of upside but of the players available at 4 he probably has the lowest floor. Which is important to consider...

[zol2332]

I do like Burks, but let's get real here....he's Mickael Pietrus. But he also is scrawny and a below par defender. I believe that Kanter is going to be a force. I also like Irving. To me, Derrick Williams is a tweener that lacks a true position. I would love Irving at 1, Kanter at 4, and a guy like David Lighty (6'6) or Scotty Hopson (6'7) in the second round. Hopson is a scorer, and David Lighty is an athletically gifted defender who shot 43% from downtown his senior year. He was put in an offense with limited touches, and he managed to be an effective scorer in that role while playing excellent defense...his exact role in the NBA.

[Kaner]

I do like Burks, but let's get real here....he's Mickael Pietrus. But he also is scrawny and a below par defender. I believe that Kanter is going to be a force. I also like Irving. To me, Derrick Williams is a tweener that lacks a true position. I would love Irving at 1, Kanter at 4, and a guy like David Lighty (6'6) or Scotty Hopson (6'7) in the second round. Hopson is a scorer, and David Lighty is an athletically gifted defender who shot 43% from downtown his senior year. He was put in an offense with limited touches, and he managed to be an effective scorer in that role while playing excellent defense...his exact role in the NBA.

He is not Pietrus at all...he doesn't have a good outside shot, he can put the ball on the floor very well, and he played more of a 1/2 game in college than a 2/3... I don't see him being like Pietrus at all.

[B Mac]

I wonder how Burks' seperated shoulder this weekend will effect his status...

[mcfly1204]

I wonder how Burks' seperated shoulder this weekend will effect his status...

I wish it was just a separated shoulder, reports are saying that he dislocated it.

[tidho]

He's sort of the anti-Pietrus, lol.

Burks' defense is average and he's a very good but notelite athlete. His outside shot is unreliable but he has good handle and average vision for an NBA shooting guard. He plays like Larry Hughes and his ceiling is probably Ron Harper.

That's good enough for consideration at #4. I wouldn't have a problem with the selection. I don't know if you can declare him a safer pick than anyone that's ever played in Europe, but you have to figure even if he busts he'll get playing time.