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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#241 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:19 pm

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I'm good with Cedi on a minimum deal. Your minimum deal guys only need to be able to give you regular season minutes. The problem as a playoff team is you can't waste $8M on Niang.
I'm good on Cedi if LeVert is on the squad, i don't need 2 guys in my rotation, even if it is 10 or 12 guys who are that hot and cold.

Especially given Tyson's college coach called Kenny and said he should be in tje rotation and Kenny kind of sneezed at the idea, we don't need some near 30 year old dude stealing minutes on our team.

If we're getting a reunion for a Cavs player on the vet min, let's go with Marcus Morris, at least he fills a need in the big rotation. Shoot, I'd take a flyer on Donyell Marshall, since he can play the big man.


I mean Tyson's play will determine whether he's in the rotation. We're not rebuilding. If a guy needs developmental reps, he can get them in the G League. Also, a college coach has no business calling up a pro coach and telling him to put a rookie into the rotation. Let's see if Tyson can beat out Bates on the SL depth chart before we start allocating regular season rotation minutes to him.
Mark Madsen is just advocating for his guy, nothing wrong with that. He's a former late 1st rounder himself, I'm sure he understands how difficult minutes are to come by in the league.

Ah, so you've come around to the idea that one of Bates or Tyson will be getting opportunities under our new forward thinking head coach, alright then, i knew they would grow on you lol building the bench is in full effect.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#242 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:33 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:I'm good on Cedi if LeVert is on the squad, i don't need 2 guys in my rotation, even if it is 10 or 12 guys who are that hot and cold.

Especially given Tyson's college coach called Kenny and said he should be in tje rotation and Kenny kind of sneezed at the idea, we don't need some near 30 year old dude stealing minutes on our team.

If we're getting a reunion for a Cavs player on the vet min, let's go with Marcus Morris, at least he fills a need in the big rotation. Shoot, I'd take a flyer on Donyell Marshall, since he can play the big man.


I mean Tyson's play will determine whether he's in the rotation. We're not rebuilding. If a guy needs developmental reps, he can get them in the G League. Also, a college coach has no business calling up a pro coach and telling him to put a rookie into the rotation. Let's see if Tyson can beat out Bates on the SL depth chart before we start allocating regular season rotation minutes to him.
Mark Madsen is just advocating for his guy, nothing wrong with that. He's a former late 1st rounder himself, I'm sure he understands how difficult minutes are to come by in the league.

Ah, so you've come around to the idea that one of Bates or Tyson will be getting opportunities under our new forward thinking head coach, alright then, i knew they would grow on you lol building the bench is in full effect.


You advocate to get your player drafted, once that's happened you step back.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#243 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 3, 2024 10:36 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#244 » by KuruptedCav » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:51 am

jbk1234 wrote:
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I mean Tyson's play will determine whether he's in the rotation. We're not rebuilding. If a guy needs developmental reps, he can get them in the G League. Also, a college coach has no business calling up a pro coach and telling him to put a rookie into the rotation. Let's see if Tyson can beat out Bates on the SL depth chart before we start allocating regular season rotation minutes to him.
Mark Madsen is just advocating for his guy, nothing wrong with that. He's a former late 1st rounder himself, I'm sure he understands how difficult minutes are to come by in the league.

Ah, so you've come around to the idea that one of Bates or Tyson will be getting opportunities under our new forward thinking head coach, alright then, i knew they would grow on you lol building the bench is in full effect.


You advocate to get your player drafted, once that's happened you step back.

Do you have a lot of peer conversations about employees transferring, people you’ve mentored, kids you’ve coached, etc.?

This is a pretty standard conversation when you are asked for your opinion of someone you believe in and wish you had more time with.

I doubt he’s telling Atkinson that he has to be in his rotation, I’d bet Kenny was asking for an honest assessment now that what he was saying wouldn’t impact his draft slot. Coach may have gotten excited, but likely just gave his honest opinion.


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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#246 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 4, 2024 2:30 pm

Looking at FA out there i think i would like one of Metu, Biyombo, McGee, Muscala, Azubuike, Achiuwa, Theis, Zeller, Giles, or maybe Jeff Green.

It's a low bar but can call the off season complete. Again, may be moot if Burns is gonna fill that spot as a UDFA.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#247 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 2:53 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Looking at FA out there i think i would like one of Metu, Biyombo, McGee, Muscala, Azubuike, Achiuwa, Theis, Zeller, Giles, or maybe Jeff Green.

It's a low bar but can call the off season complete. Again, may be moot if Burns is gonna fill that spot as a UDFA.


If Philly waives Reid we should be all over that opportunity the moment he clears waivers, but I think the Knicks are going to expand that Bridges trade and try to snag him.
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2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#248 » by KuruptedCav » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:03 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#249 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:00 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looking at FA out there i think i would like one of Metu, Biyombo, McGee, Muscala, Azubuike, Achiuwa, Theis, Zeller, Giles, or maybe Jeff Green.

It's a low bar but can call the off season complete. Again, may be moot if Burns is gonna fill that spot as a UDFA.


If Philly waives Reid we should be all over that opportunity the moment he clears waivers, but I think the Knicks are going to expand that Bridges trade and try to snag him.

I'm not a huge fan of Paul Reed, personally.

6'9" 210, he's just so slightly built.

Just this past season he did show he can shoot even though on low volume and block shots a little.

I want my back-up big to be a proven shot blocker like Biyombo, McGee, or Theis.

Or i want my back-up big to be a proven shooter like Muscala, Green, or Theis
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#250 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 5:02 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Looking at FA out there i think i would like one of Metu, Biyombo, McGee, Muscala, Azubuike, Achiuwa, Theis, Zeller, Giles, or maybe Jeff Green.

It's a low bar but can call the off season complete. Again, may be moot if Burns is gonna fill that spot as a UDFA.


If Philly waives Reid we should be all over that opportunity the moment he clears waivers, but I think the Knicks are going to expand that Bridges trade and try to snag him.

I'm not a huge fan of Paul Reed, personally.

6'9" 210, he's just so slightly built.

Just this past season he did show he can shoot even though on low volume and block shots a little.

I want my back-up big to be a proven shot blocker like Biyombo, McGee, or Theis.

Or i want my back-up big to be a proven shooter like Muscala, Green, or Theis


On a league minimum deal, or BAE depending on what happens with Okoro, I think Reed is a steal.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#251 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:48 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
If Philly waives Reid we should be all over that opportunity the moment he clears waivers, but I think the Knicks are going to expand that Bridges trade and try to snag him.

I'm not a huge fan of Paul Reed, personally.

6'9" 210, he's just so slightly built.

Just this past season he did show he can shoot even though on low volume and block shots a little.

I want my back-up big to be a proven shot blocker like Biyombo, McGee, or Theis.

Or i want my back-up big to be a proven shooter like Muscala, Green, or Theis


On a league minimum deal, or BAE depending on what happens with Okoro, I think Reed is a steal.
BAE is off the table until next summer, because we signed Ty Jerome last summer.

We have the TPE but even if Okoro leaves, doubt we can use the full thing. Plus who knows if any guys will be left by that time, if it is anything like Sexton's restricted free agency.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#252 » by toooskies » Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:23 pm

Read on Twitter


Looks like I was right and Rich Paul and DG were not on the same page.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#253 » by JonFromVA » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:12 pm

toooskies wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like I was right and Rich Paul and DG were not on the same page.


As far as I know, Klutch never admitted to the comment, but whatever, the Cavs have calmed the fires. Maybe Kenny will get a chance to show what he can do with the roster? Maybe we just made it clear we won't accept the crap offers we were getting.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#254 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 11:36 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
toooskies wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like I was right and Rich Paul and DG were not on the same page.


As far as I know, Klutch never admitted to the comment, but whatever, the Cavs have calmed the fires. Maybe Kenny will get a chance to show what he can do with the roster? Maybe we just made it clear we won't accept the crap offers we were getting.


That was a direct attribution press release. There's no admitting *it.* If there was no immediate, and public, denial, Rich Paul said it.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#255 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jul 5, 2024 1:40 am

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
toooskies wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like I was right and Rich Paul and DG were not on the same page.


As far as I know, Klutch never admitted to the comment, but whatever, the Cavs have calmed the fires. Maybe Kenny will get a chance to show what he can do with the roster? Maybe we just made it clear we won't accept the crap offers we were getting.


That was a direct attribution press release. There's no admitting *it.* If there was no immediate, and public, denial, Rich Paul said it.


Not in the least.

"League sources believe Klutch will ..." ?

Rich Paul is not required to publically address rumors.

But if you think it's something to worry about, then it likely still is that is once there's an offer worth considering.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#256 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:07 am

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
As far as I know, Klutch never admitted to the comment, but whatever, the Cavs have calmed the fires. Maybe Kenny will get a chance to show what he can do with the roster? Maybe we just made it clear we won't accept the crap offers we were getting.


That was a direct attribution press release. There's no admitting *it.* If there was no immediate, and public, denial, Rich Paul said it.


Not in the least.

"League sources believe Klutch will ..." ?

Rich Paul is not required to publically address rumors.

But if you think it's something to worry about, then it likely still is that is once there's an offer worth considering.


Rich Paul was mentioned by name in that article.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#257 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:15 am

This S&T interest in Miles Bridges better be just Klutch using us as a stalking horse.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#258 » by toooskies » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:46 am

jbk1234 wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
That was a direct attribution press release. There's no admitting *it.* If there was no immediate, and public, denial, Rich Paul said it.


Not in the least.

"League sources believe Klutch will ..." ?

Rich Paul is not required to publically address rumors.

But if you think it's something to worry about, then it likely still is that is once there's an offer worth considering.


Rich Paul was mentioned by name in that article.

Windhorst also confirmed it.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#259 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:04 am

jbk1234 wrote:This S&T interest in Miles Bridges better be just Klutch using us as a stalking horse.
We didn't land Washington last season via S&T from the Hornets, so I'm not too worried about it.

If it were to come true, i assume Okoro is going back the other way, or being S&T to a 3rd team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#260 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:17 am

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jbk1234 wrote:This S&T interest in Miles Bridges better be just Klutch using us as a stalking horse.
We didn't land Washington last season via S&T from the Hornets, so I'm not too worried about it.

If it were to come true, i assume Okoro is going back the other way, or being S&T to a 3rd team.


The Cavs are my favorite sports team, but I'd seriously consider taking a rather large step back if the Cavs traded for Miles Bridges. I cut the cord on the Browns after they traded for Watson.

I really don't get it. He's some other team's problem. It's not like you drafted him and feel some misguided need to make it work. This is the Cavs inviting all kinds of outside controversy and scrutiny into the organization. That's before you get to whatever cap space you have to commit to him and whatever value you have to send Charlotte's way.
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