Trade Ideas

[jbk1234]

Niang is still unplayable in certain matchups and we're a Wade injury away from disaster pants. Denver scored at will when Niang was on the floor last night.

Niang's minutes were severely cut in the playoffs, i assume that happens again.

We all hope for a healthy Wade in the spring, it just never happens.

I am not sure who they can sign or trade for cheaply. I assume someone the caliber of D. Jones (either one), Morris, Rondo, Green, Ed Davis, RoLo, Neto, Pangos.

Denver scored at will all night long, but it didn't matter; and the reason why it didn't matter was because of our 3pt firepower. Way too early to throw Niang off the bus given the way the team has been playing.

LeVert and Niang are leading the team in OnCourt +/- ... Kenny has turned our little world upside down.

It didn't matter that night, but all of Niang, LeVert, Tyrome, and even Merrill have all had off shooting nights. It will very much matter on those nights. Niang struggles against athletic and tall backups. Always has and always will. He had hope against Watson the same way he had no hope against Isaac in the Magic series.

The Cavs need to have a plan for matchups like that doesn't involve relying upon large data sets from an 82-game season. At best, they're irrelevant and at worst, they'll lead you astray. I'd like ro see Thor get some run against teams that can bring guys like that in off the bench before the deadline.

[JonFromVA]

Niang's minutes were severely cut in the playoffs, i assume that happens again.

We all hope for a healthy Wade in the spring, it just never happens.

I am not sure who they can sign or trade for cheaply. I assume someone the caliber of D. Jones (either one), Morris, Rondo, Green, Ed Davis, RoLo, Neto, Pangos.

Denver scored at will all night long, but it didn't matter; and the reason why it didn't matter was because of our 3pt firepower. Way too early to throw Niang off the bus given the way the team has been playing.

LeVert and Niang are leading the team in OnCourt +/- ... Kenny has turned our little world upside down.

It didn't matter that night, but all of Niang, LeVert, Tyrome, and even Merrill have all had off shooting nights. It will very much matter on those nights. Niang struggles against athletic and tall backups. Always has and always will. He had hope against Watson the same way he had no hope against Isaac in the Magic series.

The Cavs need to have a plan for matchups like that doesn't involve relying upon large data sets from an 82-game season. At best, they're irrelevant and at worst, they'll lead you astray. I'd like ro see Thor get some run against teams that can bring guys like that in off the bench before the deadline.

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

[jbk1234]

Denver scored at will all night long, but it didn't matter; and the reason why it didn't matter was because of our 3pt firepower. Way too early to throw Niang off the bus given the way the team has been playing.

LeVert and Niang are leading the team in OnCourt +/- ... Kenny has turned our little world upside down.

It didn't matter that night, but all of Niang, LeVert, Tyrome, and even Merrill have all had off shooting nights. It will very much matter on those nights. Niang struggles against athletic and tall backups. Always has and always will. He had hope against Watson the same way he had no hope against Isaac in the Magic series.

The Cavs need to have a plan for matchups like that doesn't involve relying upon large data sets from an 82-game season. At best, they're irrelevant and at worst, they'll lead you astray. I'd like ro see Thor get some run against teams that can bring guys like that in off the bench before the deadline.

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

[toooskies]

It didn't matter that night, but all of Niang, LeVert, Tyrome, and even Merrill have all had off shooting nights. It will very much matter on those nights. Niang struggles against athletic and tall backups. Always has and always will. He had hope against Watson the same way he had no hope against Isaac in the Magic series.

The Cavs need to have a plan for matchups like that doesn't involve relying upon large data sets from an 82-game season. At best, they're irrelevant and at worst, they'll lead you astray. I'd like ro see Thor get some run against teams that can bring guys like that in off the bench before the deadline.

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

Yeah, I’d have made a move for DFS. But now I’m not sure what’s available that’s particularly appealing.

[jbk1234]

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

Yeah, I’d have made a move for DFS. But now I’m not sure what’s available that’s particularly appealing.

There's Rui for Strus, LeVert, or Okoro (assuming the Lakers would agree), but I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's always difficult to judge guys who don't get real run because you're not watching what happens in practice, but in limited minutes, Thor has looked like the better option in those matchups to me. If it's another Diakite situation where the first time the guy gets real run he's awful, okay.

[Niko23]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

[jbk1234]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

The last guy the Cavs should trade is Wade. Once again, he's our most important bench player and we're not as competitive when he goes down.

[toooskies]

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

Yeah, I’d have made a move for DFS. But now I’m not sure what’s available that’s particularly appealing.

There's Rui for Strus, LeVert, or Okoro (assuming the Lakers would agree), but I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's always difficult to judge guys who don't get real run because you're not watching what happens in practice, but in limited minutes, Thor has looked like the better option in those matchups to me. If it's another Diakite situation where the first time the guy gets real run he's awful, okay.

Rui isn’t a particularly good defender either, though. And to get him you need to give up guys who may be better than him and definitely better value contracts.

[JujitsuFlip]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

What targets did you have in mind?

[jbk1234]

Yeah, I’d have made a move for DFS. But now I’m not sure what’s available that’s particularly appealing.

There's Rui for Strus, LeVert, or Okoro (assuming the Lakers would agree), but I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's always difficult to judge guys who don't get real run because you're not watching what happens in practice, but in limited minutes, Thor has looked like the better option in those matchups to me. If it's another Diakite situation where the first time the guy gets real run he's awful, okay.

Rui isn’t a particularly good defender either, though. And to get him you need to give up guys who may be better than him and definitely better value contracts.

The thing about Niang defensively, is that taller athletic bigs can go around him or just shoot over him. Rui at least can make them go around him. He can offer some weak side help at the rim as well.

[jbk1234]

Nance is out with a fractured wrist.

[Niko23]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

The last guy the Cavs should trade is Wade. Once again, he's our most important bench player and we're not as competitive when he goes down.

You are higher on him than I. My guess is he folds in the playoffs but his contract is too valuable to let go. I think Levert is easily the best bench player.

[Niko23]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

What targets did you have in mind?

Well you got me there. I have not followed other teams this year like I have in the past. I also realize disrupting this chemistry right now is insane. I am just concerned about how these players will compete when it matters most.

[jbk1234]

Was just thinking about how we could trade in some of our nickels and dimes for a quarter. Niang, Levert, Sam, Strus, Wade, Issac, Ty, are all great to have depth but we know when playoff time comes the role players will shrink.

The last guy the Cavs should trade is Wade. Once again, he's our most important bench player and we're not as competitive when he goes down.

You are higher on him than I. My guess is he folds in the playoffs but his contract is too valuable to let go. I think Levert is easily the best bench player.

When I say most important, I mean most important. If Levert twists an ankle, any of Strus, Jerome, or even Okoro can replace him and the Cavs will remain competitive. When Wade is out, we end up playing Niang, a buyout forward, or no forward at all off the bench (as was the case in Game 7 against the Magic).

[JujitsuFlip]

Nance is out with a fractured wrist.

Like i always say when junior's name comes up, i have zero interest in a 6'7" center. So, no loss with him requiring surgery.

[JonFromVA]

It didn't matter that night, but all of Niang, LeVert, Tyrome, and even Merrill have all had off shooting nights. It will very much matter on those nights. Niang struggles against athletic and tall backups. Always has and always will. He had hope against Watson the same way he had no hope against Isaac in the Magic series.

The Cavs need to have a plan for matchups like that doesn't involve relying upon large data sets from an 82-game season. At best, they're irrelevant and at worst, they'll lead you astray. I'd like ro see Thor get some run against teams that can bring guys like that in off the bench before the deadline.

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

For 3 years the Cavs were ill prepared for the playoffs thanks to injuries and our head coach not knowing how to prepare a team, so, don't cling too hard to the one game where Niang was a negative. I know you hate him, but Georges has been playing great this season, have some patience.

[JonFromVA]

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

Yeah, I’d have made a move for DFS. But now I’m not sure what’s available that’s particularly appealing.

I've only watched DFS when we've played his team, and I guess he's having a good season; but he hasn't impressed me since he was with Dallas. He doesn't seem to make much of an impact - at least when he's played the Cavs.

[jbk1234]

You're used to planning for when our players get exposed by mismatches, but we just beat the Nuggets in Denver with Sam Merrill as our starting SF and Sammy was +10 in the game. I'd be happy to see Thor get some more run too, but I trust Kenny to actually use our various weapons in clever ways.

Regular season numbers are not irrelevant, there's just context to them which a good coach will take in to account and be ready to adapt to on the fly.

If you can't tell how much better Georges all around game and fit with the Cavs have been this season, then you need to examine your hate blinders.

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

For 3 years the Cavs were ill prepared for the playoffs thanks to injuries and our head coach not knowing how to prepare a team, so, don't cling too hard to the one game where Niang was a negative. I know you hate him, but Georges has been playing great this season, have some patience.

I don't hate him, but he was unplayable in the playoffs and that, coupled with the Denver game, concerns me. No amount of preparation is going to change the fact that he simply lacks the physical attributes to handle guys like Isaac and Watson.

[JonFromVA]

For four years in a row, the Cavs have taken comfort in regular season performances and it hasn't served them well in the playoffs. Anticipating matchup problems and being proactive is critical to coaching (and team building) in the NBA.

The Nuggets were without Aaron Gordon and Westbrook has zero interest in navigating a PNR. The Cavs got a lot of wide open looks as a result. Merrill was 3 for 4 from deep. None of that is likely to happen in the playoffs.

Niang has played better this season but that's irrelevant as to whether he breaks our defense when the opposing team has a guy like Watson or Isaac. He was -4 in a game we won by 15. Wade was +19. The Cavs need a Plan B at the ready for those matchups especially with Wade being an injury risk. If they've already decided it's not Thor, they need a trade. If they're not sure, then Thor should get run in those matchups.

For 3 years the Cavs were ill prepared for the playoffs thanks to injuries and our head coach not knowing how to prepare a team, so, don't cling too hard to the one game where Niang was a negative. I know you hate him, but Georges has been playing great this season, have some patience.

I don't hate him, but he was unplayable in the playoffs and that, coupled with the Denver game, concerns me. No amount of preparation is going to change the fact that he simply lacks the physical attributes to handle guys like Isaac and Watson.

And yet, if we play to his strengths (aka get him good looks and using his gravity) and he's making his shots, everything can (and would have) looked very different.

[jbk1234]

For 3 years the Cavs were ill prepared for the playoffs thanks to injuries and our head coach not knowing how to prepare a team, so, don't cling too hard to the one game where Niang was a negative. I know you hate him, but Georges has been playing great this season, have some patience.

I don't hate him, but he was unplayable in the playoffs and that, coupled with the Denver game, concerns me. No amount of preparation is going to change the fact that he simply lacks the physical attributes to handle guys like Isaac and Watson.

And yet, if we play to his strengths (aka get him good looks and using his gravity) and he's making his shots, everything can (and would have) looked very different.

Even if I were to grant all of that, and you're asking a lot of the Cavs to game plan around the 10th guy in the rotation in a playoff series, not one thing would've changed on the defensive end (or with respect to rebounding). Like most role players, Niang is a tool in the tool box and he's not suitable for every job. If a role player is getting killed in a specific matchup, subbing in a different role player is almost always the correct answer.