Trade Ideas

[toooskies]

Meanwhile...Windler is raining 3s from 5 ft. behind the arc in the g-league lol

I know its 'just the g-league blah' but tis amazing what happens when you have consistent playing time and are able to get your rhythm and confidence back.

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This is why I'm in no rush to make any trades. We've got guys like Wade and Windler in the roster who are barely getting minutes. Pangos only plays in garbage time (although I'm less sure about him). Bickerstaff needs to expand his rotations a little. We shouldn't be making trades that impact the medium or short term until we've got a better idea of what the guys on the roster can do.

So how many minutes can you give Windler and who are you taking them from? Lauri? Isaac?

Windler gets 10 minutes a game at most because that's all the development time this roster has to spend on him. We are already developing Garland and Okoro and Lauri and Evan and Jarrett. And even Cedi. If he's reluctant to shoot in those 10 minutes, well... May as well let your defensive development guy play the defense instead.

[LivingLegend]

Meanwhile...Windler is raining 3s from 5 ft. behind the arc in the g-league lol

I know its 'just the g-league blah' but tis amazing what happens when you have consistent playing time and are able to get your rhythm and confidence back.

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This is why I'm in no rush to make any trades. We've got guys like Wade and Windler in the roster who are barely getting minutes. Pangos only plays in garbage time (although I'm less sure about him). Bickerstaff needs to expand his rotations a little. We shouldn't be making trades that impact the medium or short term until we've got a better idea of what the guys on the roster can do.

Idk what JB is doing with the 8man rotation crap but it needs to stop. These guys are going to be exhausted by the time the playoff comes or it's going to lead to injury.

It's like he's treating every game like it's March madness and shortening the bench.

We have guys like Wade, Windler, Stevens and even Ed Davis that are more than capable of playing 5-15 mins per night simply to give the regulars a extra break.

I wonder how much it has to do with JB being known for not liking young players because he doesn't trust them. That's what Grizzlies fans said about him is that he loves Vets and is reluctant with young guys.

Hopefully when the schedule loosens up and we play a bunch of Pacers, Pistons, Magic, ect he can let the bench play a bigger role

[Jorgeglez7]

I really would go for Cameron Reddish. Atlanta has recenlty said he is available in exchance for a first round and I think he would fit as a glove in this Cavaliers team. I don't what or if we'd need yo give something else. What do you think about It?

[LivingLegend]

Meanwhile...Windler is raining 3s from 5 ft. behind the arc in the g-league lol

I know its 'just the g-league blah' but tis amazing what happens when you have consistent playing time and are able to get your rhythm and confidence back.

Read on Twitter

This is why I'm in no rush to make any trades. We've got guys like Wade and Windler in the roster who are barely getting minutes. Pangos only plays in garbage time (although I'm less sure about him). Bickerstaff needs to expand his rotations a little. We shouldn't be making trades that impact the medium or short term until we've got a better idea of what the guys on the roster can do.

So how many minutes can you give Windler and who are you taking them from? Lauri? Isaac?

Windler gets 10 minutes a game at most because that's all the development time this roster has to spend on him. We are already developing Garland and Okoro and Lauri and Evan and Jarrett. And even Cedi. If he's reluctant to shoot in those 10 minutes, well... May as well let your defensive development guy play the defense instead.

We play a 8 man rotation when most teams play 10 and run our starters into the ground on a regular basis. I would like to start preserving our bigs because multiple 7ft players averaging 32-35min per game over a entire season can't be good for their long term health.

If we just shave 2-3 mins off of each current rotation player, it will create 10+ mins a night for 2 other guys to join the rotation.

Rubio is another guy who could see a few less mins per game. He's not young and he just spent the entire summer playing for his national team. He's played a looooot of basketball in the past year, the Cavs shouldn't run him into the ground this early in the year since he's essentially getting starters mins. I would like for his 28-29 mins per game come down to around 24-25. Allen needs to go from 34-35 down to 31-32.

You do that with all 8 guys and it not only keeps them fresh and a better chance at being healthy, but it also allows Wade/Windler/Stevens to actually have a role on this team for their own growth.

[JonFromVA]

It's been a long time since we've seen that version of Windler.

IMO, our biggest issue with minutes is JBB not using his bench more in b2b's. With winning in focus now, its reasonable to not force feed minute and while some of the guys have earned more burn, it's important to establish our primary rotations.

They're doing great, but there's still so much more chemistry to build and schemes they can learn.

[toooskies]

This is why I'm in no rush to make any trades. We've got guys like Wade and Windler in the roster who are barely getting minutes. Pangos only plays in garbage time (although I'm less sure about him). Bickerstaff needs to expand his rotations a little. We shouldn't be making trades that impact the medium or short term until we've got a better idea of what the guys on the roster can do.

So how many minutes can you give Windler and who are you taking them from? Lauri? Isaac?

Windler gets 10 minutes a game at most because that's all the development time this roster has to spend on him. We are already developing Garland and Okoro and Lauri and Evan and Jarrett. And even Cedi. If he's reluctant to shoot in those 10 minutes, well... May as well let your defensive development guy play the defense instead.

We play a 8 man rotation when most teams play 10 and run our starters into the ground on a regular basis. I would like to start preserving our bigs because multiple 7ft players averaging 32-35min per game over a entire season can't be good for their long term health.

If we just shave 2-3 mins off of each current rotation player, it will create 10+ mins a night for 2 other guys to join the rotation.

Rubio is another guy who could see a few less mins per game. He's not young and he just spent the entire summer playing for his national team. He's played a looooot of basketball in the past year, the Cavs shouldn't run him into the ground this early in the year since he's essentially getting starters mins. I would like for his 28-29 mins per game come down to around 24-25. Allen needs to go from 34-35 down to 31-32.

You do that with all 8 guys and it not only keeps them fresh and a better chance at being healthy, but it also allows Wade/Windler/Stevens to actually have a role on this team for their own growth.

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

[LivingLegend]

So how many minutes can you give Windler and who are you taking them from? Lauri? Isaac?

Windler gets 10 minutes a game at most because that's all the development time this roster has to spend on him. We are already developing Garland and Okoro and Lauri and Evan and Jarrett. And even Cedi. If he's reluctant to shoot in those 10 minutes, well... May as well let your defensive development guy play the defense instead.

We play a 8 man rotation when most teams play 10 and run our starters into the ground on a regular basis. I would like to start preserving our bigs because multiple 7ft players averaging 32-35min per game over a entire season can't be good for their long term health.

If we just shave 2-3 mins off of each current rotation player, it will create 10+ mins a night for 2 other guys to join the rotation.

Rubio is another guy who could see a few less mins per game. He's not young and he just spent the entire summer playing for his national team. He's played a looooot of basketball in the past year, the Cavs shouldn't run him into the ground this early in the year since he's essentially getting starters mins. I would like for his 28-29 mins per game come down to around 24-25. Allen needs to go from 34-35 down to 31-32.

You do that with all 8 guys and it not only keeps them fresh and a better chance at being healthy, but it also allows Wade/Windler/Stevens to actually have a role on this team for their own growth.

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

To start the 2nd/4th quarters the Cavs can easily sneak Windler/Wade onto the court for 5 mins allowing Allen/Rubio/Garland/Okoro to get a few more mins. of rest before coming back in.

[jbk1234]

We play a 8 man rotation when most teams play 10 and run our starters into the ground on a regular basis. I would like to start preserving our bigs because multiple 7ft players averaging 32-35min per game over a entire season can't be good for their long term health.

If we just shave 2-3 mins off of each current rotation player, it will create 10+ mins a night for 2 other guys to join the rotation.

Rubio is another guy who could see a few less mins per game. He's not young and he just spent the entire summer playing for his national team. He's played a looooot of basketball in the past year, the Cavs shouldn't run him into the ground this early in the year since he's essentially getting starters mins. I would like for his 28-29 mins per game come down to around 24-25. Allen needs to go from 34-35 down to 31-32.

You do that with all 8 guys and it not only keeps them fresh and a better chance at being healthy, but it also allows Wade/Windler/Stevens to actually have a role on this team for their own growth.

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

To start the 2nd/4th quarters the Cavs can easily sneak Windler/Wade onto the court for 5 mins allowing Allen/Rubio/Garland/Okoro to get a few more mins. of rest before coming back in.

Also, if someone gets injured or fouls out in the post season, you don't want to have to knock the dust off of guys like Wade and Windler before sending them in.

[toooskies]

We play a 8 man rotation when most teams play 10 and run our starters into the ground on a regular basis. I would like to start preserving our bigs because multiple 7ft players averaging 32-35min per game over a entire season can't be good for their long term health.

If we just shave 2-3 mins off of each current rotation player, it will create 10+ mins a night for 2 other guys to join the rotation.

Rubio is another guy who could see a few less mins per game. He's not young and he just spent the entire summer playing for his national team. He's played a looooot of basketball in the past year, the Cavs shouldn't run him into the ground this early in the year since he's essentially getting starters mins. I would like for his 28-29 mins per game come down to around 24-25. Allen needs to go from 34-35 down to 31-32.

You do that with all 8 guys and it not only keeps them fresh and a better chance at being healthy, but it also allows Wade/Windler/Stevens to actually have a role on this team for their own growth.

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

I'm just saying that if you end up taking a few minutes from all our best guys and best lineups and give those minutes to noticeably worse players you're going to play worse basketball. Our team isn't particularly deep. Wade, Stevens, and Windler are (or are expected to be) above replacement level but not by all that much.

I'm fine with playoff-type rotations against playoff-level teams, which has been most of our games this year. Our young core guys need high-pressure reps against the best teams in the league as often as possible, given most of the roster has barely seen the playoffs. I'm more comfortable with expanded rotations against, say, Sacramento on the second night of a back-to-back.

[LivingLegend]

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

To start the 2nd/4th quarters the Cavs can easily sneak Windler/Wade onto the court for 5 mins allowing Allen/Rubio/Garland/Okoro to get a few more mins. of rest before coming back in.

Also, if someone gets injured or fouls out in the post season, you don't want to have to knock the dust off of guys like Wade and Windler before sending them in.

Right, the Cavs have remained pretty healthy for the last 2 months compared to other teams. If somebody goes down, or gets Covid, I dont want it to kill the entire team because we havent prepared Wade, Windler, ect to play. You need to be able o play 10 guys and have confidence in them every night.

[LivingLegend]

OK, let's get Rubio down to 24-25. Are you taking away his crunch time minutes (and if so, who gets them?), or reducing his on-court time with Garland to pretty much only crunch time? Assuming you're not giving minutes to Pangos, so you need one of Garland/Rubio on the court at all times.

Let's get Allen down to 31-32. So that's less time with both him and Mobley on the court? Or we're playing Ed Davis or Tacko Fall spot minutes? Also, with reduced court time for Allen, he probably doesn't get the volume he needs to sniff the all-star game.

The problem is that Stevens is a SF and we don't have minutes there unless we move away from Tall Ball; Wade is a PF and we don't really have minutes there since Mobley/Love are ideal at the 4; Windler is a SG and while we have minutes there, it brings us down to one ballhandler on the court for most of the game unless he's taking minutes from Okoro.

I could see a more relaxed rotation post-ASG if we can put some distance between us and the play-in teams. But the young guys can handle starter minutes-- every player in our 8-man rotation has logged starter minutes before besides Mobley and Love is the only one I'm not totally comfortable giving starter minutes now.

Or maybe the easing schedule gives us more garbage time at the end of games so that the end of the bench absorbs a few minutes that way?

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

I'm just saying that if you end up taking a few minutes from all our best guys and best lineups and give those minutes to noticeably worse players you're going to play worse basketball. Our team isn't particularly deep. Wade, Stevens, and Windler are (or are expected to be) above replacement level but not by all that much.

I'm fine with playoff-type rotations against playoff-level teams, which has been most of our games this year. Our young core guys need high-pressure reps against the best teams in the league as often as possible, given most of the roster has barely seen the playoffs. I'm more comfortable with expanded rotations against, say, Sacramento on the second night of a back-to-back.

But every team has to deal with that. Teams dont play their 7 or 8 best players all the time just because their 9-10th guys are noticeably worse. Its just a part of the game and thats why the really good teams tend to be really deep. Teams have to play their 9-10th guys because its required to keep your top 5-8 healthy and rested.

I also think we are selling some of these guys short too. I have seen enough of Wade to know he is a quality rotation player who plays good defense and can get cooking on offense. Windler was a guy you traded UP in the draft to get in the 1st round, so obviously the organization believes in what he can bring. You just need to actually play the guys. Nobody gets better by sitting on the bench.

Now that we have a winning enviorment it would be a great time to let Wade/Windler get out there because they are now playing it good conditions for actual player growth. Not like last year when it was the blind leading the blind and nobody improving on a 22 win team.

[toooskies]

I think your overthinking the rotations playing time. Reducing Rubio/Allen/ect playing time by 2-3 mins per game is not going to cause some earth shattering crack in the rotations. The Cavs are more than capable of running with a wing/big heavy lineup with no Garland/Rubio on the court for a whopping 5 total mins if need be.

Osman can handle the ball and bring it up, Okoro can handle the ball, Windler can handle the ball or even Kevin Love if he is on the court is plenty capable on conducting the offense for a few mins.

Almost every team in the NBA plays 10 man rotation when healthy, every night. Im sure the Cavs can figure out a way to get 2 more guys on the court for 10 min per game without collapsing the entire season.

Not to mention Garland is also injury prone, playing him maximum mins per night for 82 games is probably not the smartest idea. The Cavs need to be smart and now that the hardest part of the schedule is over and they got through it riding the same 8 guys as if it was the NBA Finals--they can afford now to take a step back and reevaluate playing time when the 9-20 teams start showing up on the schedule.

To start the 2nd/4th quarters the Cavs can easily sneak Windler/Wade onto the court for 5 mins allowing Allen/Rubio/Garland/Okoro to get a few more mins. of rest before coming back in.

Also, if someone gets injured or fouls out in the post season, you don't want to have to knock the dust off of guys like Wade and Windler before sending them in.

Right, the Cavs have remained pretty healthy for the last 2 months compared to other teams. If somebody goes down, or gets Covid, I dont want it to kill the entire team because we havent prepared Wade, Windler, ect to play. You need to be able o play 10 guys and have confidence in them every night.

We've already competed in a few games missing rotation guys due to illness/injury/COVID. Love and Markkanen were out for 8 games and Wade/Windler/Stevens all got extended run when that happened and did decently well against a brutal section of the schedule.

I'm fine with Windler getting minutes on the Charge until he's needed in the lineup. I'm fine with Wade and Stevens being situational guys who just need to stay ready.

[KuruptedCav]

Thoughts on Collin Sexton, Houston 2022 #2 , Spurs 2022 #2 to Dallas for Jalen Brunson & Dorian Finney-Smith.

Cavs get the backup PG who can score and run an offense; and a backup wing, and gets to preview them and sell them on the Cavs/Cleveland prior to free agency (if they earn that sales pitch).

Dallas consolidates 2 players into the opportunity to get a talent like Sexton to be Doncic’s running-mate, and who they have neither the cap nor draft assets to acquire otherwise. Helps remove them from the treadmill they are on.

Risky for both teams…


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[jbk1234]

Thoughts on Collin Sexton, Houston 2022 #2 , Spurs 2022 #2 to Dallas for Jalen Brunson & Dorian Finney-Smith.

Cavs get the backup PG who can score and run an offense; and a backup wing, and gets to preview them and sell them on the Cavs/Cleveland prior to free agency (if they earn that sales pitch).

Dallas consolidates 2 players into the opportunity to get a talent like Sexton to be Doncic’s running-mate, and who they have neither the cap nor draft assets to acquire otherwise. Helps remove them from the treadmill they are on.

Risky for both teams…


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I don't see the Mavs pulling the plug on their season, at least not yet. Maybe if Luka sprains an ankle before the deadline or something.

[Harper4Ferry?]

I guess we can get an 8.9m dollar DPE for Rubio, but the player would need to be on an expiring contract.

I mean it'll be obvious that we have this exception available and are looking to use it on a PG/Backup PG so
POSSIBLY the Rockets might give Wall a buyout and then we could use all of that money to sign him but he'd also actually have to want to come here. Or Dragic could get bought out and we'd have that exception to use on him. But every good buyout guy is likely to sign with the Nets or Lakers I'd guess.

We'd also have to ask for this exception by 1/15 and would have to cut or trade someone on our roster to get down to 14 people to use the DPE. Also we'd be going into the tax pretty significantly if we used all of the exception and didn't send any salary out in a separate trade.

Candidates anyways-
Delon Wright
Tyus Jones
Denis Schroeder(seems unlikely to be traded)
Aaron Holiday-not sure you can acquire a player coming off rookie scale with a DPE, but maybe we could use the one from the Javele trade.
Michael Carter Williams(if he's ever healthy)

There's not much under 8.9m tbh

[Harper4Ferry?]

Does Kyle Guy just suck or something? We had him on the charge, had an obvious pg need and now he's signed with the Heat.

[KuruptedCav]

Does Kyle Guy just suck or something? We had him on the charge, had an obvious pg need and now he's signed with the Heat.

He’s a shooting guard in a small point guard’s body, he’s putting on weight and adding muscle, but still learning to play with opponent height/strength. But, he knows how to reach the bottom of the net, so we’ll see if the rest of the skills catch up.


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[PhillyFan11]

Sixers fan coming in peace…

Curious to what Cavs fans would think of a trade for Tobias Harris?
Kevin Love and Okoro for Tobias Harris and Shake Milton (not selling him as great but can play respectable minutes to fill in for Rubio)

Not sure if you guys are still very high on Okoro and this is laughable? Or if you’d welcome an all-star level talent (even if overpaid) in Harris that would actually be a good fit between Garland and Mobley. Thoughts?

[Harper4Ferry?]

nope and adios

[KuruptedCav]

How we feeling about Rondo in the Rubio role? For a second, I think they could do worse.


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