Trade Ideas

[alevirfe]

Raps fan here...

I think Cleveland says no, but how do y'all feel about an all-in move of:

CLE Out: Mobley & Garland
CLE In: Siakam & OG

balances your roster really well IMO, but guts your longer term potential

[ijspeelman]

Raps fan here...

I think Cleveland says no, but how do y'all feel about an all-in move of:

CLE Out: Mobley & Garland
CLE In: Siakam & OG

balances your roster really well IMO, but guts your longer term potential

We're 100% good on passing on this. IDK if a starting line-up of Mitch LeVert OG Siakam Allen with Rubio Okoro Cedi Wade nd Love off the bench is the favorite to win this year. Plus, the longer term potential is incredibly appealing for what we have now.

[alevirfe]

Raps fan here...

I think Cleveland says no, but how do y'all feel about an all-in move of:

CLE Out: Mobley & Garland
CLE In: Siakam & OG

balances your roster really well IMO, but guts your longer term potential

We're 100% good on passing on this. IDK if a starting line-up of Mitch LeVert OG Siakam Allen with Rubio Okoro Cedi Wade nd Love off the bench is the favorite to win this year. Plus, the longer term potential is incredibly appealing for what we have now.

I think that team is good enough to win this season, but agree it's tough to punt on potential unless it definitively puts you head & shoulders above the rest

I also agree the championship window is shortened, but maybe not by as much as it seems. Siakam is 28 and OG is 25

the trade could be expanded to include a Trent/Love swap which I think would make your starting five easily the best in the league

Mitchell
Trent
OG
Siakam
Allen

[jbk1234]

Raps fan here...

I think Cleveland says no, but how do y'all feel about an all-in move of:

CLE Out: Mobley & Garland
CLE In: Siakam & OG

balances your roster really well IMO, but guts your longer term potential

Absolutely zero chance of this happening. Aside from the value being wildly off, the Cavs traded a half a decade's worth of first round picks for Mitchell, and Garland/Mobley are the insurance policy against finishing in the bottom 5 for that stretch.

[afarmenian]

What do we think about getting Ibaka? Cheap and can play with Mobley or Allen. Shouldn't cost much to acquire either. Give em RoLo and call it a day, they can have their 2025 second rounder back if they must.

Feel like Ibaka probably pretty cooked at this point but I like the thinking. I mean everyone just parrots wing wing wing wing we need a wing but we also need a backup big man almost as much. We have 6'8 can't jump over a piece of paper kevin love as our back up big. Outside of the towers we have no size top to bottom so we just need another big guy that can play off the bench post or wing .

On a side note nothing is more perplexing to me than how much better Brook Lopez is to Robin, its baffling.

Keep in mind Dean can give us minutes at backup PF or SF, and if Love's thumb is healing and/or he's adapting to it - his 3pt shooting can compensate for his lousy defense. Stevens best position may very well be backup PF, and even Cedi sometimes gets some play at backup PF.

Whoever we brought in would have to get over that bar in JBB's mind, or he'll get parked on the bench like Lopez, Diakite, I.Mobley, etc.

All of those options are lousy for what I am proposing and all have failed in some fashion already for what you are posing. The cavs need size, length someone that can play inside off the bench. You proposed a bunch of bandaid options because all of them are flawed. Sevens is no PF, an undersized PF has to make outside shots or be an animal inside on defense not just play hard sometimes and thump your chest once every 4 games.

Wade who knows what he is at this point.....Cedi just.....no...not even giving you size for a SF let alone a PF-C. IF love makes shots it SOMETIMES can compensate for his horrendous defense he is 34 and has had 2 months to heal.

The Cavs still need a legit big off the bench I don't understand how people can watch the games and see how badly we are getting beat on the boards and not see this. And then you are offering up that JB doesnt play 11-12 men and G league talent for why we don't need another legit big that makes no sense.

[jbk1234]

Feel like Ibaka probably pretty cooked at this point but I like the thinking. I mean everyone just parrots wing wing wing wing we need a wing but we also need a backup big man almost as much. We have 6'8 can't jump over a piece of paper kevin love as our back up big. Outside of the towers we have no size top to bottom so we just need another big guy that can play off the bench post or wing .

On a side note nothing is more perplexing to me than how much better Brook Lopez is to Robin, its baffling.

Keep in mind Dean can give us minutes at backup PF or SF, and if Love's thumb is healing and/or he's adapting to it - his 3pt shooting can compensate for his lousy defense. Stevens best position may very well be backup PF, and even Cedi sometimes gets some play at backup PF.

Whoever we brought in would have to get over that bar in JBB's mind, or he'll get parked on the bench like Lopez, Diakite, I.Mobley, etc.

All of those options are lousy for what I am proposing and all have failed in some fashion already for what you are posing. The cavs need size, length someone that can play inside off the bench. You proposed a bunch of bandaid options because all of them are flawed. Sevens is no PF, an undersized PF has to make outside shots or be an animal inside on defense not just play hard sometimes and thump your chest once every 4 games.

Wade who knows what he is at this point.....Cedi just.....no...not even giving you size for a SF let alone a PF-C. IF love makes shots it SOMETIMES can compensate for his horrendous defense he is 34 and has had 2 months to heal.

The Cavs still need a legit big off the bench I don't understand how people can watch the games and see how badly we are getting beat on the boards and not see this. And then you are offering up that JB doesnt play 11-12 men and G league talent for why we don't need another legit big that makes no sense.

One, of many, problems with the Mitchell trade is that it occurred at the end of the summer. Even Moses Brown would help, and if we knew we were shipping out Lauri, maybe we bring him back.

Maybe the Magic have buyer's remorse with Mo Bamba and want off his money? I think I'm done with Cedi, add Windler, and offer future cap relief?

I still want J. Rich though. If there's a third team willing to give value for LeVert, I'd ship it off to the Spurs and pull the trigger on that trade as well.

[mcfly1204]

Feel like Ibaka probably pretty cooked at this point but I like the thinking. I mean everyone just parrots wing wing wing wing we need a wing but we also need a backup big man almost as much. We have 6'8 can't jump over a piece of paper kevin love as our back up big. Outside of the towers we have no size top to bottom so we just need another big guy that can play off the bench post or wing .

On a side note nothing is more perplexing to me than how much better Brook Lopez is to Robin, its baffling.

Keep in mind Dean can give us minutes at backup PF or SF, and if Love's thumb is healing and/or he's adapting to it - his 3pt shooting can compensate for his lousy defense. Stevens best position may very well be backup PF, and even Cedi sometimes gets some play at backup PF.

Whoever we brought in would have to get over that bar in JBB's mind, or he'll get parked on the bench like Lopez, Diakite, I.Mobley, etc.

All of those options are lousy for what I am proposing and all have failed in some fashion already for what you are posing. The cavs need size, length someone that can play inside off the bench. You proposed a bunch of bandaid options because all of them are flawed. Sevens is no PF, an undersized PF has to make outside shots or be an animal inside on defense not just play hard sometimes and thump your chest once every 4 games.

Wade who knows what he is at this point.....Cedi just.....no...not even giving you size for a SF let alone a PF-C. IF love makes shots it SOMETIMES can compensate for his horrendous defense he is 34 and has had 2 months to heal.

The Cavs still need a legit big off the bench I don't understand how people can watch the games and see how badly we are getting beat on the boards and not see this. And then you are offering up that JB doesnt play 11-12 men and G league talent for why we don't need another legit big that makes no sense.

What are you proposing again?

[afarmenian]

Keep in mind Dean can give us minutes at backup PF or SF, and if Love's thumb is healing and/or he's adapting to it - his 3pt shooting can compensate for his lousy defense. Stevens best position may very well be backup PF, and even Cedi sometimes gets some play at backup PF.

Whoever we brought in would have to get over that bar in JBB's mind, or he'll get parked on the bench like Lopez, Diakite, I.Mobley, etc.

All of those options are lousy for what I am proposing and all have failed in some fashion already for what you are posing. The cavs need size, length someone that can play inside off the bench. You proposed a bunch of bandaid options because all of them are flawed. Sevens is no PF, an undersized PF has to make outside shots or be an animal inside on defense not just play hard sometimes and thump your chest once every 4 games.

Wade who knows what he is at this point.....Cedi just.....no...not even giving you size for a SF let alone a PF-C. IF love makes shots it SOMETIMES can compensate for his horrendous defense he is 34 and has had 2 months to heal.

The Cavs still need a legit big off the bench I don't understand how people can watch the games and see how badly we are getting beat on the boards and not see this. And then you are offering up that JB doesnt play 11-12 men and G league talent for why we don't need another legit big that makes no sense.

What are you proposing again?

The cavs are a small team they need another legit rebounding defending big man just as much as they need a wing.

[mcfly1204]

Okay, go on...

[toooskies]

I'd be fine with LeVert for Bullock and Powell. Or Bullock and Kleber. Or DFS and McGee.

[jbk1234]

I'd be fine with LeVert for Bullock and Powell. Or Bullock and Kleber. Or DFS and McGee.

Kleber can't be traded before the deadline due to his extension.

[KuruptedCav]

All of those options are lousy for what I am proposing and all have failed in some fashion already for what you are posing. The cavs need size, length someone that can play inside off the bench. You proposed a bunch of bandaid options because all of them are flawed. Sevens is no PF, an undersized PF has to make outside shots or be an animal inside on defense not just play hard sometimes and thump your chest once every 4 games.

Wade who knows what he is at this point.....Cedi just.....no...not even giving you size for a SF let alone a PF-C. IF love makes shots it SOMETIMES can compensate for his horrendous defense he is 34 and has had 2 months to heal.

The Cavs still need a legit big off the bench I don't understand how people can watch the games and see how badly we are getting beat on the boards and not see this. And then you are offering up that JB doesnt play 11-12 men and G league talent for why we don't need another legit big that makes no sense.

What are you proposing again?

The cavs are a small team they need another legit rebounding defending big man just as much as they need a wing.

Gorgui Dieng, Cody Zeller, Greg Monroe, Maurice Harkless.

They’ll fill out post-deadline. Plenty of options. Interesting to see what happens when flexibility is no longer at a premium.


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[jbk1234]

What are you proposing again?

The cavs are a small team they need another legit rebounding defending big man just as much as they need a wing.

Gorgui Dieng, Cody Zeller, Greg Monroe, Maurice Harkless.

They’ll fill out post-deadline. Plenty of options. Interesting to see what happens when flexibility is no longer at a premium.


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When was the last time those guys played an NBA game?

[JujitsuFlip]

The cavs are a small team they need another legit rebounding defending big man just as much as they need a wing.

Gorgui Dieng, Cody Zeller, Greg Monroe, Maurice Harkless.

They’ll fill out post-deadline. Plenty of options. Interesting to see what happens when flexibility is no longer at a premium.


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When was the last time those guys played an NBA game?

Dieng 2 days ago
Cody Zeller February last year
Monroe April last year (playoffs)
Mo March last year

[toooskies]

Could sign Carmelo to play Love's role if Love doesn't get out of his funk.

[jbk1234]

Yes please on Mo Bamba as a bench big.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2023/01/nba-trade-rumors-teams-not-meeting-price-for-detroit-pistons-forward-bojan-bogdanovic.html

[jbk1234]

Some interesting tidbits here in terms of outside interest in LeVert and Cedi.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_notes_caris_levert_cedi_osman_trade_rumors/s1_17038_38396949

[ijspeelman]

Some interesting tidbits here in terms of outside interest in LeVert and Cedi.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_notes_caris_levert_cedi_osman_trade_rumors/s1_17038_38396949

What do you think we could get for Cedi? He's kind of an odd player to put a value on. A trade with the Clippers, for example, may have us coming out with Luke Kennard or maybe Marcus Morris? Could we somehow swing getting RoCo?

I really like Luke Kennard as a shooter especially if we decide we want him as our token three no D guy if Love leaves. I'm super eh on Marcus Morris as a starting wing (though he's not the worst back-up wing).

RoCo in theory would be a great pick-up. His three ball is way down right now and he is definitely a better help guy than on-ball stopper. He'd basically be the Mobley role back-up.

[JonFromVA]

Some interesting tidbits here in terms of outside interest in LeVert and Cedi.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_notes_caris_levert_cedi_osman_trade_rumors/s1_17038_38396949

What do you think we could get for Cedi? He's kind of an odd player to put a value on. A trade with the Clippers, for example, may have us coming out with Luke Kennard or maybe Marcus Morris? Could we somehow swing getting RoCo?

I really like Luke Kennard as a shooter especially if we decide we want him as our token three no D guy if Love leaves. I'm super eh on Marcus Morris as a starting wing (though he's not the worst back-up wing).

RoCo in theory would be a great pick-up. His three ball is way down right now and he is definitely a better help guy than on-ball stopper. He'd basically be the Mobley role back-up.

I'm not sure I want another 3 and no D guy, unless the player brings some other things to the table: like smarts, solid length, rebounding, passing, team defense, etc.

Oh, and Caris, btw, is shooting 45.5% on his 3pters in January. On one hand, it's a great thing we've gotten him to accept a bench role and he's shown he can help the team in that role or as a starter; and on the other if we just want to get something back for what we've invested and make sure we don't lost him for nothing- his recent performance helps with that.

[jbk1234]

Some interesting tidbits here in terms of outside interest in LeVert and Cedi.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/cavs_notes_caris_levert_cedi_osman_trade_rumors/s1_17038_38396949

What do you think we could get for Cedi? He's kind of an odd player to put a value on. A trade with the Clippers, for example, may have us coming out with Luke Kennard or maybe Marcus Morris? Could we somehow swing getting RoCo?

I really like Luke Kennard as a shooter especially if we decide we want him as our token three no D guy if Love leaves. I'm super eh on Marcus Morris as a starting wing (though he's not the worst back-up wing).

RoCo in theory would be a great pick-up. His three ball is way down right now and he is definitely a better help guy than on-ball stopper. He'd basically be the Mobley role back-up.

If the Spurs really are interested, I'd hope we just go get J.Rich. Then figure out a way to turn LeVert or Love into Mo Bamba and filler.

I wouldn't mind Kennard (his defense is better than Love or McD, both of whom could get played off the floor in the playoffs). Morris sucks and it's never a good sign when a team looking to fill multiple needs is DNPing a guy like RoCo that much. He's healthy and they should be auditioning him.