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Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#1 » by Stillwater » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:27 am

The first thread got off topic so I will open this up again here.
Please stick to the topic of discussing future draft prospects not past ones.

I am pretty certain the league is going to do its best to attempt to make the pre draft process
as close to normal as possible with the push back to Nov.
So hopefully they can gather some better intel than what they
have so far.
here is an example of a first round only where CLE buys a mid first from a tax team
and stays at 5 and JW slides to them
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/773871/
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#2 » by KGdaBom » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:31 am

We're doing a fan voted big board over on the Timberwolves forum. Fist player to 5 votes or best out of 10 than it moves on to the next spot. I thought you might like to see it.
1. Edwards.
2. Ball
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Okongwu
6. Hayes
7. Vassell
8. Williams
9. Okoro
10. Haliburton
11. Toppin
12. S.Bey (3) Maxey (1) Pokusevsky (1)
Notice we are voting on #12 and Bey is leading with 3 votes. I thought Williams at 8 was surprising and I think it's cool to hate on Toppin right now, but I will be very surprised if he falls to 11. Once again this is not a mock draft. This is a Wolves based big board.
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#3 » by Stillwater » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:43 am

KGdaBom wrote:We're doing a fan voted big board over on the Timberwolves forum. Fist player to 5 votes or best out of 10 than it moves on to the next spot. I thought you might like to see it.
1. Edwards.
2. Ball
3. Wiseman
4. Avdija
5. Okongwu
6. Hayes
7. Vassell
8. Williams
9. Okoro
10. Haliburton
11. Toppin
12. S.Bey (3) Maxey (1) Pokusevsky (1)
Notice we are voting on #12 and Bey is leading with 3 votes. I thought Williams at 8 was surprising and I think it's cool to hate on Toppin right now, but I will be very surprised if he falls to 11. Once again this is not a mock draft. This is a Wolves based big board.

yeah they had one going early on the general draft board but it fizzled out.
with the push back I am not expecting too much happening on here until after some form of combine or better new information is made available about health status any red flags etc.
Toppin is one that I think has a very large window and could go anywhere from 2 down to 14. His age and lack of lateral mobility are big enough factors I think he slides some.
It is interesting how these vote mocks go since they are usually way off from realty lol
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#4 » by jbk1234 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:55 am

It's kind of difficult to mock this draft because both Minny and GS want to trade back or even out. If they're unable, I could see both Edwards and Wiseman dropping.

I could see the Wolves drafting Okongwu. I could see GS drafting Vassell. I think Edwards/Ball go three and four in that scenario. It would be my hope that the Cavs take either Wiseman, Hayes or Okoro in that scenario.

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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#5 » by Stillwater » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:36 pm

Yep very unclear who will actually go before the Cavs pick despite there being some clear high floor options and a couple considered elite ceiling but are really far far away from it bein attainable.
Its tough because often the tournament gives you a good idea of who teams are really looking at
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#6 » by Stillwater » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:40 pm

I really dont have a big board for CLE at this time based on ltd information about each targeted players interest in CLE and its market vs other locations, each prospects proven anthro and health status etc.
There pretty much is little else for me to learn about any of them from a skills standpoint although a combine or even some updated accurate athletic/strength testing proven on youtube by each prospect would help to see who the workers are since there has been so much time since the college season hit the skids.
It would be nice to pick somebody with a love of the game that has them add skill in the extended offseason instead of lounging around
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#7 » by Stillwater » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:22 pm

after seeing what Herro is doing in Miami has me thinking Immanuel Quickley should be a first rounder. He possesses many of the same elite numbers like ft % and corner 3's but he also plays well within the offense off ball with ball handlers like Maxey. Granted he never passed the ball last season and his role really was ltd to catch and shoot , but the more I watch him move with and without the ball on older film, he can play the back up pg position in the league with exceptional length to defend with film study and reps and if his shooting transfers can be inserted as a 6th man scorer if he expands his iso game. he already shows decent separation skill and mobility. I would love to get proof of length and anthro somehow to mock him right...but I would definitely buy a early 2nd if he was still available although I think if the predraft process goes anything like normal, he will be gone in the 20's. Most see him as a catach and shoot undersized wing...I see a high upside 2 way score first 1 guard that had a huge green llight from Cal to shoot it instead of pass it and so since he showed he can play off ball better because of his movement and shooting skills and length to denfend helps his cause further off ball.
idk maybe he would be another one of those undersized 2 guards , but I think if he really has a 6'10"ws and his smooth athleticism really also includes a vert pushing the 40" mark... I think its a surefire success story waiting to happen.
https://hoopsprospects.com/2020/05/12/immanuel-quickley-scouting-report/
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#8 » by JonFromVA » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:50 pm

Tyler Herro's success even at 6'5" with a 6'3" wingspan is another reason Aaron Nesmith should be shooting up the boards; but if we can get back in the draft I do like the idea of a shooter with defensive potential.

According to nbadraft.net Quickley even at 21 yrs old, 6-3 190 is still not a very physical player, struggles to finish at the rim, tends to shy away from contact, etc. Certainly worth considering if we can buy a pick but I'd expect the Cavs to look first towards adding depth to the front-court.
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Re: Mock and big board thread take 2 

Post#9 » by Stillwater » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:27 pm

JonFromVA wrote:Tyler Herro's success even at 6'5" with a 6'3" wingspan is another reason Aaron Nesmith should be shooting up the boards; but if we can get back in the draft I do like the idea of a shooter with defensive potential.

According to nbadraft.net Quickley even at 21 yrs old, 6-3 190 is still not a very physical player, struggles to finish at the rim, tends to shy away from contact, etc. Certainly worth considering if we can buy a pick but I'd expect the Cavs to look first towards adding depth to the front-court.

Exactly lol he is an exceptional shooter and moves well with the ball but is best in off ball movement and continues to get negative reviews about his subpar finishing ability heck even the link i posted says it.
The point is he has great length for 6'3 to defend some 2s and is more explosive than he showed according to some reports anyway which i can buy to some degree helping him finish better with more spacing just looking at his length and mitts etc but id want proof before i picked him.
His handles are average though and needs to get stronger add a floater etc.
His production increased in year 2 just from usage increase but id guess hes a worker too and I actually think Herro helped him find his niche.
Even if just by example.
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