Game 10: Atlanta Hawks (1-8) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (4-5) - 3:00 PM ET

[jbk1234]

Lue has to manage LBJ's minutes. This is ridiculous.

[jbk1234]

I don't get having no big man on the floor when they've got Dedman or Collins out there. They'll just feast.

[Stillwater]

Well another loss against a bottom dweller is still a win for the Nets pick value motivation again a major factor against non playoff teams

[tundraknight]

Maybe the Cavaliers master plan is to purposely lose to lottery teams and only beat playoff teams to help the Nets have the worst record in the NBA.

Then get into the playoffs as an 8th seed and cakewalk to the Finals. While looking at the #1 and #15 picks in the 2018 Draft.

My entire post was sarcasm btw in case you couldn’t figure it out..

[Stillwater]

Maybe the Cavaliers master plan is to purposely lose to lottery teams and only beat playoff teams to help the Nets have the worst record in the NBA.

Then get into the playoffs as an 8th seed and cakewalk to the Finals. While looking at the #1 and #15 picks in the 2018 Draft.

My entire post was sarcasm btw in case you couldn’t figure it out..

Yeah no way it's a plan , but the lack of motivation against lottery projected teams has become an obvious trend with this team.

[afarmenian]

never mind on Zizic he looked lost out there

[Stillwater]

never mind on Zizic he looked lost out there

He'll be fine clearly not used to playing on a team that is playing poor defense so yeah I'd say that's messing him up, we need his energy but if every time he commits a ticky-tack foul Lue pulls him out of the game he's unlikely to ever have much impact.
The age of this team it's going to continue to be a detriment until the Euros are immediately put in the game when someone is not doing their job or is not motivated defensively. Shooting 27% or whatever it was compared to 45 from 3 doesn't help either.
If we were winning games against teams were expected to beat I could understand not playing the Euros that often given but that would mean we were playing better defense and with more energy .Right now LeBron's history of not having rookies getting much playing time and the fact that Lue favors the vets is going to create a wall among players on this roster if it hasn't already.
I've never seen a team as loaded as this one have so much trouble getting up for a game it only seems to happen against eastern contenders.
So I expect we will beat the Bucks

[CaptainCanada]

never mind on Zizic he looked lost out there

He'll be fine clearly not used to playing on a team that is playing poor defense so yeah I'd say that's messing him up, we need his energy but if every time he commits a ticky-tack foul Lue pulls him out of the game he's unlikely to ever have much impact.
The age of this team it's going to continue to be a detriment until the Euros are immediately put in the game when someone is not doing their job or is not motivated defensively. Shooting 27% or whatever it was compared to 45 from 3 doesn't help either.
If we were winning games against teams were expected to beat I could understand not playing the Euros that often given but that would mean we were playing better defense and with more energy .Right now LeBron's history of not having rookies getting much playing time and the fact that Lue favors the vets is going to create a wall among players on this roster if it hasn't already.
I've never seen a team as loaded as this one have so much trouble getting up for a game it only seems to happen against eastern contenders.
So I expect we will beat the Bucks

How bad would the Cav's be if Wade, Derrick Rose, Green & other free agents didn't flock to join Lebron in Cleveland? I really thought the acquisition of Crowder would help the Cav's alot....has he not played well? (I've only seen a few Cav's games this season)

[jbk1234]

never mind on Zizic he looked lost out there

He'll be fine clearly not used to playing on a team that is playing poor defense so yeah I'd say that's messing him up, we need his energy but if every time he commits a ticky-tack foul Lue pulls him out of the game he's unlikely to ever have much impact.
The age of this team it's going to continue to be a detriment until the Euros are immediately put in the game when someone is not doing their job or is not motivated defensively. Shooting 27% or whatever it was compared to 45 from 3 doesn't help either.
If we were winning games against teams were expected to beat I could understand not playing the Euros that often given but that would mean we were playing better defense and with more energy .Right now LeBron's history of not having rookies getting much playing time and the fact that Lue favors the vets is going to create a wall among players on this roster if it hasn't already.
I've never seen a team as loaded as this one have so much trouble getting up for a game it only seems to happen against eastern contenders.
So I expect we will beat the Bucks

How bad would the Cav's be if Wade, Derrick Rose, Green & other free agents didn't flock to join Lebron in Cleveland? I really thought the acquisition of Crowder would help the Cav's alot....has he not played well? (I've only seen a few Cav's games this season)

You can have Love at the 5 or Crowder at the 4, but you can't have both. It's dumb. Especially night in and night out against every line up. I mean the Warriors don't even start their small ball line up with Green at center.

[bb22]

This team is still looking for an identity. People will probably disagree with me, but we should really try to move Love (while his stock is still somewhat high). He hasn't shown the ability to be a consistent second option on this team next to Lebron. Whether that is Lue's, Lebron's, or Love's fault is up for debate. We have the players to be a solid defensive team, even though we have been atrocious thus far. I would go in that direction. Try to move Love for some young versatile player(s).

[afarmenian]

This team is still looking for an identity. People will probably disagree with me, but we should really try to move Love (while his stock is still somewhat high).

Agree and disagree, i really think we should have moved love but right now i would bet that his stock could not be any lower. Its too late now.

[jbk1234]

This team is still looking for an identity. People will probably disagree with me, but we should really try to move Love (while his stock is still somewhat high).

Agree and disagree, i really think we should have moved love but right now i would bet that his stock could not be any lower. Its too late now.

32 & 16 tonight. But if you trade him, just go ahead & back LBJ's bags.

[bb22]

This team is still looking for an identity. People will probably disagree with me, but we should really try to move Love (while his stock is still somewhat high).

Agree and disagree, i really think we should have moved love but right now i would bet that his stock could not be any lower. Its too late now.

32 & 16 tonight. But if you trade him, just go ahead & back LBJ's bags.

Haha he really shut me up.
I'm still sticking with what I said though. These games by Love are few and far between, and his defensive presence is still abysmal. Hope he can prove me wrong, but this 3 year sample size is just too much for me to change my mind.

[afarmenian]

This team is still looking for an identity. People will probably disagree with me, but we should really try to move Love (while his stock is still somewhat high).

Agree and disagree, i really think we should have moved love but right now i would bet that his stock could not be any lower. Its too late now.

32 & 16 tonight. But if you trade him, just go ahead & back LBJ's bags.

Which is why i said you can't trade him now because you're not going to get equal value but if they could have they should have traded him. And forget about the talent I'm more worried about him getting hurt and Lasting the entire year because it seems like he's always going down with some kind of ding