Trade Ideas - Part 2

[Merc_Porto]

I think is quite obvious that Minnesota are not going to give Love to Cleveland without Wiggins (Thank GOD - from a prespective of Minnesota)

And Cleveland will not give Wiggins for K.Love in a deal.

Who has the leverage between this 2 teams ? Nobody IMO.
Minnesota has no leverage because Love is in hes final year of contract, and needs to trade him or we can losing him fo nothing.

Cleveland has no leverage because if they dont trade for K.Love, K.Love 'will never go to Cleveland in free agency, because he wants the Lakers, and lets face, if is not the Lakers, he is going to the Knicks or Warriors, Boston, Chicago before Cleveland.
And if you want play the game of free agency with K.Love, you cant either, because you guys cant offer $$$$$$ in FA, when you have Irving, Lebron, Wiggins. Only if you trade for him.

If you beleive you can win tittles right now with Wiggins and Lebron, keep him (Wiggins).

So lets move on, both parts.

Troll alert.

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

[Merc_Porto]

If it is clear to Flip Saunders that we are not getting Wiggins in any deal, and the Cavs cant find a 3rd team, i think Flip or keep Love and try (Like happend with LA Aldridge in Portland) or trade him for any other place, like Boston or the Warriors if they give K.Thompson, Boston package is going to be there all the time, they need a Superstar with urgency.

And Cmon, Benett or T.Thompson + Waiters + some protected picks are not enought at all for K.Love.

I watch Cleveland a few times last season, and they are good players, but nothing more than that. Nothing special.
Boston is a better package by a mile. And they can take 1 or 2 of our bad contracts. Everybody knows that, and you guys know that too.

But Smart, Olynk and Brooklyn picks are? Waiters is by far the best player out of the group and Cleveland can offer more picks. Look do yourself a favor before you get banned, you're clearly here to troll, you're clearly not welcome here, now kindly gtfo.

Easy, the picks have high value, and Smart is going to better than Waiters. I think. Its just my opinion.
Sully or KO, way better than Waiters or KO, than is so easy to chose. I dont get it.

[OhioGuy216]

I think is quite obvious that Minnesota are not going to give Love to Cleveland without Wiggins (Thank GOD - from a prespective of Minnesota)

And Cleveland will not give Wiggins for K.Love in a deal.

Who has the leverage between this 2 teams ? Nobody IMO.
Minnesota has no leverage because Love is in hes final year of contract, and needs to trade him or we can losing him fo nothing.

Cleveland has no leverage because if they dont trade for K.Love, K.Love 'will never go to Cleveland in free agency, because he wants the Lakers, and lets face, if is not the Lakers, he is going to the Knicks or Warriors, Boston, Chicago before Cleveland.
And if you want play the game of free agency with K.Love, you cant either, because you guys cant offer $$$$$$ in FA, when you have Irving, Lebron, Wiggins. Only if you trade for him.

If you beleive you can win tittles right now with Wiggins and Lebron, keep him (Wiggins).

So lets move on, both parts.

Troll alert.

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

Ignore him. He's our resident Forrest Gump.

I understand where you are coming from bro. It will be interesting to see how the Wolves handle this. We obviously fumbled with LBJ the first time we had him so hopefully everyone learned from our mistakes.

[Merc_Porto]

Here is an issue you keep forgetting. Kevin Love wants to be on a playoff team. Boston is not a playoff team. So if they try to trade him there he could simply tell Boston he is not re-signing long-term and you can forget that deal. GS and CLE are playoff teams Love would play for, so that's why both teams have leverage over Minnesota.

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

LOL Boston isn't a playoff team with Love.

In the East with Love and Rondo + Green + Bradley.
Cmon, saying Boston isnt a playoff team with Love, is like saying that Waiters is going to be a star.
LOL that is funny.

[BossHoggin]

If it is clear to Flip Saunders that we are not getting Wiggins in any deal, and the Cavs cant find a 3rd team, i think Flip or keep Love and try (Like happend with LA Aldridge in Portland) or trade him for any other place, like Boston or the Warriors if they give K.Thompson, Boston package is going to be there all the time, they need a Superstar with urgency.

And Cmon, Benett or T.Thompson + Waiters + some protected picks are not enought at all for K.Love.

I watch Cleveland a few times last season, and they are good players, but nothing more than that. Nothing special.
Boston is a better package by a mile. And they can take 1 or 2 of our bad contracts. Everybody knows that, and you guys know that too.

Here is an issue you keep forgetting. Kevin Love wants to be on a playoff team. Boston is not a playoff team. So if they try to trade him there he could simply tell Boston he is not re-signing long-term and you can forget that deal. GS and CLE are playoff teams Love would play for, so that's why both teams have leverage over Minnesota.

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

mercgold3, (and any future accounts by Flip Saunders), I think it is clear that Wiggins will be on Cleveland next year while Love will be in Los Angeles.

[CavsKSU25]

I think is quite obvious that Minnesota are not going to give Love to Cleveland without Wiggins (Thank GOD - from a prespective of Minnesota)

And Cleveland will not give Wiggins for K.Love in a deal.

Who has the leverage between this 2 teams ? Nobody IMO.
Minnesota has no leverage because Love is in hes final year of contract, and needs to trade him or we can losing him fo nothing.

Cleveland has no leverage because if they dont trade for K.Love, K.Love 'will never go to Cleveland in free agency, because he wants the Lakers, and lets face, if is not the Lakers, he is going to the Knicks or Warriors, Boston, Chicago before Cleveland.
And if you want play the game of free agency with K.Love, you cant either, because you guys cant offer $$$$$$ in FA, when you have Irving, Lebron, Wiggins. Only if you trade for him.

If you beleive you can win tittles right now with Wiggins and Lebron, keep him (Wiggins).

So lets move on, both parts.

Troll alert.

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

for one because you've trolled here before, second coming in here and telling us Love wont want to come here ot of FA or other teams clearly worse offers are better then ours. seriously you think an unproven rookie with a low ceiling (smart or randle in LA) is better then a 16 PPG SG with a higher ceiling is flat out laughable.

Hell Waiters is a better Assest then K. Thompson, they both had 16 PPG the difference is Waiters was more efficient getting more assist and 16 PPG on less shots per game.

[OhioGuy216]

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

LOL Boston isn't a playoff team with Love.

In the East with Love and Rondo + Green + Bradley.
Cmon, saying Boston isnt a playoff team with Love, is like saying that Waiters is going to be a star.
LOL that is funny.

They would be, but they'd be low seed fodder for Cle, Ind, Chi, or even Miami possibly. Not sure I'd invest 100 million for that. Ainge is a smart guy, he'll make a better decision than that.

[Merc_Porto]

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

mercgold3, (and any future accounts by Flip Saunders), I think it is clear that Wiggins will be on Cleveland next year while Love will be in Los Angeles.

I agree, that what is provaly going to happend, but i thinl with Love, you are contenders and favorites to win all the next 3years. Love is with 25 Yo. And Wiggins i think you are going to wait 2-3 season to make it happend.

[CavsKSU25]

If it is clear to Flip Saunders that we are not getting Wiggins in any deal, and the Cavs cant find a 3rd team, i think Flip or keep Love and try (Like happend with LA Aldridge in Portland) or trade him for any other place, like Boston or the Warriors if they give K.Thompson, Boston package is going to be there all the time, they need a Superstar with urgency.

And Cmon, Benett or T.Thompson + Waiters + some protected picks are not enought at all for K.Love.

I watch Cleveland a few times last season, and they are good players, but nothing more than that. Nothing special.
Boston is a better package by a mile. And they can take 1 or 2 of our bad contracts. Everybody knows that, and you guys know that too.

But Smart, Olynk and Brooklyn picks are? Waiters is by far the best player out of the group and Cleveland can offer more picks. Look do yourself a favor before you get banned, you're clearly here to troll, you're clearly not welcome here, now kindly gtfo.

Easy, the picks have high value, and Smart is going to better than Waiters. I think. Its just my opinion.
Sully or KO, way better than Waiters or KO, than is so easy to chose. I dont get it.

Smart wont be better then waiters, and neither Sully or KO have anything close to Bennetts ceiling.

[OhioGuy216]

Troll alert.

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

for one because you've trolled here before, second coming in here and telling us Love wont want to come here ot of FA or other teams clearly worse offers are better then ours. seriously you think an unproven rookie with a low ceiling (smart or randle in LA) is better then a 16 PPG SG with a higher ceiling is flat out laughable.

Hell Waiters is a better Assest then K. Thompson, they both had 16 PPG the difference is Waiters was more efficient getting more assist and 16 PPG on less shots per game.

Being a fan =/= trolling

Calling a fan a troll = trolling

[Merc_Porto]

Troll alert.

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

for one because you've trolled here before, second coming in here and telling us Love wont want to come here ot of FA or other teams clearly worse offers are better then ours. seriously you think an unproven rookie with a low ceiling (smart or randle in LA) is better then a 16 PPG SG with a higher ceiling is flat out laughable.

Hell Waiters is a better Assest then K. Thompson, they both had 16 PPG the difference is Waiters was more efficient getting more assist and 16 PPG on less shots per game.

Kevin Martin is better than K.Thompson and Waiters on stats, and we want to dump him.

[CavsKSU25]

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

LOL Boston isn't a playoff team with Love.

In the East with Love and Rondo + Green + Bradley.
Cmon, saying Boston isnt a playoff team with Love, is like saying that Waiters is going to be a star.
LOL that is funny.

Like I said, go away troll. Green? Rondo is always injured, and he's only getting older and will only miss more and more time. Boston was incredibly bad last year, a good part of their wins were very close wins.

[Merc_Porto]

In the East with Love and Rondo + Green + Bradley.
Cmon, saying Boston isnt a playoff team with Love, is like saying that Waiters is going to be a star.
LOL that is funny.

Like I said, go away troll. Green? Rondo is always injured, and he's only getting older and will only miss more and more time. Boston was incredibly bad last year, a good part of their wins were very close wins.

Im going away, but let me say to finish, that you talk like Cleveland was so good last season with the future superstars Waiters / Benett / T.Thompson in the East with K.Irving.
I wasnt troll by saying that K.Love will never go to Cleveland in free ageny, i was just saying the facts, K.Love if he was free agent he would never go to Minnesota (my team) / Cleveland / Milwaukee , and a lot more of another teams. Its a fact, you guys have Lebron on free ageny because is from there.
Ask J.Noah what he thinks about Cleveland.

[OhioGuy216]

Like I said, go away troll. Green? Rondo is always injured, and he's only getting older and will only miss more and more time. Boston was incredibly bad last year, a good part of their wins were very close wins.

Im going away, but let me say to finish, that you talk like Cleveland was so good last season with the future superstars Waiters / Benett / T.Thompson in the East with K.Irving.
I wasnt troll by saying that K.Love will never go to Cleveland in free ageny, i was just saying the facts, K.Love if he was free agent he would never go to Minnesota (my team) / Cleveland / Milwaukee , and a lot more of another teams. Its a fact, you guys have Lebron on free ageny because is from there.
Ask J.Noah what he thinks about Cleveland.

No reason to leave man, don't judge all of us by his responses. Most of us appreciate the debate. Thanks for stopping by.

[CavsKSU25]

Like I said, go away troll. Green? Rondo is always injured, and he's only getting older and will only miss more and more time. Boston was incredibly bad last year, a good part of their wins were very close wins.

Im going away, but let me say to finish, that you talk like Cleveland was so good last season with the future superstars Waiters / Benett / T.Thompson in the East with K.Irving.
I wasnt troll by saying that K.Love will never go to Cleveland in free ageny, i was just saying the facts, K.Love if he was free agent he would never go to Minnesota (my team) / Cleveland / Milwaukee , and a lot more of another teams. Its a fact, you guys have Lebron on free ageny because is from there.
Ask J.Noah what he thinks about Cleveland.

The difference is Cleveland has the best player in the world now, Boston doesn't and wouldn't even come close to that with Love. and yes it is trolling to say Love wouldn't sign in Cleveland, Tell us why Love would turn down a title contender playing with Lebron James if he could? This should be funny. of course he would turn down MInnesota/Milwaukee those teams aren't winning anything anytime soon. Glad you're taking you're trolling efforts elsewhere

[OsuCavsfan103]

You are forgetting something too, Boston with Love is playoff team and they have a lot of draft picks, and expiring contracts. And by the way, if you think the visit of Kevin Love to Boston was only vacations you are wrong, and why he doesnt want to go to Boston ? the most successful franchise in the NBA. With Danny Ainge.

Boston still may not be a playoff team with Love there, not if they lose Olynk and Smart etc. In fact I don't think they are. Especially not seeing the East got significantly better this off-season.

[jbk1234]

Why ? Because i have a different opinion ? We are talking about some ideas.
OK.

for one because you've trolled here before, second coming in here and telling us Love wont want to come here ot of FA or other teams clearly worse offers are better then ours. seriously you think an unproven rookie with a low ceiling (smart or randle in LA) is better then a 16 PPG SG with a higher ceiling is flat out laughable.

Hell Waiters is a better Assest then K. Thompson, they both had 16 PPG the difference is Waiters was more efficient getting more assist and 16 PPG on less shots per game.

Kevin Martin is better than K.Thompson and Waiters on stats, and we want to dump him.

Only if you exclude defense, clutch shooting, age and contract.

[Chello1]

You guys are loading up on wings all of a sudden. Ray, Ray will be signed soon as well. Does that mean a deal is coming down? How do you split the minutes up between all of these guys?

[OhioGuy216]

You guys are loading up on wings all of a sudden. Ray, Ray will be signed soon as well. Does that mean a deal is coming down? How do you split the minutes up between all of these guys?

See I think the opposite on Jesus Shuttlesworth.....we would not have signed Jones if he was coming.

[Chello1]

You guys are loading up on wings all of a sudden. Ray, Ray will be signed soon as well. Does that mean a deal is coming down? How do you split the minutes up between all of these guys?

See I think the opposite on Jesus Shuttlesworth.....we would not have signed Jones if he was coming.

LOL, now that is good humor! Jesus Shuttlesworth!