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Post#41 » by jbk1234 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:23 am

Okay. George Hill did re-aggravate his back. So Lue gets a pass as to that.
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Post#42 » by jbk1234 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:24 am

The crazy part about tonight is if you took away the three Hail Mary three point attempts that LBJ and Love made at the very end of the game, the Cavs would've only scored 24 points in the entire second half.
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Post#43 » by Stillwater » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:14 am

Another **** betting scandal
The refs put their dirty fingerprint all over this game from start to finish it just didn't catch up to us until the 3rd. I swear if I didn't understand the way the cash cows run the playoffs I would stop watching this team ,but it's a given anymore that these series of closely ranked teams esp in the 4/5 match ups are the easiest to manipulate for a longer series and a bigger residual.
I don't think most fans want to believe this is real and that in itself is fuel for it continuing.
6 games might be it but 7 makes the most sense now.
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Post#44 » by jbk1234 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:51 pm

Stillwater wrote:Another **** betting scandal
The refs put their dirty fingerprint all over this game from start to finish it just didn't catch up to us until the 3rd. I swear if I didn't understand the way the cash cows run the playoffs I would stop watching this team ,but it's a given anymore that these series of closely ranked teams esp in the 4/5 match ups are the easiest to manipulate for a longer series and a bigger residual.
I don't think most fans want to believe this is real and that in itself is fuel for it continuing.
6 games might be it but 7 makes the most sense now.


I don't think the fix was in or anything. I don't really believe in that. You do see a bias, consciously or otherwise, in favor of the team losing by a large margin. They got away playing very physically on defense in that second half.

The Cavs lost for several reasons: (1) George Hill re-aggravated his back and didn't really play in the second half. He had 13 points on 4/6 shooting in the first half. If he doesn't get and stay healthy, I think we're boned. Calderon and Homeless Kyrie aren't going to get it done against Collison and CoJo.

(2) LBJ stayed on the court despite being too tired to break down Bogs and bailed the Pacers out with bad shots.

(3) The Cavs still don't have non LBJ-centric offensive sets to run. There's no off-the-ball movement with players cutting to the basket on overplays. There was very little in terms of off-the-ball screens. Playing the type of defense the Pacers were playing is exhausting unless you make it easy for them. We made it easy for them. We've had K. Love for four years and watching LBJ pass it to him out at the three-point line like he's a wing who can break down T. Young was infuriating. He's not Kyrie. He's a friggin big man.

(4) Lue didn't make a single in-game adjustment to get some separation between Bogs and LBJ. He's a bad in-game coach.
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Post#45 » by Stillwater » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:17 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Another **** betting scandal
The refs put their dirty fingerprint all over this game from start to finish it just didn't catch up to us until the 3rd. I swear if I didn't understand the way the cash cows run the playoffs I would stop watching this team ,but it's a given anymore that these series of closely ranked teams esp in the 4/5 match ups are the easiest to manipulate for a longer series and a bigger residual.
I don't think most fans want to believe this is real and that in itself is fuel for it continuing.
6 games might be it but 7 makes the most sense now.


I don't think the fix was in or anything. I don't really believe in that. You do see a bias, consciously or otherwise, in favor of the team losing by a large margin. They got away playing very physically on defense in that second half.

The Cavs lost for several reasons: (1) George Hill re-aggravated his back and didn't really play in the second half. He had 13 points on 4/6 shooting in the first half. If he doesn't get and stay healthy, I think we're boned. Calderon and Homeless Kyrie aren't going to get it done against Collison and CoJo.

(2) LBJ stayed on the court despite being too tired to break down Bogs and bailed the Pacers out with bad shots.

(3) The Cavs still don't have non LBJ-centric offensive sets to run. There's no off-the-ball movement with players cutting to the basket on overplays. There was very little in terms of off-the-ball screens. Playing the type of defense the Pacers were playing is exhausting unless you make it easy for them. We made it easy for them. We've had K. Love for four years and watching LBJ pass it to him out at the three-point line like he's a wing who can break down T. Young was infuriating. He's not Kyrie. He's a friggin big man.

(4) Lue didn't make a single in-game adjustment to get some separation between Bogs and LBJ. He's a bad in-game coach.

Hill is questionable for game 4.
The game outcome was definitely manipulated
By the officiating to extend the series,but I agree there are plenty of things we need to do better.
I think Lue is finished if we don't get out of this series and probably is anyway if he is unwilling to utilize Osman at minimum 15 minutes per and to a lesser extent at least give Thompson some grind despite his poor performance this season as he is still a high level rebounder and another big body.
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