MrBigShot wrote:I think us passing on Felder was a mistake, I see him becoming a legitimate rotation player for you guys at some point.

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MrBigShot wrote:I think us passing on Felder was a mistake, I see him becoming a legitimate rotation player for you guys at some point.
jrob23 wrote:every team is going to be kicking themselves for passing on him. He's Isaiah Thomas 2.0. He's an upgrade over Delly and damnit why didn't Danny Ainge draft him instead of all those scrubs he took after Jaylen Brown. He really is among the worst G.M. on draft day. Ughh
Meanwhile the rich get richer with McRae and Felder along with other veteran acquisitions. Your team is even better than last season and should be favorites to win it all. I'm not buying the Warriors hype though they should be in finals too
yoyoboy wrote:jrob23 wrote:every team is going to be kicking themselves for passing on him. He's Isaiah Thomas 2.0. He's an upgrade over Delly and damnit why didn't Danny Ainge draft him instead of all those scrubs he took after Jaylen Brown. He really is among the worst G.M. on draft day. Ughh
Meanwhile the rich get richer with McRae and Felder along with other veteran acquisitions. Your team is even better than last season and should be favorites to win it all. I'm not buying the Warriors hype though they should be in finals too
Glad to see your optimism for our situation, man, but I can't see him becoming better than Delly, just because his defense will always be a problem, so in order to compensate for the significant advantage Delly has on that end, he would have to be a clearly superior offensive player. And considering Delly is a better 3-point shooter and facilitator (regardless of Felder's collegiate assist numbers I haven't seen anything from him thus far that suggests he'll be anything special as a playmaker on this level), I just don't envision that happening.
Last year, Delly posted a 37th in the league ranked +2.25 RAPM (NPI). +1.45 O and +0.79 D. So with Felder playing the same backup PG role, assuming he's around the -1.50 D territory (slightly worse than Kyrie and slightly better than Lillard), he would have to put up over a +3.75 O just to best Delly's impact. To give you an idea of how many guys have that kind of offensive impact, the NPI list last year included just Westbrook, Durant, Curry, LeBron, and Draymond... That's it.
So while I love what Felder can potentially provide and I'm excited to watch the guy play, I'm keeping my expectations relatively low because I highly doubt he'll match - much less exceed - what Delly did for this team last year. There's a reason he got paid $10 mil/yr and is currently prepping for a starting role on the Bucks.
blazeyo wrote:yoyoboy wrote:jrob23 wrote:every team is going to be kicking themselves for passing on him. He's Isaiah Thomas 2.0. He's an upgrade over Delly and damnit why didn't Danny Ainge draft him instead of all those scrubs he took after Jaylen Brown. He really is among the worst G.M. on draft day. Ughh
Meanwhile the rich get richer with McRae and Felder along with other veteran acquisitions. Your team is even better than last season and should be favorites to win it all. I'm not buying the Warriors hype though they should be in finals too
Glad to see your optimism for our situation, man, but I can't see him becoming better than Delly, just because his defense will always be a problem, so in order to compensate for the significant advantage Delly has on that end, he would have to be a clearly superior offensive player. And considering Delly is a better 3-point shooter and facilitator (regardless of Felder's collegiate assist numbers I haven't seen anything from him thus far that suggests he'll be anything special as a playmaker on this level), I just don't envision that happening.
Last year, Delly posted a 37th in the league ranked +2.25 RAPM (NPI). +1.45 O and +0.79 D. So with Felder playing the same backup PG role, assuming he's around the -1.50 D territory (slightly worse than Kyrie and slightly better than Lillard), he would have to put up over a +3.75 O just to best Delly's impact. To give you an idea of how many guys have that kind of offensive impact, the NPI list last year included just Westbrook, Durant, Curry, LeBron, and Draymond... That's it.
So while I love what Felder can potentially provide and I'm excited to watch the guy play, I'm keeping my expectations relatively low because I highly doubt he'll match - much less exceed - what Delly did for this team last year. There's a reason he got paid $10 mil/yr and is currently prepping for a starting role on the Bucks.
Should have traded shumpert and kept Delly.
Even a lineup of Felder as PG and Delly as a SG is intriguing..
yoyoboy wrote:blazeyo wrote:yoyoboy wrote:Glad to see your optimism for our situation, man, but I can't see him becoming better than Delly, just because his defense will always be a problem, so in order to compensate for the significant advantage Delly has on that end, he would have to be a clearly superior offensive player. And considering Delly is a better 3-point shooter and facilitator (regardless of Felder's collegiate assist numbers I haven't seen anything from him thus far that suggests he'll be anything special as a playmaker on this level), I just don't envision that happening.
Last year, Delly posted a 37th in the league ranked +2.25 RAPM (NPI). +1.45 O and +0.79 D. So with Felder playing the same backup PG role, assuming he's around the -1.50 D territory (slightly worse than Kyrie and slightly better than Lillard), he would have to put up over a +3.75 O just to best Delly's impact. To give you an idea of how many guys have that kind of offensive impact, the NPI list last year included just Westbrook, Durant, Curry, LeBron, and Draymond... That's it.
So while I love what Felder can potentially provide and I'm excited to watch the guy play, I'm keeping my expectations relatively low because I highly doubt he'll match - much less exceed - what Delly did for this team last year. There's a reason he got paid $10 mil/yr and is currently prepping for a starting role on the Bucks.
Should have traded shumpert and kept Delly.
Even a lineup of Felder as PG and Delly as a SG is intriguing..
Honestly, I just wish LeBron took less money... You would think he could sacrifice a few million per year, considering the billion dollar lifetime Nike deal he signed. He's gotta be more concerned with his legacy at this point than getting a little bit richer (relatively), and keeping Delly gives the Cavs a better chance at winning another championship, which would obviously bolster LeBron's legacy a ton.
bwgood77 wrote:This depth chart's not right is it?
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/depth-charts
I know obviously it isn't for LeBron and Love, but for Felder?