Trade Ideas - Part 2

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #1361 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Fri May 30, 2014 12:47 am

we probably couldn't get wb for waiters AND kyrie

Post #1362 » by **bondom34** » Fri May 30, 2014 3:48 am

Yeah, Westbrook's off the table.

Dupp · Post #1363 » by **Dupp** » Fri May 30, 2014 4:15 am

It's pretty amazing how he's playing given his injury last year and his struggles with injuries a lot this season.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #1364 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Fri May 30, 2014 11:31 pm

dude's a machine

that's not mentioning the fact that up until that injury, he missed 0 games in his basketball career (high school, college, or the nba)

OffSetRaised · Post #1365 » by **OffSetRaised** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:45 pm

If we don't resign Luol Deng at a reasonable price we should try to trade for Ariza.

Dupp · Post #1366 » by **Dupp** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:52 pm

We should forget deng and go for Ariza instead IMO.

Post #1367 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat May 31, 2014 10:10 pm

Dupp wrote:We should forget deng and go for Ariza instead IMO.

You're gonna pay Ariza nearly as much if you want to get him away from the Wizards.

Dupp · Post #1368 » by **Dupp** » Sat May 31, 2014 10:27 pm

Yeah I've said in another thread I doubt he leaves the wiz but we'll see. Not sure deng is the right dirction for this team but we need someone there

BossHoggin · Post #1369 » by **BossHoggin** » Sat May 31, 2014 10:44 pm

BrooklynBulls wrote:
Dupp wrote:We should forget deng and go for Ariza instead IMO.

You're gonna pay Ariza nearly as much if you want to get him away from the Wizards.

Deng isn't a better player so this works

JDubb211 · Post #1370 » by **JDubb211** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 8:52 am

Jazz trade - Enes Kanter, Trey Burke and #23

Caves trade - Kyrie Irving

Dupp · Post #1371 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:16 am

Not even close.

KI-DW-TT-AB · Post #1372 » by **KI-DW-TT-AB** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 11:02 am

I'd rather have him walk.

But I would consider Kanter, Burke, 5th, and 23rd.

mcfly1204 · Post #1373 » by **mcfly1204** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 1:40 pm

BrooklynBulls wrote:
Dupp wrote:We should forget deng and go for Ariza instead IMO.

You're gonna pay Ariza nearly as much if you want to get him away from the Wizards.

I don't see it, Deng will get $11+ a season, but Aria should be in the $7-8 range.

Post #1374 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 5:09 pm

BossHoggin wrote:
BrooklynBulls wrote:
Dupp wrote:We should forget deng and go for Ariza instead IMO.
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You're gonna pay Ariza nearly as much if you want to get him away from the Wizards.
Deng isn't a better player so this works

Be very, very wary of contract year shenanigans. I'm not Deng's BIGGEST fan, since I wanted to trade him in the first place. But he's better than he was for you guys, a lot better.

I think Deng will cost about 11 million a year. As a guess. And Ariza will probably get 8 from Washington. Which means that in order to steal him, you'll probably have to offer at LEAST 9, maybe 10. For nearly equivalent cost, I'd definitely prefer Deng. He's better and more consistent at everything that isn't hitting a 3, and even that skill, Ariza has only been above average the past 2 years. It's unclear whether he'll keep it up, since he's certainly not known to be a deadeye.

Dupp · Post #1375 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:47 pm

If they both demand that much I'm pretty happy to pass on both. What's the alternative? I have no idea.

Post #1376 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:20 am

JDubb211 wrote:Jazz trade - Enes Kanter, Trey Burke and #23

Caves trade - Kyrie Irving

That is downright comical

mcfly1204 · Post #1377 » by **mcfly1204** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:22 am

Dupp wrote:If they both demand that much I'm pretty happy to pass on both. What's the alternative? I have no idea.

Giving Hayward $11 or $12. He has upside, and he should do really well next to two creators.

mrlancers · Post #1378 » by **mrlancers** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 8:23 pm

Assuming Kyrie really does want out....

I wonder if Exum gets snatched by the Bucks or Sixers, that would leave the Magic with most likely Parker. Would the Magic take Kyrie+33 for Nelson+4+12? Take Embiid at 1, Parker at 4 and a PG project like LaVine at 12 who would develop behind Jack.

I figure both teams would say no to that.

fart · Post #1379 » by **fart** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 9:01 pm

mrlancers wrote:Assuming Kyrie really does want out....

I wonder if Exum gets snatched by the Bucks or Sixers, that would leave the Magic with most likely Parker. Would the Magic take Kyrie+33 for Nelson+4+12? Take Embiid at 1, Parker at 4 and a PG project like LaVine at 12 who would develop behind Jack.

I figure both teams would say no to that.

I like this only if Parker/Wiggins falls to 4.

mrlancers · Post #1380 » by **mrlancers** » Mon Jun 2, 2014 10:32 pm

fart wrote:
mrlancers wrote:Assuming Kyrie really does want out....

I wonder if Exum gets snatched by the Bucks or Sixers, that would leave the Magic with most likely Parker. Would the Magic take Kyrie+33 for Nelson+4+12? Take Embiid at 1, Parker at 4 and a PG project like LaVine at 12 who would develop behind Jack.

I figure both teams would say no to that.

I like this only if Parker/Wiggins falls to 4.

My theory is that the Magic are probably targeting Exum at 4 to play alongside Oladipo. They're figuring like a lot of us the top 3 is Embiid/Parker/Wiggins in whatever order.

However, Milwaukee would be a good fit potentially with Exum partnered up with Knight in their backcourt, but I don't know if the Bucks are willing to pull the trigger on taking Dante and passing up both Wiggins and Parker. Very risky move because of the raw potential Exum has. Then again, this is the team that took a similar type of prospect in Antetokounmpo last year at 15 when little was known of him other than scouts drooling over his athleticism.

If the draft goes as expected, then I don't see the Magic taking Irving for Exum anyway. They'll take the prospect with the rookie deal over the guy who's due a big contract next summer.