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Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting.

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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#21 » by Stillwater » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:07 pm

Topofthekey wrote:I've maintained that Isaiah Thomas is way overrated. Playing on Celtics under Brad Stevens severely inflated his value in a lot of people's eyes.

And now with him taking the lead in calling out Kevin Love, presumably trying to deflect blame away from himself, he looks like an extremely selfish person and locker room cancer as well.

At this point you really have to admire what the Celtics managed to pull off. Not only did they manage to land a great player in Kyrie, they took a pile of dung, dressed it up in gold dust, and traded it away as if it was actual gold. Same can be said of Jae Crowder, just to a lesser extent. Crowder is a solid role player, but Celtics made him look like a borderline star.

Not sure how Cavaliers get out of this mess. At this rate nobody wants IT, and starting him at PG is obviously doing the team more harm than good. I suppose Cavaliers should just trade him for whatever little value they can get and just cut their losses before the entire season gets derailed, if it hasn't already been

IT3 "was" overated because he was the 1st option scorer on a team that bought into letting him be that guy. If he was healthy and still in Boston I think they would have been worse this year after last year's exit in $ time where IT's defense or lack thereof could not be as effectively hidden.
I don't "credit" Stevens,he did what any coach would do with the only dynamic scorer on the roster.
That being said the Cavs front office probably overvalued him.
He is not nor can he become when healthy the 1st option here.
The fact we we're having success offensively enough to win games with Love at the 5 solidified Love staying there and requires getting a board crashing 4 that has some form of a jumper unlike Thompson. Getting a rim protector to play the 5 could be a solution but no longer gives us a legit all-star at that position to battle against small ball .
Crowder needs to go,I don't like him on this roster in any capacity esp the pf role.
IT Should be traded,but probably gets nothing back worth trading for,so it depends on how much of a locker room cancer he is if the move is justified.
Smith is so out of rhythm he looks done,but he may very well be a victim of this line up.
Lots of moves need to be made to become a contender ,but at minimum we need a 2 way PG and a younger upside pf to replace Crowder in the sl. Noel would be a decent compromise since he offers little offense same as Thompson,but he is a better ball hawk.
I would also consider trading for Randle if it didn't cost us much despite the contract situation this summer. Frye / 2nd rounder. Whatever.
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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#22 » by SharoneWright » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:56 pm

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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#23 » by Stillwater » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:07 pm

SharoneWright wrote:

yep the one guy that would have IT3's back **** Crowder
What is sad is just how much former rival Celtics players Crowder and IT3 being in Cleveland has created locker room controversy.
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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#24 » by Stillwater » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:17 pm

IT3 came out with explanation he had zero beef with KLove. Just asked him where he went,felt he has known him long enough to pry. Etcetc...
Idk might be trying to save face since seems so irritated about shouldering blame etc.
He's always thrived off of adversity so this is concerning imo as if he's not taking the right path. Only he knows his own body,so hopefully he ain't kidding himself and roping us along in an exhausting attempt at returning to the player he was pre-injury meanwhile knowing he ain't gonna be. I wish him well,imo he's as good as gone even if the optimism is justified.
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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#25 » by Trailbreaker » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:08 am

I knew we were in for trouble at the beginning of the season, but I didn’t expect so much to surface. At this rate, we will be lucky to get to the ECF this season. :(
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Re: Kevin Love was the target of ire during team meeting. 

Post#26 » by Stillwater » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:16 am

Trailbreaker wrote:I knew we were in for trouble at the beginning of the season, but I didn’t expect so much to surface. At this rate, we will be lucky to get to the ECF this season. :(

Nah we're fine
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