Trade Ideas

[JonFromVA]

Okay, so propose a trade that you believe makes the Cavs better with players on the back half of the roster.

There's always a chance we see one of Koby's out of the blue 3-way deals, but lots of luck predicting what that might be.

In the past, we've had cap space and/or picks to offer in those situations.

The main thing is we've got to give something to get something, but there's a whole lot of wiggle room there based on if there's a team that likes one our players, feels forced to move one of their players, or perhaps is just happy to get a shorter contract back for a longer one.

I do believe we have some second rounders we can use and a first round swap and a first round pick in the 2030's we can trade *if* an opportunity to do more than just shuffle the end of the roster deck chairs arises.

Not to mention, but the Cavs have made a number of trades that looked awful at the time, but improved as we got to learn more about the players we were receiving.

If Altman is doing his job, he'll be in talks with other teams over numerous possible trades that will be contingent on certain other things breaking one way or another. Sometimes nothing breaks our way, but tbd.

[toooskies]

Contemplating an Okoro for Larry Nance Jr. S&T... which may not go through until Atlanta can aggregate him with a second salary.

[jbk1234]

Contemplating an Okoro for Larry Nance Jr. S&T... which may not go through until Atlanta can aggregate him with a second salary.

Nance looked a little washed on Pelicans. I think his health issues/injuries have taken their toll.

[JujitsuFlip]

Contemplating an Okoro for Larry Nance Jr. S&T... which may not go through until Atlanta can aggregate him with a second salary.

His reunion has been floated a couple times here, i am all way out on the Cavs acquiring a 6'7" center.

Although i do like the idea of S&T Okoro for a center. Allen being the only real center on the roster, with his back-up starting next to him is concerning.

[JonFromVA]

Contemplating an Okoro for Larry Nance Jr. S&T... which may not go through until Atlanta can aggregate him with a second salary.

Nance looked a little washed on Pelicans. I think his health issues/injuries have taken their toll.

I wouldn't complain having him in the Tristan Thompson role. He really can't play a ton of minutes while dealing with Crones, but otoh, we''l surely have injuries at some point.

[JKiddy]

Okoro and a Top 5 protected future first for DFS in a S&T deal?

[JujitsuFlip]

Okoro and a Top 5 protected future first for DFS in a S&T deal?

No shot.


Cavs only have their 2031 first rounder as tradeable and they would be silly to trade it for an essentially expiring 31 year old DFS.

Throw in Cam Johnson and take Niang's contract, and now we have the outline of a deal i like.

[jbk1234]

Okoro and a Top 5 protected future first for DFS in a S&T deal?

Hard pass. I'm not sure DFS is better than Okoro.

[JKiddy]

So you think it will be DFS for Okoro and a 2nd round pick?

[toooskies]

So you think it will be DFS for Okoro and a 2nd round pick?

I am not sure what DFS's market is but Brooklyn should be better off with Okoro straight up in terms of long-term team-building. Unless of course they don't want Okoro on the books in which case I don't see them tying up their cap space for a 2nd.

I also don't know if the Cavs will be happy being slightly over the tax with DFS's salary and might try to dump Niang at the same time. The BYC rules mean that Okoro's S&T salary only counts as his previous year's salary going out and that may complicate the deal. Brooklyn has the trade exceptions to take on another salary, but they'll also likely want to stay out of the tax too. I couldn't find a clean way to make the Niang to BRK dump work as a two-teamer. That might've been with higher salary for Okoro than it's looking like now, though.

[jbk1234]

So you think it will be DFS for Okoro and a 2nd round pick?

I think that the Nets should kick in a couple 2nds so Niang can be off loaded to a 3rd team so the trade can be legal.

[ijspeelman]

May be worth calling up the Trailblazer for Duop Reath if we decide we need a new back-up center

They've got four centres on the books for next year and they may see him as the most likely trade bait (since Ayton will be hard to offload)

36% from 3 on 10 per 100 pos, 2.8 BLK%, positive AST/TOV for a center

[ijspeelman]

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If Donte was made available, is he someone the Cavs should target?

Since he was on the Bucks, I've wanted the Cavs to grab him. He's having a down year so far off of his best year in the NBA so I have no idea what his value would be.

[JujitsuFlip]

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If Donte was made available, is he someone the Cavs should target?

Since he was on the Bucks, I've wanted the Cavs to grab him. He's having a down year so far off of his best year in the NBA so I have no idea what his value would be.

What would it take to snag him is the question?

I like our 11 + Strus. I really don't wanna give anyone up. Kenny really has these guys thriving on the court together but everyone seems to get along off the court too.

[toooskies]

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If Donte was made available, is he someone the Cavs should target?

Since he was on the Bucks, I've wanted the Cavs to grab him. He's having a down year so far off of his best year in the NBA so I have no idea what his value would be.

What would it take to snag him is the question?

I like our 11 + Strus. I really don't wanna give anyone up. Kenny really has these guys thriving on the court together but everyone seems to get along off the court too.

Yeah, I don't have any interest in giving up value for DDV given we have Jerome and Merrill.

[JujitsuFlip]

Read on Twitter

If Donte was made available, is he someone the Cavs should target?

Since he was on the Bucks, I've wanted the Cavs to grab him. He's having a down year so far off of his best year in the NBA so I have no idea what his value would be.

What would it take to snag him is the question?

I like our 11 + Strus. I really don't wanna give anyone up. Kenny really has these guys thriving on the court together but everyone seems to get along off the court too.

Yeah, I don't have any interest in giving up value for DDV given we have Jerome and Merrill.

I'm with your take on the GB, let's see how the season plays out with injuries and fatigue. Then see if we need to make a move at the deadline or maybe on the waiver wire/buyout market like we have the past couple few seasons.

[JonFromVA]

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If Donte was made available, is he someone the Cavs should target?

Since he was on the Bucks, I've wanted the Cavs to grab him. He's having a down year so far off of his best year in the NBA so I have no idea what his value would be.

What would it take to snag him is the question?

I like our 11 + Strus. I really don't wanna give anyone up. Kenny really has these guys thriving on the court together but everyone seems to get along off the court too.

Yeah, I don't have any interest in giving up value for DDV given we have Jerome and Merrill.

Well, unless Ty Jerome and Altman have already figured out how we're going to retain him moving forward, we might actually consider trading him for someone we'd be able to keep. Alas, Ty is only making $2.5M, so, we'd need to add considerable additional salary to even consider DDV and Ty would likely need to go to a team with cap space that is interested in starting him and paying him more than the MLE next Summer.

[toooskies]

What would it take to snag him is the question?

I like our 11 + Strus. I really don't wanna give anyone up. Kenny really has these guys thriving on the court together but everyone seems to get along off the court too.

Yeah, I don't have any interest in giving up value for DDV given we have Jerome and Merrill.

Well, unless Ty Jerome and Altman have already figured out how we're going to retain him moving forward, we might actually consider trading him for someone we'd be able to keep. Alas, Ty is only making $2.5M, so, we'd need to add considerable additional salary to even consider DDV and Ty would likely need to go to a team with cap space that is interested in starting him and paying him more than the MLE next Summer.

Who is in a better position to retain Jerome than us after trading for him? He makes no more sense for another team than he does for us, unless a team like Brooklyn wants to use summer cap space on him. But they have no incentive to trade for him, they'll just wait for him to be a FA instead.

[JonFromVA]

Yeah, I don't have any interest in giving up value for DDV given we have Jerome and Merrill.

Well, unless Ty Jerome and Altman have already figured out how we're going to retain him moving forward, we might actually consider trading him for someone we'd be able to keep. Alas, Ty is only making $2.5M, so, we'd need to add considerable additional salary to even consider DDV and Ty would likely need to go to a team with cap space that is interested in starting him and paying him more than the MLE next Summer.

Who is in a better position to retain Jerome than us after trading for him? He makes no more sense for another team than he does for us, unless a team like Brooklyn wants to use summer cap space on him. But they have no incentive to trade for him, they'll just wait for him to be a FA instead.

The incentive would be the same incentive we've often used ... using those few months to convince ourselves and the player we're pursuing that we're a good fit.

I do think if nobody offers him more than the MLE, he'd be inclined to stay with us, but there are other factors like if another team is willing to make him a starter.

[jbk1234]

Well, unless Ty Jerome and Altman have already figured out how we're going to retain him moving forward, we might actually consider trading him for someone we'd be able to keep. Alas, Ty is only making $2.5M, so, we'd need to add considerable additional salary to even consider DDV and Ty would likely need to go to a team with cap space that is interested in starting him and paying him more than the MLE next Summer.

Who is in a better position to retain Jerome than us after trading for him? He makes no more sense for another team than he does for us, unless a team like Brooklyn wants to use summer cap space on him. But they have no incentive to trade for him, they'll just wait for him to be a FA instead.

The incentive would be the same incentive we've often used ... using those few months to convince ourselves and the player we're pursuing that we're a good fit.

I do think if nobody offers him more than the MLE, he'd be inclined to stay with us, but there are other factors like if another team is willing to make him a starter.

I don't know if he can maintain anywhere near his current level of production over the course of the season, but if he can, he's getting a lot more than the MLE. Trading him instead of losing him for nothing next summer isn't a decision we need to make now, but if we get to the deadline and there are multiple bidders, it's something you at least have to consider.