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[toooskies]

Guess the Cavs got off easy with Draymond after i saw him lock in the headlock on Rudy, lmao.

Him and Klay were just supposed to have a rest day but the in-season tournament didn't allow that.

[JujitsuFlip]

Guess the Cavs got off easy with Draymond after i saw him lock in the headlock on Rudy, lmao.

Him and Klay were just supposed to have a rest day but the in-season tournament didn't allow that.

Oh, good point. They made sure they were gonna get that rest one way or another.

Edit: also that's so dumb, league should just let the guys rest if antics like this are going to be what guys do who don't feel like playing that night.

[Iwasawitness]

Mitchell is GTD for Friday's game against the Pistons. So is Garland.

Man, Cleveland's injury woes potentially continue...

[ijspeelman]

Mitchell is GTD for Friday's game against the Pistons. So is Garland.

Man, Cleveland's injury woes potentially continue...

Pistons would actually be quite a bad team to be out any guards as well. They have Ausar Thompson who's been elite at stopping his match-up on defense (check out ThinkingBasketball's video on him if you haven't already). If he can focus on our sole playmaker, might be a really tough watch.

[Iwasawitness]

Mitchell is GTD for Friday's game against the Pistons. So is Garland.

Man, Cleveland's injury woes potentially continue...

Pistons would actually be quite a bad team to be out any guards as well. They have Ausar Thompson who's been elite at stopping his match-up on defense (check out ThinkingBasketball's video on him if you haven't already). If he can focus on our sole playmaker, might be a really tough watch.

It’s made worse by the fact that it’s a hamstring issue that Mitchell is dealing with. Unless he rests for an extended period of time, this is going to be a reoccurring issue. I don’t have a problem with him resting for a bit, but we would need Garland back.

[JonFromVA]

Guess the Cavs got off easy with Draymond after i saw him lock in the headlock on Rudy, lmao.

Him and Klay were just supposed to have a rest day but the in-season tournament didn't allow that.

Oh, good point. They made sure they were gonna get that rest one way or another.

Edit: also that's so dumb, league should just let the guys rest if antics like this are going to be what guys do who don't feel like playing that night.

I'm not sure I buy that.

After all, if the team thought it was important they could have just sat the players and ate the fine, or the players could have saved everyone money by just limping off the court with a non-contact injury.

Getting kicked out of the game not only comes with fines but potentially further penalties and repercussions down the line. If their antics escalated in to a brawl, any injuries or suspensions that resulted could have ended their season.

[JujitsuFlip]

Watching this Rockets/Warriors game and man that little Aaron Holiday dude zips around the floor, getting in passing lanes.

[JujitsuFlip]

Sexton acting like he wants a piece of Zion, you don't want those problems young bull.

[JujitsuFlip]

You all are telling me JB isn't capable of playing a rotation like this? Gimme a break.

[JujitsuFlip]

That's the kind of rotation you expect to see in November, kudos JKidd!

JB is a wet paper bag.

[Iwasawitness]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

[ijspeelman]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

He's having a fairly similar, but better year than last year which puts him at near-all star to all-star impact. He has sped things up since his rough stretch at the beginning of the season so if he can keep it up he may cement himself as an all-star

[JonFromVA]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

People already jumped to the conclusion that he'd regressed and had been passed by Chet and Wemby, and maybe even Scottie.

He's also no longer ruling the contested shot statistic either. With Allen settling back in and if his recent success with his jumper is no fluke, he will start to rise again.

[JujitsuFlip]

There we go Ham, that is the kind of rotation we like to see in the first week of December. JB could never.

[JonFromVA]

And it's not just about playing a deep rotation, it's about improving the energy level from the players who are on the floor.

[JujitsuFlip]

And it's not just about playing a deep rotation, it's about improving the energy level from the players who are on the floor.

I mean, chicken and egg.

Play more guys and the 7 footers won't be laboring at the end of games to get up and down the floor.

Play more guys and Mitchell can actually lock in on defense instead of only doing so in dire situations.

Play more guys bc it's just logical lol

[jasonxxx102]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

People already jumped to the conclusion that he'd regressed and had been passed by Chet and Wemby, and maybe even Scottie.

He's also no longer ruling the contested shot statistic either. With Allen settling back in and if his recent success with his jumper is no fluke, he will start to rise again.

Chet is very clearly above Mobley in terms of impact.

Wemby isn’t but he’s not in a great spot either way, I’d rather have Wemby over Mobley for the future though.

Scottie is taking a HUGE leap this season. He looks every bit of a 2 way do it all forward with all NBA upside. If we’re looking at this moment in time, Scottie has also passed Mobley.

[JujitsuFlip]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

People already jumped to the conclusion that he'd regressed and had been passed by Chet and Wemby, and maybe even Scottie.

He's also no longer ruling the contested shot statistic either. With Allen settling back in and if his recent success with his jumper is no fluke, he will start to rise again.

Chet is very clearly above Mobley in terms of impact.

Wemby isn’t but he’s not in a great spot either way, I’d rather have Wemby over Mobley for the future though.

Scottie is taking a HUGE leap this season. He looks every bit of a 2 way do it all forward with all NBA upside. If we’re looking at this moment in time, Scottie has also passed Mobley.

Wow, i didn't realize the tear Scottie has been on! His numbers are impressive, quite a leap.

[Iwasawitness]

I can’t help but feel that Mobley is not getting the attention he deserves for the kind of season he’s been having so far.

People already jumped to the conclusion that he'd regressed and had been passed by Chet and Wemby, and maybe even Scottie.

He's also no longer ruling the contested shot statistic either. With Allen settling back in and if his recent success with his jumper is no fluke, he will start to rise again.

Chet is very clearly above Mobley in terms of impact.

Wemby isn’t but he’s not in a great spot either way, I’d rather have Wemby over Mobley for the future though.

Scottie is taking a HUGE leap this season. He looks every bit of a 2 way do it all forward with all NBA upside. If we’re looking at this moment in time, Scottie has also passed Mobley.

In what regard are we talking about with Chet having a bigger impact? Offensively yes. Chet is very clearly superior on that front and is a huge reason OKC is as good as they are in that department. But defensively? He doesn't have the same defensive impact Mobley does. Does that change in the future? I don't really know because it's too early to say. Chet does impress me greatly at that end, but he's somehow even worse off from a build standpoint than Mobley is. At least Mobley can bang with bigger players. Chet can't really do that. His frame absolutely terrifies me and I really hope he can build great amounts of muscle if he's going to continue to be their center.

I 100% disagree with you about Barnes. A lot of people have raved about Scottie Barnes and the leap he's taken this season but honestly, it's being overblown. Does he have improved numbers? Yes. Has his shooting improved? So far, yes it absolutely has. But we have to keep in mind what's going on with the Raptors. VanVleet left the team which has opened up more shooting and playmaking opportunities for Barnes. He's very clearly their second option on offense and he's taking full advantage of that. But the sample size is still small and I want to see how he continues to do throughout the season. Mobley on the other hand is only three points per game behind him while taking four less shots per game. He still very clearly has an advantage defensively while currently averaging a double double. In the rare occasions that Mobley has been the second option, he's got a better PPG average. Hell, Barnes hasn't even topped Mobley's season high of 33 points yet. At this point, at least to me, Mobley is still very clearly the better player. People just don't really want to pay much attention to their respective situations and only want to focus on the stats.

The only part I agree with you on is Wemby. Yes, Mobley is better right now but I too fully expect Wemby to one day be the superior player, and I expect him to almost always win the DPOY battle. There will probably be a rivalry between the two on that front alone but I see Wemby coming out on top almost every time.

[jasonxxx102]

People already jumped to the conclusion that he'd regressed and had been passed by Chet and Wemby, and maybe even Scottie.

He's also no longer ruling the contested shot statistic either. With Allen settling back in and if his recent success with his jumper is no fluke, he will start to rise again.

Chet is very clearly above Mobley in terms of impact.

Wemby isn’t but he’s not in a great spot either way, I’d rather have Wemby over Mobley for the future though.

Scottie is taking a HUGE leap this season. He looks every bit of a 2 way do it all forward with all NBA upside. If we’re looking at this moment in time, Scottie has also passed Mobley.

In what regard are we talking about with Chet having a bigger impact? Offensively yes. Chet is very clearly superior on that front and is a huge reason OKC is as good as they are in that department. But defensively? He doesn't have the same defensive impact Mobley does. Does that change in the future? I don't really know because it's too early to say. Chet does impress me greatly at that end, but he's somehow even worse off from a build standpoint than Mobley is. At least Mobley can bang with bigger players. Chet can't really do that. His frame absolutely terrifies me and I really hope he can build great amounts of muscle if he's going to continue to be their center.

I 100% disagree with you about Barnes. A lot of people have raved about Scottie Barnes and the leap he's taken this season but honestly, it's being overblown. Does he have improved numbers? Yes. Has his shooting improved? So far, yes it absolutely has. But we have to keep in mind what's going on with the Raptors. VanVleet left the team which has opened up more shooting and playmaking opportunities for Barnes. He's very clearly their second option on offense and he's taking full advantage of that. But the sample size is still small and I want to see how he continues to do throughout the season. Mobley on the other hand is only three points per game behind him while taking four less shots per game. He still very clearly has an advantage defensively while currently averaging a double double. In the rare occasions that Mobley has been the second option, he's got a better PPG average. Hell, Barnes hasn't even topped Mobley's season high of 33 points yet. At this point, at least to me, Mobley is still very clearly the better player. People just don't really want to pay much attention to their respective situations and only want to focus on the stats.

The only part I agree with you on is Wemby. Yes, Mobley is better right now but I too fully expect Wemby to one day be the superior player, and I expect him to almost always win the DPOY battle. There will probably be a rivalry between the two on that front alone but I see Wemby coming out on top almost every time.

Here’s how I see the Chet / Mobley comparison.

Mobley is the better defender (despite all the models saying it’s Chet, I prefer the eye test), better passer out of the high post, better rebounder.

Chet is better offensively but the thing is that he’s light years ahead of Mobley on that end and that supersedes all of the other stuff. Chet is insanely efficient, can shoot from anywhere, and is a really solid ball handler. Mobley is none of those things, he’s average at best on that end. So unless he’s the greatest defensive player ever (he’s not), his impact isn’t the same as Chet.

Same things with Scottie. He’s been incredible defensively this season, his on ball has been great, super switchable, great as a weak side help defender, elite rebounder. Not to mention his offensive leap too, shooting the ball great from 3.

Until Mobley figures out how to add some offensive versatility to his game he’s just going to be limited