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Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET

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Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#2 » by Stillwater » Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:34 pm

Not sure I can watch this team anymore until the deadline is passed, and the likes of Isaiah at minimum is no longer in the starting line up and better yet no longer on the roster. For all the good he did offensively as a first option , he cannot be that here.
Send him somewhere that doesn't have a better 1st option scorer, and upgrade our defense.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#3 » by Stillwater » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:37 am

73 1st half points.
Smith clearly better with this more traditional line up.
Don't see this line up changing other than IT if he continues to struggle with his shot
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#4 » by afarmenian » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:00 am

Lebron with 11 TO, so many careless. He needs to take a long look in the mirror that just cant happen.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#5 » by jbk1234 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:14 pm

Better defensively. But I still think IT has to go.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#6 » by Stillwater » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:22 pm

afarmenian wrote:Lebron with 11 TO, so many careless. He needs to take a long look in the mirror that just cant happen.

Not a big deal half of them were defense getting away with holds and intended recipient was unable to make catch.
The entire team is too late with passes often ,but for the most part LeBron's we're several factors and not bad passes.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#7 » by afarmenian » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:43 pm

Come on brother......11 turnovers? Even if thats true and half werent his fault 5 turnovers is way too much. People dont take turnovers serious enough. You dont get an attempt. You dont get a chance at an offensive rebound and it usually leads to points the other way. Anytime you see 6 7 8 point runs its usually because of turnovers.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#8 » by gflem » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:39 pm

Stillwater wrote:73 1st half points.
Smith clearly better with this more traditional line up.
Don't see this line up changing other than IT if he continues to struggle with his shot

In don't know if Smith is clearly better with traditional lineup, or if he is just done pouting for now. Either way he makes a big difference to the offense when he is hitting his shot and putting forth a professional effort. Turnovers were ridiculous again but the effort looked so much better.
All for moving IT, sooner the better imo, and maybe Crowder too if we can get some kind of decent return for him.
Rose has looked good the last few games, but can he stay healthy enough to make a difference?
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#9 » by Stillwater » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:07 pm

gflem wrote:
Stillwater wrote:73 1st half points.
Smith clearly better with this more traditional line up.
Don't see this line up changing other than IT if he continues to struggle with his shot

In don't know if Smith is clearly better with traditional lineup, or if he is just done pouting for now. Either way he makes a big difference to the offense when he is hitting his shot and putting forth a professional effort. Turnovers were ridiculous again but the effort looked so much better.
All for moving IT, sooner the better imo, and maybe Crowder too if we can get some kind of decent return for him.
Rose has looked good the last few games, but can he stay healthy enough to make a difference?

Idk but Crowder imo was so bad most of the time that it had to negatively impact Smiths rhythm.
You don't go from the worst shooting % of your career to hitting shots like last night for no reason.
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#10 » by afarmenian » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:12 pm

Stillwater wrote:
gflem wrote:
Stillwater wrote:73 1st half points.
Smith clearly better with this more traditional line up.
Don't see this line up changing other than IT if he continues to struggle with his shot

In don't know if Smith is clearly better with traditional lineup, or if he is just done pouting for now. Either way he makes a big difference to the offense when he is hitting his shot and putting forth a professional effort. Turnovers were ridiculous again but the effort looked so much better.
All for moving IT, sooner the better imo, and maybe Crowder too if we can get some kind of decent return for him.
Rose has looked good the last few games, but can he stay healthy enough to make a difference?

Idk but Crowder imo was so bad most of the time that it had to negatively impact Smiths rhythm.
You don't go from the worst shooting % of your career to hitting shots like last night for no reason.



He was almost as bad last year though. There is a lot of evidence to conclude that its simply age catching up to him
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Re: Game 47: Indiana Pacers (26-22) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (27-19) - 7:30 PM ET 

Post#11 » by Stillwater » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:40 pm

afarmenian wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
gflem wrote:In don't know if Smith is clearly better with traditional lineup, or if he is just done pouting for now. Either way he makes a big difference to the offense when he is hitting his shot and putting forth a professional effort. Turnovers were ridiculous again but the effort looked so much better.
All for moving IT, sooner the better imo, and maybe Crowder too if we can get some kind of decent return for him.
Rose has looked good the last few games, but can he stay healthy enough to make a difference?

Idk but Crowder imo was so bad most of the time that it had to negatively impact Smiths rhythm.
You don't go from the worst shooting % of your career to hitting shots like last night for no reason.



He was almost as bad last year though. There is a lot of evidence to conclude that its simply age catching up to him

yeah that's part of it but it's also why I attribute the running around like a chicken with his head cut off trying to cover for weak defense from IT3 Jose or Rose impacting his offense more so than in the past and the bad fit of Crowder at the 4 was causing a lot of Smiths rhythm to be out of character. Now that we have more youth in the back court he won't have to do much besides stay in rhythm and play his game
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