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Nirvana wrote:Raptors probably should have taken Andre Iguodala over Rafael Araujo... and then taken Bynum over Villenueva, and then Aldridge over Bargnani...
Then you'd have Iguodala, Aldridge, and Bynum. Oh geez... what happened?
spade57 wrote:gordito wrote:SaiCLE wrote:Just because i don't rage like a child, nor do i call for a lynch mob for grants head when ever i don't get what i want doesn't mean I'm a homer. And the reason why i don't want to argue is because it's useless i have my opinions and you have yours. There's a difference from constructive criticism and just bit*hing constantly, It's tiresome...just let it go and move on
How I relate to any of that (raging like a child, calling for Grant's head, b1tching constantly) is beyond me.
The fact that YOU don't regret the pick simply because GRANT spent a year scouting him is the perfect definition of homer.
Again, read this very slowly: It's okay to have doubts that a player my team drafted MIGHT not be successful.
So I just read about 5 pages of Dion talk. I don't think there's anything wrong with what Gordito says. NOTHING is wrong with not liking your franchises draft choice, simple. With that said I'm not a huge fan of Waiters either. Huge reach at 4 imo. I remember when I saw the rumors night b4 the draft. I was hoping you guys would reach for him at 4 ( reminiscent of 2011). Waiters excels at driving and getting his own shot. But he doesn't look very good at it atm. Moral is don't write him off just yet. Very early. But he looks very underwhelming and very undersized for a 2 guard.
Dude just stop, I specifically said i have my own opinion on the situation. Geez can i at least be excited about Dion without being called a homer, because my opinion doesn't fit the majority of knee jerk reaction 
Nirvana wrote:Haha, we're well aware of our shortcomings here in Cleveland. The point is, the draft is such a crapshoot that it's really annoying to constantly hear, "Why didn't you take Jonas and Barnes.... Why didn't you pair up Jonas with Robinson this year?"
I'll be fine looking back on things once these guys have played in the NBA, and if Barnes is great and Waiters isn't, then of course we will feel like we screwed up. I just don't like having everyone pile on when we don't even know the outcome yet.
Ya feel me?
Nirvana wrote:Haha, we're well aware of our shortcomings here in Cleveland. The point is, the draft is such a crapshoot that it's really annoying to constantly hear, "Why didn't you take Jonas and Barnes.... Why didn't you pair up Jonas with Robinson this year?"
I'll be fine looking back on things once these guys have played in the NBA, and if Barnes is great and Waiters isn't, then of course we will feel like we screwed up. I just don't like having everyone pile on when we don't even know the outcome yet.
Ya feel me?
ball teacher wrote:Nirvana wrote:Haha, we're well aware of our shortcomings here in Cleveland. The point is, the draft is such a crapshoot that it's really annoying to constantly hear, "Why didn't you take Jonas and Barnes.... Why didn't you pair up Jonas with Robinson this year?"
I'll be fine looking back on things once these guys have played in the NBA, and if Barnes is great and Waiters isn't, then of course we will feel like we screwed up. I just don't like having everyone pile on when we don't even know the outcome yet.
Ya feel me?
This is just the opinion of an outsider, but how do you justify using the 4th pick overall in the draft to select a player you didn't even workout? Not only that, he didn't even start in college. Not only that, he's not tall enough or explosive enough to be a SG. I understand why some of your fans might be pissed, I've watched him in the summer league, he's out of shape (I dont know how the heck you let yourself get out of shape when you set to make millions of dollars from being a athlete) he hasn't shot very well, and he's having trouble defending. On top of all that, his knees were sore so he couldn't compete.
Barnes, Rivers, Drummond, Ross, and Lamb were all passed up for this guy, your fans have a right to have strong reviews of his game, I'd critique everything about him too and from what I've seen so far, my assessment wouldnt be too favorable. I hope he does well though an I hope Cleveland gets back to being very competitive.
three6mofia wrote:Since when is dion waiters not explosive? Do you watch college basketball or are u ignorant? Also Eric Gordon, Dwyane Wade, Ben Gordon and marcus thornton are all 6'4. You make a terrible and ignorant argument my trollish friend.
Baseline Runner wrote:Everyone over at realcavsfans forum are mostly pleased with this pick (of course at first they were shocked like everyone else), those guys know their stuff inside and out. Give the kid a chance before knocking him.
UncleDrew wrote: I get Buckets!
truwizfan4evr wrote:I'm going to ask this question again do you regret Drafting Waiter at 4? And wish you could of moved up to pick number 2 and Drafted Bradley Beal?
three6mofia wrote:truwizfan4evr wrote:I'm going to ask this question again do you regret Drafting Waiter at 4? And wish you could of moved up to pick number 2 and Drafted Bradley Beal?
Actually i do. If anything i feel that waiters is actually a better fit with you guys because even though he is not the sharp shooting spot up threat beal is, waiters handle and passing are much better. I think you guys would be great with a 2 guard that can take a little bit of the pressure of distributing off of john wall who seemed to struggle as a main distributr last season. But yes Beal is the better prospect but not by much.
three6mofia wrote:truwizfan4evr wrote:I'm going to ask this question again do you regret Drafting Waiter at 4? And wish you could of moved up to pick number 2 and Drafted Bradley Beal?
Actually i do. If anything i feel that waiters is actually a better fit with you guys because even though he is not the sharp shooting spot up threat beal is, waiters handle and passing are much better. I think you guys would be great with a 2 guard that can take a little bit of the pressure of distributing off of john wall who seemed to struggle as a main distributr last season. But yes Beal is the better prospect but not by much.
