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Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025

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Re: Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025 

Post#21 » by toooskies » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:27 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Terrible loss but Kenny wants to rest guys down the stretch, so it is what it is.

Reffing is the main reason for the loss today, no exaggeration.

Adam Silver got what he wanted.


I didn't get to watch, but the free throws were 24-20 in favor of the Magic which doesn't seem awful. I know that both Banchero and Franz can be the beneficiaries of touch calls sometimes and if you don't let one team play defense, it impacts the gane more than indicated by the box score.

You're not going to win many games when Mitchell goes 9 for 28. You'll win fewer still if Mobley is out and Hunter goes 2 for 11. Any time Merrill wants to start shooting well again would also be great (2 for 8).
Yeah man, Banchero fouled two 3 point shooters, early, no calls. Wade missed the shot.

Franz did some weird out of bounds dance they didn't call, that led to a 3.

Allen fouled hard on his poster dunk, no call.

Tristan called for 2 touch fouls on Goga going for rebounds while Magic are in the bonus.

Jerome pushed out of bounds, called a turnover. Then Black knocks down back to back triples.

Mitchell's arms chopped, loses the ball, instant layup for the Magic.

Hunter called for his 4th foul once the Cavs held the Magic possession to a bricked shot, gave free throws on a bad call.

These are just off the top of my head. The Magic were allowed to play with a different level of physicality. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but i am positive Silver told Brothers and his crew to keep the game close.

24 turnovers is WAY too many but our ball handlers were getting mugged all game.

The box score shows 13 turnovers? Still on the high side but not awful.

The game came down to us missing way too many 3s after Orlando pivoted to trying to guard the interior after Allen was hot inside early.

But yes, the foul calls seemed one-sided all night. Tony Brothers was crew chief, surprise surprise. Even ESPN brought up the Allen dunk/foul at halftime.
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Re: Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025 

Post#22 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:27 pm

toooskies wrote:
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I didn't get to watch, but the free throws were 24-20 in favor of the Magic which doesn't seem awful. I know that both Banchero and Franz can be the beneficiaries of touch calls sometimes and if you don't let one team play defense, it impacts the gane more than indicated by the box score.

You're not going to win many games when Mitchell goes 9 for 28. You'll win fewer still if Mobley is out and Hunter goes 2 for 11. Any time Merrill wants to start shooting well again would also be great (2 for 8).
Yeah man, Banchero fouled two 3 point shooters, early, no calls. Wade missed the shot.

Franz did some weird out of bounds dance they didn't call, that led to a 3.

Allen fouled hard on his poster dunk, no call.

Tristan called for 2 touch fouls on Goga going for rebounds while Magic are in the bonus.

Jerome pushed out of bounds, called a turnover. Then Black knocks down back to back triples.

Mitchell's arms chopped, loses the ball, instant layup for the Magic.

Hunter called for his 4th foul once the Cavs held the Magic possession to a bricked shot, gave free throws on a bad call.

These are just off the top of my head. The Magic were allowed to play with a different level of physicality. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but i am positive Silver told Brothers and his crew to keep the game close.

24 turnovers is WAY too many but our ball handlers were getting mugged all game.

The box score shows 13 turnovers? Still on the high side but not awful.

The game came down to us missing way too many 3s after Orlando pivoted to trying to guard the interior after Allen was hot inside early.

But yes, the foul calls seemed one-sided all night. Tony Brothers was crew chief, surprise surprise. Even ESPN brought up the Allen dunk/foul at halftime.
Yeah, sorry meant 26 points off turnovers.

The shots were mostly good looks for our shooters. For some reason Garland and Mitchell kept ditching the offense in favor of iso, Hunter even had 1 or 2 iso bricks.

This is the 2nd game this season i have watched where we have trouble running our offense. The other was the OKC blowout on national TV.

Both against solid defensive teams who are allowed to be more physical than us.

I'm not worried about the Magic though, Mobley woulda helped a lot in that game. It was just a game we should not have lost but only the 11th of the season and now we have some tape for if we meet the Magic in round 1.
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Re: Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025 

Post#23 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:35 am

https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/3/18/24388365/cavs-nba-confirms-crucial-missed-call-cleveland-cavaliers-orlando-magic-donovan-mitchell

Key missed call, whata know. It's like i said, we got fouled all night with no whistle.

Oh well, onto the next, Adam Silver got what he wanted.
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Re: Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025 

Post#24 » by JonFromVA » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:36 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/3/18/24388365/cavs-nba-confirms-crucial-missed-call-cleveland-cavaliers-orlando-magic-donovan-mitchell

Key missed call, whata know. It's like i said, we got fouled all night with no whistle.

Oh well, onto the next, Adam Silver got what he wanted.


Some of the things they don't correct are fascinating:

00:50.9 Foul: Offensive Kentavious Caldwell-Pope De'Andre Hunter CNC Video
Comment: Caldwell-Pope (ORL) has an arm extended in Hunter's (CLE) path, but Hunter immediately switches on to him and the contact is marginal.


And by "arm extended" they mean he wrapped his arm around Hunter and prevented him from sticking with the ball handler, but since Mitchell was able to switch ... it's all cool?
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Re: Game 67: Magic @ Cavs 3/16/2025 

Post#25 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:59 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/3/18/24388365/cavs-nba-confirms-crucial-missed-call-cleveland-cavaliers-orlando-magic-donovan-mitchell

Key missed call, whata know. It's like i said, we got fouled all night with no whistle.

Oh well, onto the next, Adam Silver got what he wanted.


Some of the things they don't correct are fascinating:

00:50.9 Foul: Offensive Kentavious Caldwell-Pope De'Andre Hunter CNC Video
Comment: Caldwell-Pope (ORL) has an arm extended in Hunter's (CLE) path, but Hunter immediately switches on to him and the contact is marginal.


And by "arm extended" they mean he wrapped his arm around Hunter and prevented him from sticking with the ball handler, but since Mitchell was able to switch ... it's all cool?
Yeah man it was all game. Like the players said postgame, it is why there is a 7 game series. They said "shooting variance" but they really mean a garbage reffing crew.

I am confident we can beat the Magic in a 7 game seires but they play so damn cheap i would prefer they end up the 7th or 9th seed, if we stay at 1.

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