2024-25 Regular Season

[JujitsuFlip]

In the past few days I've seen posts from both a Knicks fan and a Magic fan deciding their problem .vs. us is their bench because their starters managed to match or best our starters in total points.

Here's one of them:

*snip*
Many of us Magic fans are complaining about Paolo and Franz. Yet Paolo scored 26 tonight and Franz nailed us another 19. Should our core of stars be the real focus in taking the next step? Or should Jeff Weltman has something else to focus on?
*snip*

I'm so tempted to reply, but have been holding back to be gracious; but yeah, our reserves are playing great, but that doesn't mean our starters aren't also. You just can't compare bulk numbers when our big guns are taking less shots, playing fewer minutes, and sharing the wealth because ... they can.

Specifically our starters were +8 in ~9 minutes .vs. Orlando and +7 in ~10 minutes .vs. the Knicks, so, when matched up in equal minutes they were nowhere close to equal.

Those fan bases on the GB could not be more delusional.

Knicks collective fan base are hoping Robinson who has not played in 10 months will make them competitive against the top of the NBA.

Magicians collective fan base really think they're still on par with us lol i think beating them last night by 40 points helped quiet that a bit, even if only temporarily.

[ijspeelman]

In the past few days I've seen posts from both a Knicks fan and a Magic fan deciding their problem .vs. us is their bench because their starters managed to match or best our starters in total points.

Here's one of them:

*snip*
Many of us Magic fans are complaining about Paolo and Franz. Yet Paolo scored 26 tonight and Franz nailed us another 19. Should our core of stars be the real focus in taking the next step? Or should Jeff Weltman has something else to focus on?
*snip*

I'm so tempted to reply, but have been holding back to be gracious; but yeah, our reserves are playing great, but that doesn't mean our starters aren't also. You just can't compare bulk numbers when our big guns are taking less shots, playing fewer minutes, and sharing the wealth because ... they can.

Specifically our starters were +8 in ~9 minutes .vs. Orlando and +7 in ~10 minutes .vs. the Knicks, so, when matched up in equal minutes they were nowhere close to equal.

Those fan bases on the GB could not be more delusional.

Knicks collective fan base are hoping Robinson who has not played in 10 months will make them competitive against the top of the NBA.

Magicians collective fan base really think they're still on par with us lol i think beating them last night by 40 points helped quiet that a bit, even if only temporarily.

Tbf I don't think other fans even realize the Cavs are barely playing their starters together and/or they are playing an extremely low amount of minutes compared to their skill. So, yeah their raw +/- looks pedestrian, but the better data is in the per-100 stats and will bode well when the minutes pick up when it matters.

[JujitsuFlip]

In the past few days I've seen posts from both a Knicks fan and a Magic fan deciding their problem .vs. us is their bench because their starters managed to match or best our starters in total points.

Here's one of them:



I'm so tempted to reply, but have been holding back to be gracious; but yeah, our reserves are playing great, but that doesn't mean our starters aren't also. You just can't compare bulk numbers when our big guns are taking less shots, playing fewer minutes, and sharing the wealth because ... they can.

Specifically our starters were +8 in ~9 minutes .vs. Orlando and +7 in ~10 minutes .vs. the Knicks, so, when matched up in equal minutes they were nowhere close to equal.

Those fan bases on the GB could not be more delusional.

Knicks collective fan base are hoping Robinson who has not played in 10 months will make them competitive against the top of the NBA.

Magicians collective fan base really think they're still on par with us lol i think beating them last night by 40 points helped quiet that a bit, even if only temporarily.

Tbf I don't think other fans even realize the Cavs are barely playing their starters together and/or they are playing an extremely low amount of minutes compared to their skill. So, yeah their raw +/- looks pedestrian, but the better data is in the per-100 stats and will bode well when the minutes pick up when it matters.

It is just baffling that after being almost 3/4 through the season the Cavs are somehow still underrated.

[JonFromVA]

In the past few days I've seen posts from both a Knicks fan and a Magic fan deciding their problem .vs. us is their bench because their starters managed to match or best our starters in total points.

Here's one of them:

*snip*
Many of us Magic fans are complaining about Paolo and Franz. Yet Paolo scored 26 tonight and Franz nailed us another 19. Should our core of stars be the real focus in taking the next step? Or should Jeff Weltman has something else to focus on?
*snip*

I'm so tempted to reply, but have been holding back to be gracious; but yeah, our reserves are playing great, but that doesn't mean our starters aren't also. You just can't compare bulk numbers when our big guns are taking less shots, playing fewer minutes, and sharing the wealth because ... they can.

Specifically our starters were +8 in ~9 minutes .vs. Orlando and +7 in ~10 minutes .vs. the Knicks, so, when matched up in equal minutes they were nowhere close to equal.

Those fan bases on the GB could not be more delusional.

Knicks collective fan base are hoping Robinson who has not played in 10 months will make them competitive against the top of the NBA.

Magicians collective fan base really think they're still on par with us lol i think beating them last night by 40 points helped quiet that a bit, even if only temporarily.

I'm willing to cut the Knicks hopefuls some slack. I mean it's no sure thing that Mitch will even stay healthy for long once he returns, but he is their only hope at this point of cleaning up their defense.

It's a little like we kept hoping we might enter the playoffs with a healthy Dean Wade so we'd have a wing defender with size or a viable back up PG but usually had neither and just had to take the abuse for it.

Things are shaping up nicely this season with Hunter, Wade, Okoro and even Green plus Jerome and CPJ. If we have an Achilles heal, it's that backup C/PF. But even then in a lot of cases we'll be able to get away with going small at C or PF if we have to and still benefit from spacing/shooting.

[toooskies]

Those fan bases on the GB could not be more delusional.

Knicks collective fan base are hoping Robinson who has not played in 10 months will make them competitive against the top of the NBA.

Magicians collective fan base really think they're still on par with us lol i think beating them last night by 40 points helped quiet that a bit, even if only temporarily.

Tbf I don't think other fans even realize the Cavs are barely playing their starters together and/or they are playing an extremely low amount of minutes compared to their skill. So, yeah their raw +/- looks pedestrian, but the better data is in the per-100 stats and will bode well when the minutes pick up when it matters.

It is just baffling that after being almost 3/4 through the season the Cavs are somehow still underrated.

Didn't even sneak up on anybody. We won our first 15 games after all.

Our current 12-1 stretch is impressive but only our third-best stretch this year after starting 15-0 and going 16-1 from Dec1-Jan9.

7 of our first 15 wins were by single digits. Since then, only 6 of our next 33 wins have been by single digits.

Our wins are getting more decisive over time. We're getting better.

[JujitsuFlip]

Tbf I don't think other fans even realize the Cavs are barely playing their starters together and/or they are playing an extremely low amount of minutes compared to their skill. So, yeah their raw +/- looks pedestrian, but the better data is in the per-100 stats and will bode well when the minutes pick up when it matters.

It is just baffling that after being almost 3/4 through the season the Cavs are somehow still underrated.

Didn't even sneak up on anybody. We won our first 15 games after all.

Our current 12-1 stretch is impressive but only our third-best stretch this year after starting 15-0 and going 16-1 from Dec1-Jan9.

7 of our first 15 wins were by single digits. Since then, only 6 of our next 33 wins have been by single digits.

Our wins are getting more decisive over time. We're getting better.

It seems like the 8 of us in here and about another random 5 or 6 out on the GB are the only people aware of how good the Cavs are lol

I am so stoked for Friday's game. I know it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme but still.

We were missing Wade, Strus, Okoro, and LeVert in the 1st game. Missing Wade and Strus in the 2nd game. Then missing Wade and Okoro in the 3rd game.

I don't want to jinx it with illness going around and random practice injuries possible but as of this writing we should have Wade, Hunter, Okoro, Strus, and Green all available which are huge in matchup vs the Celtics.

[ijspeelman]

It is just baffling that after being almost 3/4 through the season the Cavs are somehow still underrated.

Didn't even sneak up on anybody. We won our first 15 games after all.

Our current 12-1 stretch is impressive but only our third-best stretch this year after starting 15-0 and going 16-1 from Dec1-Jan9.

7 of our first 15 wins were by single digits. Since then, only 6 of our next 33 wins have been by single digits.

Our wins are getting more decisive over time. We're getting better.

It seems like the 8 of us in here and about another random 5 or 6 out on the GB are the only people aware of how good the Cavs are lol

I am so stoked for Friday's game. I know it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme but still.

We were missing Wade, Strus, Okoro, and LeVert in the 1st game. Missing Wade and Strus in the 2nd game. Then missing Wade and Okoro in the 3rd game.

I don't want to jinx it with illness going around and random practice injuries possible but as of this writing we should have Wade, Hunter, Okoro, Strus, and Green all available which are huge in matchup vs the Celtics.

I wouldn't take too much from what the GB thinks. Its a little too casual there where there are only a handful of quality posters and most peeps in there are only saying talking points they've heard. And the Cavs still have this stigma in the public eye of a non-playoff team. I still see the 2014-15 Hawks label flying around and until we do it in the playoffs it'll go away.

[JonFromVA]

Didn't even sneak up on anybody. We won our first 15 games after all.

Our current 12-1 stretch is impressive but only our third-best stretch this year after starting 15-0 and going 16-1 from Dec1-Jan9.

7 of our first 15 wins were by single digits. Since then, only 6 of our next 33 wins have been by single digits.

Our wins are getting more decisive over time. We're getting better.

It seems like the 8 of us in here and about another random 5 or 6 out on the GB are the only people aware of how good the Cavs are lol

I am so stoked for Friday's game. I know it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme but still.

We were missing Wade, Strus, Okoro, and LeVert in the 1st game. Missing Wade and Strus in the 2nd game. Then missing Wade and Okoro in the 3rd game.

I don't want to jinx it with illness going around and random practice injuries possible but as of this writing we should have Wade, Hunter, Okoro, Strus, and Green all available which are huge in matchup vs the Celtics.

I wouldn't take too much from what the GB thinks. Its a little too casual there where there are only a handful of quality posters and most peeps in there are only saying talking points they've heard. And the Cavs still have this stigma in the public eye of a non-playoff team. I still see the 2014-15 Hawks label flying around and until we do it in the playoffs it'll go away.

That Hawks team nose dived after the All-Star break finishing 17-11, not exactly tearing it up going in to the playoffs.

Not to mention Kyle Korver led that team in +/- by a substantial amount. Having guys to chase him through all those screens and get up in him basically negated their offense.

Let's hope we finish stronger.

[JujitsuFlip]

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_to_sign_naeqwan_tomlin_to_two_way_deal_additional_roster_move_needed/s1_17038_41840020

Tomlin is signing a two-way deal.

Edit: looks like Thor was waived to make room for Tomlin. I like keeping spot 15 open for now.

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/saturday-s-transactions-20196263.php

[jbk1234]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

[JujitsuFlip]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

The last 2 minute report confirmed 2 missed calls.

He probably shouldn't have did that but kudos to him.

[jbk1234]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

The last 2 minute report confirmed 2 missed calls.

He probably shouldn't have did that but kudos to him.

Calling out a specific official by name is never a good idea, but calling out a female official is a particularly bad idea. The officiating was awful, but you don't single someone out.

[ijspeelman]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

The last 2 minute report confirmed 2 missed calls.

He probably shouldn't have did that but kudos to him.

Not that I disagree w him calling out the refs, but he did call the ref out by name and you just can't do that without getting fined.

And the last two minutes were not the bulk of the bad calls

[JujitsuFlip]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

The last 2 minute report confirmed 2 missed calls.

He probably shouldn't have did that but kudos to him.

Not that I disagree w him calling out the refs, but he did call the ref out by name and you just can't do that without getting fined.

And the last two minutes were not the bulk of the bad calls

He knew he was gonna get fined, he just didn't care. Got his money's worth.

[JonFromVA]

Ty Jerome got fined for critizing the officials after the Blazers game.

The last 2 minute report confirmed 2 missed calls.

He probably shouldn't have did that but kudos to him.

Calling out a specific official by name is never a good idea, but calling out a female official is a particularly bad idea. The officiating was awful, but you don't single someone out.

No kidding, but if he wasn't suspended, it's all good.

[youngyeezy]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_to_sign_naeqwan_tomlin_to_two_way_deal_additional_roster_move_needed/s1_17038_41840020

Tomlin is signing a two-way deal.

Edit: looks like Thor was waived to make room for Tomlin. I like keeping spot 15 open for now.

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/saturday-s-transactions-20196263.php

I feel like Thor is much better than Emoni rn, why'd they get rid of him?

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_to_sign_naeqwan_tomlin_to_two_way_deal_additional_roster_move_needed/s1_17038_41840020

Tomlin is signing a two-way deal.

Edit: looks like Thor was waived to make room for Tomlin. I like keeping spot 15 open for now.

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/saturday-s-transactions-20196263.php

I feel like Thor is much better than Emoni rn, why'd they get rid of him?

I guess because Thor is about to be out of two-way eligibility after this season.

Wizards claimed him on waivers, so they obviously wanted to get a look at him.

[JonFromVA]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_to_sign_naeqwan_tomlin_to_two_way_deal_additional_roster_move_needed/s1_17038_41840020

Tomlin is signing a two-way deal.

Edit: looks like Thor was waived to make room for Tomlin. I like keeping spot 15 open for now.

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/saturday-s-transactions-20196263.php

I feel like Thor is much better than Emoni rn, why'd they get rid of him?

Thor lost out to Tomlin, not Bates. If we find a better wing prospect, maybe Bates will be on the move next.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_to_sign_naeqwan_tomlin_to_two_way_deal_additional_roster_move_needed/s1_17038_41840020

Tomlin is signing a two-way deal.

Edit: looks like Thor was waived to make room for Tomlin. I like keeping spot 15 open for now.

https://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/saturday-s-transactions-20196263.php

I feel like Thor is much better than Emoni rn, why'd they get rid of him?

Thor lost out to Tomlin, not Bates. If we find a better wing prospect, maybe Bates will be on the move next.

It won't be on a Two-Way, today is the final day to sign players to 2way deals this season.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/nba_dates_and_deadlines_to_watch_for_rest_of_season/s1_17038_41777108