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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#41 » by JonFromVA » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:25 pm

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Neonblazer wrote:Allen-Mobley-Markkanen trio actually worked alot better than expected. But the real question is where that leaves Sexton and Garland. With the trio they would have to play alot more around the arc and infront of the rim and basically never go under the rim. That's literally the opposite of what Sexton has been doing, atleast this preseason. Sexton has been running under the rim every single game and looked for passes in there.

Sexton and Garland aren't bad players but its obvious that the franchise will be build around Mobley, either they adapt or get traded.


thats why i keep saying trade sexton bc he aint serving the bench like lauri. allen is the odd guy out with mobley already surpassing him but he is a much winning basketball player than sexton. you need a vet like rubio to start along garland to develop the bigs.
allen can work if the cavs get rid of love for a 3 man big rotation sharing 96minutes.

exact same lineup without sexton cavs play much better and not a 50pt blowout. blessing in disguise now you know whose the problem. cavs best lineup is clearly rubio-garland-lauri-mobley-allen.
I'm not willing to say that Mobley has already surpassed Allen based on one preseason game where the opposing center was Vuc. Mobley looked very comfortable playing in space to me and he does need to add at least a little bit of muscle mass to that frame. Long-term maybe he is a center, but if keeping him at the 4 until he's old enough to drink saves him from some injuries, I think that's prudent.

They've told Love he's not getting more than 10-15 minutes per game off the bench and he seems fine with that. He might actually finish a season healthy. He can still get hot on occasion, he dropped 30 on Boston last April, he can help with spacing, it's a long season, and guys playing in front of him will get banged up. I don't see Love off the bench in limited minutes as an issue.


Basically there are more physical C's in the league than Vuc, and some of them will presumably be able to push Mobley around and beat him up more than we'd like ... so that's really where Allen comes in.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#42 » by tundraknight » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:36 pm

Neonblazer wrote:Allen-Mobley-Markkanen trio actually worked alot better than expected. But the real question is where that leaves Sexton and Garland. With the trio they would have to play alot more around the arc and infront of the rim and basically never go under the rim. That's literally the opposite of what Sexton has been doing, atleast this preseason. Sexton has been running under the rim every single game and looked for passes in there.

Sexton and Garland aren't bad players but its obvious that the franchise will be build around Mobley, either they adapt or get traded.


I was just reading on the Bulls board game thread comments out of boredom and here’s what one of there posters typed.

“ Yeah, Evan Mobley is a special talent. That guy is for real. Also, the Cavs are way more enjoyable to watch when Sexton isn't playing.”

That kind of goes with what you were saying.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#43 » by JonFromVA » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:08 pm

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Neonblazer wrote:Allen-Mobley-Markkanen trio actually worked alot better than expected. But the real question is where that leaves Sexton and Garland. With the trio they would have to play alot more around the arc and infront of the rim and basically never go under the rim. That's literally the opposite of what Sexton has been doing, atleast this preseason. Sexton has been running under the rim every single game and looked for passes in there.

Sexton and Garland aren't bad players but its obvious that the franchise will be build around Mobley, either they adapt or get traded.


I was just reading on the Bulls board game thread comments out of boredom and here’s what one of there posters typed.

“ Yeah, Evan Mobley is a special talent. That guy is for real. Also, the Cavs are way more enjoyable to watch when Sexton isn't playing.”

That kind of goes with what you were saying.


There have always been floor chemistry questions with Collin, but his play in the pre-season has been on a whole other level of bad.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#44 » by PaKii94 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:39 pm

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Neonblazer wrote:Allen-Mobley-Markkanen trio actually worked alot better than expected. But the real question is where that leaves Sexton and Garland. With the trio they would have to play alot more around the arc and infront of the rim and basically never go under the rim. That's literally the opposite of what Sexton has been doing, atleast this preseason. Sexton has been running under the rim every single game and looked for passes in there.

Sexton and Garland aren't bad players but its obvious that the franchise will be build around Mobley, either they adapt or get traded.


I was just reading on the Bulls board game thread comments out of boredom and here’s what one of there posters typed.

“ Yeah, Evan Mobley is a special talent. That guy is for real. Also, the Cavs are way more enjoyable to watch when Sexton isn't playing.”

That kind of goes with what you were saying.


There have always been floor chemistry questions with Collin, but his play in the pre-season has been on a whole other level of bad.



Sexton reminds me of a younger Zach Lavine. He has always had the scoring chops but his fundamentals/everything else was severely deficient. To the point where he was a net negative player up until the last 2 years or so. It took him 4 years of hard work to eventually become a positive player. I don't have enough background on Sexton to know his work ethic/drive but there is a chance he can eventually develop.

However, to develop Sexton, it will take a lot of patience and a lot of frustrating/losing play. I don't know if his development is worth limiting mobley/Garland. Also I don't think Sexton can ever become a positive on defense given his build
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#45 » by PaKii94 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:40 pm

Also before the preseason I thought mobley needed to be brought along slowly/Lauri should start. But mobley looks damn special. A trio of mobley/Allen/Lauri is a very legit big man rotation.
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Re: 2021-22 Preseason 

Post#46 » by JonFromVA » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:42 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:
tundraknight wrote:
I was just reading on the Bulls board game thread comments out of boredom and here’s what one of there posters typed.

“ Yeah, Evan Mobley is a special talent. That guy is for real. Also, the Cavs are way more enjoyable to watch when Sexton isn't playing.”

That kind of goes with what you were saying.


There have always been floor chemistry questions with Collin, but his play in the pre-season has been on a whole other level of bad.



Sexton reminds me of a younger Zach Lavine. He has always had the scoring chops but his fundamentals/everything else was severely deficient. To the point where he was a net negative player up until the last 2 years or so. It took him 4 years of hard work to eventually become a positive player. I don't have enough background on Sexton to know his work ethic/drive but there is a chance he can eventually develop.

However, to develop Sexton, it will take a lot of patience and a lot of frustrating/losing play. I don't know if his development is worth limiting mobley/Garland. Also I don't think Sexton can ever become a positive on defense given his build



Collin was on his way to becoming a positive player last season until injuries gutted the team. He's been an exceptional clutch time player

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