2024-25 Regular Season

[JujitsuFlip]

Bates looked light years away from being a regular rotation player in the last game of the season.

It is irrelevant. If it is Burns on a non guaranteed or Bates on his QO, neither guy is gonna play much. They're the 14th man or if we actually carry a full roster, the 15th man.

I'd like to see Burns in SL because Wade is good for an injury that will cost him in 20-30 games and Niang should get minimal run against playoff teams. We may need to play one of them.

I hope Burns doesn't get poached and we can put him on a 2 way to evaluate him for like 50 games.

[jbk1234]

It is irrelevant. If it is Burns on a non guaranteed or Bates on his QO, neither guy is gonna play much. They're the 14th man or if we actually carry a full roster, the 15th man.

I'd like to see Burns in SL because Wade is good for an injury that will cost him in 20-30 games and Niang should get minimal run against playoff teams. We may need to play one of them.

I hope Burns doesn't get poached and we can put him on a 2 way to evaluate him for like 50 games.

I hope he makes it clear that he's a better option than Bates and we haven't already extended the Q.O. to Bates.

[JujitsuFlip]

I'd like to see Burns in SL because Wade is good for an injury that will cost him in 20-30 games and Niang should get minimal run against playoff teams. We may need to play one of them.

I hope Burns doesn't get poached and we can put him on a 2 way to evaluate him for like 50 games.

I hope he makes it clear that he's a better option than Bates and we haven't already extended the Q.O. to Bates.

Bates QO has to be extended in the next couple days, same as Okoro.

We'll see if Bates gets 1 or becomes a UFA.

[jbk1234]

I hope Burns doesn't get poached and we can put him on a 2 way to evaluate him for like 50 games.

I hope he makes it clear that he's a better option than Bates and we haven't already extended the Q.O. to Bates.

Bates QO has to be extended in the next couple days, same as Okoro.

We'll see if Bates gets 1 or becomes a UFA.

Let him become a UFA.

[toooskies]

Tea leaves update:

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[ijspeelman]

Tea leaves update:

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Mitchell keeps things so quiet so I wouldn't be surprised if we just find out the day he can sign

[JujitsuFlip]

Tea leaves update:

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Mitchell keeps things so quiet so I wouldn't be surprised if we just find out the day he can sign

I really hope it is in the next couple days.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://hoopswire.com/cavaliers-cavs-darius-brown-ii-nba-rumors-news/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Idk who he is but I'm sure he'll end up on the Charge.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-extend-qualifying-offers-to-two-key-free-agents-01j1ja9se093

No surprise here, Cavs extend qualifying offers to Okoro and Bates.

[jbk1234]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-extend-qualifying-offers-to-two-key-free-agents-01j1ja9se093

No surprise here, Cavs extend qualifying offers to Okoro and Bates.

I guess the $2M is less than the vet minimum, but I'm not sure he'll provide more meaningful minutes than a guy on a vet minimum.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-extend-qualifying-offers-to-two-key-free-agents-01j1ja9se093

No surprise here, Cavs extend qualifying offers to Okoro and Bates.

I guess the $2M is less than the vet minimum, but I'm not sure he'll provide more meaningful minutes than a guy on a vet minimum.

It is a formality, if some team gave him a huge offer, Cavs don't match the offer sheet.

More so about just having the ability to match, more than anything.

[JonFromVA]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-extend-qualifying-offers-to-two-key-free-agents-01j1ja9se093

No surprise here, Cavs extend qualifying offers to Okoro and Bates.

I guess the $2M is less than the vet minimum, but I'm not sure he'll provide more meaningful minutes than a guy on a vet minimum.

Teams have gambled more money on crappier prospects, unlike many of them at least Emoni has feel for the game, can create a shot, and shoot.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-extend-qualifying-offers-to-two-key-free-agents-01j1ja9se093

No surprise here, Cavs extend qualifying offers to Okoro and Bates.

I guess the $2M is less than the vet minimum, but I'm not sure he'll provide more meaningful minutes than a guy on a vet minimum.

Teams have gambled more money on crappier prospects, unlike many of them at least Emoni has feel for the game, can create a shot, and shoot.

Also, if we look at guys who occupied back end roster spots the past 5 seasons... John Henson, Andy, Ed Davis, RoLo, and Damian Jones. There's nothing wrong with a 20 year old kid picking up his $1.8 million QO if that's the route he goes.

Kenny is the perfect coach for a 1 year look at a guy like Bates with the big club.

[jbk1234]

I guess the $2M is less than the vet minimum, but I'm not sure he'll provide more meaningful minutes than a guy on a vet minimum.

Teams have gambled more money on crappier prospects, unlike many of them at least Emoni has feel for the game, can create a shot, and shoot.

Also, if we look at guys who occupied back end roster spots the past 5 seasons... John Henson, Andy, Ed Davis, RoLo, and Damian Jones. There's nothing wrong with a 20 year old kid picking up his $1.8 million QO if that's the route he goes.

Kenny is the perfect coach for a 1 year look at a guy like Bates with the big club.

The problem is you still need that backup center for when one of Allen or Mobley get injured, and if we trade Allen as so many Cavs fans want, we'll need a good backup center who can play real minutes against certain starting centers.

[JujitsuFlip]

Teams have gambled more money on crappier prospects, unlike many of them at least Emoni has feel for the game, can create a shot, and shoot.

Also, if we look at guys who occupied back end roster spots the past 5 seasons... John Henson, Andy, Ed Davis, RoLo, and Damian Jones. There's nothing wrong with a 20 year old kid picking up his $1.8 million QO if that's the route he goes.

Kenny is the perfect coach for a 1 year look at a guy like Bates with the big club.

The problem is you still need that backup center for when one of Allen or Mobley get injured, and if we trade Allen as so many Cavs fans want, we'll need a good backup center who can play real minutes against certain starting centers.

Bates on the QO is not preventing the Cavs from getting a back-up center, from a money perspective or a roster spot perspective.

They can go agree to terms with Jalen Smith in 18 hours for part of the MLE, Bates is not at all impacting that.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://www.gobblercountry.com/2024/6/29/24188665/virginia-tech-basketball-hunter-cattoor-signs-nba-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league

College Cav to a professional Cav, at least for the summer league lol

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/college/memphis-tigers/2024/06/29/naeqwan-tomlin-cleveland-cavs-memphis-basketball/74239651007/

No details on this guys deal, we can assume SL for now.

[JonFromVA]

It's interesting how already booked our Summer League Defending Champs might be with CPJ, Tyson, Bates, IMobley, Nance, Merrill, and Travers. I suppose CPJ or Merrill may skip or play limited minutes since they have roster spots. Diop is recovering from an injury, so there should be minutes for DJ Burns.

I wonder if Atkinson will want to coach the team personally? Otherwise, he'd better start deciding quickly who he does or does not want on his staff. He could always name the Coach of the Defending SL Champs aka Mike Gerrity, who has been coaching the Charge. The Cavs like to move their coaches around, and if Atkinson likes him as much as Koby he may be a candidate to join Atkinson's staff.

[JujitsuFlip]

With free agency 6 hours away, I'm getting nervous that there's still no Mitchell extension. Hopefully he extends today, if not, do the Cavs try to trade him or do we just roll into the season with him on an expiring deal?

[JonFromVA]

I can imagine Isaac Okoro and his agent are pretty happy with Patrick William's getting 5/$90M.

[JonFromVA]

With free agency 6 hours away, I'm getting nervous that there's still no Mitchell extension. Hopefully he extends today, if not, do the Cavs try to trade him or do we just roll into the season with him on an expiring deal?

If he doesn't extend when eligible, I think we start talking to other teams; but it wouldn't be unreasonable for him to want to see how things go with Atkinson and he may want to see other roster moves go down before committing.

I'm not too worried about that, though. Mitchell can lock up the extension with whatever terms he wants, and if he doesn't like how things turn out, I do feel we'll send him to a team he likes. That's always been the play from day one, unless he starts to doubt Altman's sincerity / longevity.