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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#261 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:23 am

jbk1234 wrote:
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jbk1234 wrote:This S&T interest in Miles Bridges better be just Klutch using us as a stalking horse.
We didn't land Washington last season via S&T from the Hornets, so I'm not too worried about it.

If it were to come true, i assume Okoro is going back the other way, or being S&T to a 3rd team.


The Cavs are my favorite sports team, but I'd seriously consider taking a rather large step back if the Cavs traded for Miles Bridges. I cut the cord on the Browns after they traded for Watson.

I really don't get it. He's some other team's problem. It's not like you drafted him and feel some misguided need to make it work. This is the Cavs inviting all kinds of outside controversy and scrutiny into the organization. That's before you get to whatever cap space you have to commit to him and whatever value you have to send Charlotte's way.
I understand your point of view but don't write the Cavs off just yet. If it becomes a reality and you feel the need to, everyone here will support ya.

Like you said, this is probably just a Klutch leverage play at this point to get the Clippers to cough up more assets.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#262 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:53 pm

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Not in the least.

"League sources believe Klutch will ..." ?

Rich Paul is not required to publically address rumors.

But if you think it's something to worry about, then it likely still is that is once there's an offer worth considering.


Rich Paul was mentioned by name in that article.

Windhorst also confirmed it.


I saw that, he did confirm. He's also said he has no idea how DG feels about it and the trade market is awful for him. DG has said nothing about the rumor.

If this all makes you feel strongly one way or another, knock yourselves out. Just rumors to me, until something happens.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#263 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jul 5, 2024 2:57 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:
That was a direct attribution press release. There's no admitting *it.* If there was no immediate, and public, denial, Rich Paul said it.


Not in the least.

"League sources believe Klutch will ..." ?

Rich Paul is not required to publically address rumors.

But if you think it's something to worry about, then it likely still is that is once there's an offer worth considering.


Rich Paul was mentioned by name in that article.


Feel free to show me a quote directly attributed to Paul and for bonus points include the part where he says DG is on board ...
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#264 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 3:00 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
toooskies wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Rich Paul was mentioned by name in that article.

Windhorst also confirmed it.


I saw that, he did confirm. He's also said he has no idea how DG feels about it and the trade market is awful for him. DG has said nothing about the rumor.

If this all makes you feel strongly one way or another, knock yourselves out. Just rumors to me, until something happens.
With CP3 to the Spurs and Murray to the Pelicans, i see no landing spot for Garland.

Might as well just hold onto him at this point and see what Kenny can figure with our short starting back court.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#265 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 4:36 pm

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toooskies wrote:Windhorst also confirmed it.


I saw that, he did confirm. He's also said he has no idea how DG feels about it and the trade market is awful for him. DG has said nothing about the rumor.

If this all makes you feel strongly one way or another, knock yourselves out. Just rumors to me, until something happens.
With CP3 to the Spurs and Murray to the Pelicans, i see no landing spot for Garland.

Might as well just hold onto him at this point and see what Kenny can figure with our short starting back court.


A 39-year old CP3 signing a one-year deal with the Spurs in no way precludes them as a potential trade partner. The three biggest reasons he won't be traded this summer are: (1) He's coming off a down season and his value has dipped (2) bad teams aren't looking to get better ahead of the 2025 draft; and (3) the Cavs want to see if Atkinson can get more out of our backcourt.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#266 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:17 pm

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I saw that, he did confirm. He's also said he has no idea how DG feels about it and the trade market is awful for him. DG has said nothing about the rumor.

If this all makes you feel strongly one way or another, knock yourselves out. Just rumors to me, until something happens.
With CP3 to the Spurs and Murray to the Pelicans, i see no landing spot for Garland.

Might as well just hold onto him at this point and see what Kenny can figure with our short starting back court.


A 39-year old CP3 signing a one-year deal with the Spurs in no way precludes them as a potential trade partner. The three biggest reasons he won't be traded this summer are: (1) He's coming off a down season and his value has dipped (2) bad teams aren't looking to get better ahead of the 2025 draft; and (3) the Cavs want to see if Atkinson can get more out of our backcourt.
Like i said on the GB, CP3 is going to average near 10 APG, they're not gonna mess with that.

Plus they just drafted Castle #4 overall.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#267 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 6:26 pm

The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#268 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 8:28 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:With CP3 to the Spurs and Murray to the Pelicans, i see no landing spot for Garland.

Might as well just hold onto him at this point and see what Kenny can figure with our short starting back court.


A 39-year old CP3 signing a one-year deal with the Spurs in no way precludes them as a potential trade partner. The three biggest reasons he won't be traded this summer are: (1) He's coming off a down season and his value has dipped (2) bad teams aren't looking to get better ahead of the 2025 draft; and (3) the Cavs want to see if Atkinson can get more out of our backcourt.
Like i said on the GB, CP3 is going to average near 10 APG, they're not gonna mess with that.

Plus they just drafted Castle #4 overall.


I think LBJ broke people's brains so far as what it means to be 39 and play meaningful minutes in the NBA. CP3 hasn't stayed healthy for an entire season since he was with the Pelicans. He can't beat anyone off the dribble. He can't create space to get his own shot off. They have 2 players he can pass it to who can score.

Castle's not a PG. They'll definitely give it a go, if you'll try it with Sochan, you'll try it with anyone, but he has so much distance to travel on that front it would be a minor miracle. They're drafting guys based on athleticism and body archetype and trying to turn them into PGs.

Now, maybe they don't want to go in hard on Garland before the season starts, maybe not even until after the draft, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't trade for him tomorrow if the Cavs would take what they'll offer.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#269 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 5, 2024 8:30 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image


Brobley failed to get a qualifying offer. The knock on him coming out was his work ethic, and seeing the amount of effort he plays with, it seems like a fair critique.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#270 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:16 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image


Brobley to get a qualifying offer when he was extended. The knock on him coming out was his work ethic, and seeing the amount of effort he plays with, it seems like a fair critique.
Brobley is an UFA but then again, so his Nance.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#271 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:53 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image


Bates is auditioning for an nba roster spot, makes sense for him to play. If he wants a little security he could just take whatever the Cavs are offering.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#272 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:35 am

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image


Bates is auditioning for an nba roster spot, makes sense for him to play. If he wants a little security he could just take whatever the Cavs are offering.
Actually that's a really good point.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#273 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:04 pm

Lol i took a little mid day slumber and had a dream that the Warriors were trying to sign DJ Burns away from us
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#274 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Jul 6, 2024 8:19 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:This S&T interest in Miles Bridges better be just Klutch using us as a stalking horse.
We didn't land Washington last season via S&T from the Hornets, so I'm not too worried about it.

If it were to come true, i assume Okoro is going back the other way, or being S&T to a 3rd team.


The Cavs are my favorite sports team, but I'd seriously consider taking a rather large step back if the Cavs traded for Miles Bridges. I cut the cord on the Browns after they traded for Watson.

I really don't get it. He's some other team's problem. It's not like you drafted him and feel some misguided need to make it work. This is the Cavs inviting all kinds of outside controversy and scrutiny into the organization. That's before you get to whatever cap space you have to commit to him and whatever value you have to send Charlotte's way.
See, back to the Hornets, nothing to worry about.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#276 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jul 7, 2024 6:32 am

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/07/cavs-hire-donovan-mitchell-mentor-johnnie-bryant-as-associate-head-coach.html?outputType=amp

Why do we always do this? In this specific instance, i assume it was to appease Mitchell. I'm sure Kenny signed off on it but I understand it less than the previous 2 times we did it. Blatt and Beilein had zero expierence in the NBA so it made sense to hire an associate head coach from the search but i don't agree with having the backup plan on the staff already, awkward to me.

At any rate, Kenny's staff is starting to come together.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#277 » by mcfly1204 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 8:15 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/07/cavs-hire-donovan-mitchell-mentor-johnnie-bryant-as-associate-head-coach.html?outputType=amp

Why do we always do this? In this specific instance, i assume it was to appease Mitchell. I'm sure Kenny signed off on it but I understand it less than the previous 2 times we did it. Blatt and Beilein had zero expierence in the NBA so it made sense to hire an associate head coach from the search but i don't agree with having the backup plan on the staff already, awkward to me.

At any rate, Kenny's staff is starting to come together.

Bryant has been an assistant coach for a decade. From what I've heard, this is a quality hire.
Well at least we're not Detroit!
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#278 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jul 7, 2024 8:29 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/07/cavs-hire-donovan-mitchell-mentor-johnnie-bryant-as-associate-head-coach.html?outputType=amp

Why do we always do this? In this specific instance, i assume it was to appease Mitchell. I'm sure Kenny signed off on it but I understand it less than the previous 2 times we did it. Blatt and Beilein had zero expierence in the NBA so it made sense to hire an associate head coach from the search but i don't agree with having the backup plan on the staff already, awkward to me.

At any rate, Kenny's staff is starting to come together.

Bryant has been an assistant coach for a decade. From what I've heard, this is a quality hire.
He's an associate head coach, same role jb and Lue occupied before taking over as head coach, the writing is on the wall.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#279 » by mcfly1204 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 8:58 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2024/07/cavs-hire-donovan-mitchell-mentor-johnnie-bryant-as-associate-head-coach.html?outputType=amp

Why do we always do this? In this specific instance, i assume it was to appease Mitchell. I'm sure Kenny signed off on it but I understand it less than the previous 2 times we did it. Blatt and Beilein had zero expierence in the NBA so it made sense to hire an associate head coach from the search but i don't agree with having the backup plan on the staff already, awkward to me.

At any rate, Kenny's staff is starting to come together.

Bryant has been an assistant coach for a decade. From what I've heard, this is a quality hire.
He's an associate head coach, same role jb and Lue occupied before taking over as head coach, the writing is on the wall.

Kenny has experience managing stars, Johnnie a player's coach. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out.
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Re: 2024-25 Off-Season 

Post#280 » by jbk1234 » Sun Jul 7, 2024 9:08 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:The SL squad has been announced.

No Brobley.

Surprise Bates is on the squad before they figure out his RFA situation but maybe he just practices and doesn't play.

Also no Diop this summer but did someone say he is hurt right now?Image


Bates is auditioning for an nba roster spot, makes sense for him to play. If he wants a little security he could just take whatever the Cavs are offering.


Didn't we extend the Q.O. to Bates? I'm at a bit pf a loss as to why he didn't sign it within minutes of it being offered.
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