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Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#1 » by morricana » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:11 am

I am very disappointed with Sexton's game yesterday. Nothing is appreciated in him except a correct mid-range shot and a lot of desire when defending, but even so Trae Young scored 35 points on his face.
We can comment on his evolution here, what do you think about him and his match yesterday?
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#2 » by tundraknight » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:35 am

I know it sucks that the Nets pick didn’t bottom out as much as we had hoped. One of Doncic, JJJ, Young, or Ayton would’ve been wonderful.

I think Sexton will eventually become an above average starting PG, but Young is much more likely to become an All Star Caliber player imo.

Trae Young’s skillset is absolutely perfect in today’s NBA era.
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Unfortunately I predict Trae Young will be an annual Cavaliers Killer and continue light us up for the forseen future.

Just prepare yourselfs because it’s going to be a looong season.

If we continue to lose often going forward then someone might as well make a “Cavaliers Pick Watch” thread and jump on the Pro Tank Wagon.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#3 » by morricana » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:06 pm

tundraknight wrote:I know it sucks that the Nets pick didn’t bottom out as much as we had hoped. One of Doncic, JJJ, Young, or Ayton would’ve been wonderful.

I think Sexton will eventually become an above average starting PG, but Young is much more likely to become an All Star Caliber player imo.

Trae Young’s skillset is absolutely perfect in today’s NBA era.
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Unfortunately I predict Trae Young will be an annual Cavaliers Killer and continue light us up for the forseen future.

Just prepare yourselfs because it’s going to be a looong season.

If we continue to lose often going forward then someone might as well make a “Cavaliers Pick Watch” thread and jump on the Pro Tank Wagon.



The problem is not how far Collin will go, but when. Maybe I'm drawing conclusions too early after only having seen Sexton yesterday, but it seems that this will be one of those picks that will be remembered in the future, because it looks like Cleveland will be down there a long time.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#4 » by Stillwater » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:22 pm

You can't give Trey young any daylight that does not fall on Collin Sexton in the Cavs current switching schemes. If it had been a one on one matchup (which you could clearly see Sexton wanted ) totally different outcome.
Young is foolsgold that would have gone 1 for 6 had Sexton been given the green light to lock in. Cavs we're so bad defensively which I attribute to still not being up to game shape for this pace ...at least not an entire game ,my kids grade school could have shot them out of the gym.
**** Trey Young ,this alligator arm chucker is the next jimmer and we made him look like steph
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#5 » by Revenged25 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:55 pm

Just curious, how has Sexton's play been? I haven't been able to watch games so far this season and just curious. The box score has looked pretty horrendous, though it has for pretty much everyone outside of Love and Osman that I focused on though I think I saw Hood with some good games, so it was causing some concern.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#6 » by Stillwater » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:27 pm

Revenged25 wrote:Just curious, how has Sexton's play been? I haven't been able to watch games so far this season and just curious. The box score has looked pretty horrendous, though it has for pretty much everyone outside of Love and Osman that I focused on though I think I saw Hood with some good games, so it was causing some concern.

He is coming off the bench and the kid isn't interested in personal accolades just improving his game although he definitely took it personal that Young was putting up big numbers with our wretched switching and poor communication giving all the ATL players plenty of looks, esp given he shut Young down in College when he was allowed to lock in.
I think we will see more from Sexton attacking the paint once he gets settled in and the team is in better shape around him.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#7 » by cavs4872 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:30 am

tundraknight wrote:I know it sucks that the Nets pick didn’t bottom out as much as we had hoped. One of Doncic, JJJ, Young, or Ayton would’ve been wonderful.

I cried and begged for them to trade that pick for a difference maker that could've helped win a title last season (Lou Will & DJ for example, but we honestly could've done better), but no, just so the Cavs will never win another chip in our lifetime? You gotta take the sure thing.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#8 » by Stillwater » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:36 pm

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tundraknight wrote:I know it sucks that the Nets pick didn’t bottom out as much as we had hoped. One of Doncic, JJJ, Young, or Ayton would’ve been wonderful.

I cried and begged for them to trade that pick for a difference maker that could've helped win a title last season (Lou Will & DJ for example, but we honestly could've done better), but no, just so the Cavs will never win another chip in our lifetime? You gotta take the sure thing.

So he's a bust after 4 games :crazy: gtfo
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:44 pm

LOL. People are out way over their skis on this kid. He's a 19-year old rookie who has played in a total of 4 games. He had a really good game against the Wolves. It's going to take awhile for him to adjust to the NBA. Plenty of rookie PGs struggle right out of the gate and go on to have good careers.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#10 » by cavs4872 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:50 pm

Stillwater wrote:
cavs4872 wrote:
tundraknight wrote:I know it sucks that the Nets pick didn’t bottom out as much as we had hoped. One of Doncic, JJJ, Young, or Ayton would’ve been wonderful.

I cried and begged for them to trade that pick for a difference maker that could've helped win a title last season (Lou Will & DJ for example, but we honestly could've done better), but no, just so the Cavs will never win another chip in our lifetime? You gotta take the sure thing.

So he's a bust after 4 games :crazy: gtfo

I'm not saying he's a bust; I'm saying we will probably never see another Cavs championship in our lifetime, and last season was our best shot.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#11 » by Stillwater » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:21 pm

cavs4872 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
cavs4872 wrote:I cried and begged for them to trade that pick for a difference maker that could've helped win a title last season (Lou Will & DJ for example, but we honestly could've done better), but no, just so the Cavs will never win another chip in our lifetime? You gotta take the sure thing.

So he's a bust after 4 games :crazy: gtfo

I'm not saying he's a bust; I'm saying we will probably never see another Cavs championship in our lifetime, and last season was our best shot.

well you must be pretty old if you think that :)
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#12 » by cavs4872 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:30 pm

Cleveland can't pull any FAs worth a damn, even when LBJ was here. LeBron is a once in a lifetime talent who only returned because of his roots; you have to strike while the iron is hot. It's a business though, and they probably value filling seats over a championship.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#13 » by Stillwater » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:46 pm

cavs4872 wrote:Cleveland can't pull any FAs worth a damn, even when LBJ was here. LeBron is a once in a lifetime talent who only returned because of his roots; you have to strike while the iron is hot. It's a business though, and they probably value filling seats over a championship.

To me the problem with FA when Lebron was here resides in the Clutch sports contracts for his buddies and the fact that he would not commit where no player that fit Lebrons timeline would sign in CLE given Lebron would be the main reason they did.
FA options will be decent once Thompson falls off the books and Hill/Smith are good as gone after this season as well, of course the level of player you attract in FA will hang on how much development is achieved by Sexton,Osman,Nance etc.
I see the Cavs getting progressively better as the season rolls and will either take a step back with Hill moved if it's for draft assets, or they will maintain that curve if it's for a longer contract rotation player. Either way the young core continues it's progress all season.
I think summer of 2020 is the key to if this core adds enough in FA to leapfrog in the process of retooling.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#14 » by morricana » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:17 pm

I see the future of the Cavs very black, the hangover after the flight of LeBron will be long and hard. In addition, watching the games gives the feeling that the veterans of the team do not delegate enough in Sexton, unlike what happens in Atlanta with Trae Young. So it will still be more difficult for young Sexton to evolve.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#15 » by cavs4872 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:29 pm

morricana wrote:I see the future of the Cavs very black, the hangover after the flight of LeBron will be long and hard. In addition, watching the games gives the feeling that the veterans of the team do not delegate enough in Sexton, unlike what happens in Atlanta with Trae Young. So it will still be more difficult for young Sexton to evolve.

Yeah, but Sexton is the complete opposite of Trae Young.
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Re: Collin Sexton on regular season 

Post#16 » by Stillwater » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:40 pm

cavs4872 wrote:
morricana wrote:I see the future of the Cavs very black, the hangover after the flight of LeBron will be long and hard. In addition, watching the games gives the feeling that the veterans of the team do not delegate enough in Sexton, unlike what happens in Atlanta with Trae Young. So it will still be more difficult for young Sexton to evolve.

Yeah, but Sexton is the complete opposite of Trae Young.

Iv'e said it before, but the problem with Young is his defense has no upside at all. He can never be the type of guard that you can rely apon to be a 2 way player. Sexton isn't the offensive dynamo that Young is, but Sextons got a lot more scoring ability than he is tasked with right now ; his fire,motor and upside on both sides of the ball are promising. He has a lot of ability to get to the basket get to the line etc,but he is focused on trying to be a better distributor and defender right now with more accomplished vets being responsible for getting buckets. Sexton is patient, the org is patient with him, and he doesn't have the kind of pressure Young does.
Young is being asked to score first then pass. Cavs really made Young look great thanks to the piss poor switching on defense in that match up. The way I see it is despite Young's high level court vision and passing likely being his mainstay for the duration of his rookie deal , those are are his only tools to hang his hat on where I believe his long range shooting will suffer a lot much in the same way it did in the 2nd half of the college season whenever teams are locked in defensively. Hell Sexton himself shut Young down when he guarded him without all the switching.
Sexton has one of the highest levels of intelligence of any NBA player, so I am confident his bb iq will catch up pretty quickly along with the motor and drive to never quit never surrender.
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