2021-22 regular season thread

[JonFromVA]

But what about the SF position........

If we trade Sexton for Batter, I'd feel real good about SF, but when the Knicks couldn't trade up for Duarte, well I think we might be back to Nance at SF, which I'm fine with, but we're starting a rookie at PF and that's good for 5 Ls a season.

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I find it hard to believe the cavs would be okay with going into next season with only Cedi Osman as the only true, not playing out of position SF.

Okoro is a true SF, just on the short side. Windler is fine there too.

Now none of them have yet proven to be starting quality ... that's true.

There may be some options with our MLE, especially if we're willing to promise a starting spot.

[Medall21]

From bleacherreport.com:

The Raptors have long been rumored to covet Jarrett Allen in addition to their interest in Holmes. Yet while Cleveland officials view Toronto as their biggest threat to retaining Allen, it is expected that the 23-year-old center will re-sign with the Cavaliers to pair with Evan Mobley in the frontcourt.

Bryn Forbes parted ways with Milwaukee after not playing in the last three games of the Finals, and league sources said the Brooklyn Nets are believed to be a leading candidate for him. Other teams to keep an eye on: Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas and New Orleans.

Best scenario: resign J.Allen + B.Forbes. Not bad.

[jbk1234]

From bleacherreport.com:

The Raptors have long been rumored to covet Jarrett Allen in addition to their interest in Holmes. Yet while Cleveland officials view Toronto as their biggest threat to retaining Allen, it is expected that the 23-year-old center will re-sign with the Cavaliers to pair with Evan Mobley in the frontcourt.

Bryn Forbes parted ways with Milwaukee after not playing in the last three games of the Finals, and league sources said the Brooklyn Nets are believed to be a leading candidate for him. Other teams to keep an eye on: Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas and New Orleans.

Best scenario: resign J.Allen + B.Forbes. Not bad.

The Raptors have to renounce rights, cap holds in order to get Allen the type of money he's looking for and then the Cavs have 72 hours to match. If the Raptors make it hurt to match, the Cavs should take all of the allotted time and then match.

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[Wisedude]

I would not be surprised if the Cavs are pretty much set with the roster here. From all indications, they will sign Jarret Allen to an extension. Some reasons why Altman was passive in the draft and not getting another pick. Altman didn't find the right trade to make during the draft so best to not do anything. They still have Love under contract 2 more years and have to see if anything happens there. They are basically capped out. Let the draft finish, let the Free Agency period start and see if any trade opportunities develop that make sense. The Cavs have a young developing team and Mobley may make a big impact. The Cavs in 2022 draft have their 1st round and heard 2 2nd round picks. So stay patient and see what happens in the FA period seems to the Cavs game plan right now.

[jbk1234]

Today is the guarantee date on Dragic. If the Heat decline it, they're probably signing Lowry and the ship has likely sailed on a Love trade.

The next big date will be training camp. If his calf isn't healed by then, I still think a medical retirement is possible.

The final big date is the day after the trade deadline. At that point, a buyout starts to make more sense financially for both parties.

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[NatiboyB]

Today is the guarantee date on Dragic. If the Heat decline it, they're probably signing Lowry and the ship has likely sailed on a Love trade.

The next big date will be training camp. If his calf isn't healed by then, I still think a medical retirement is possible.

The final big date is the day after the trade deadline. At that point, a buyout starts to make more sense financially for both parties.

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I’d have to look at the rules but I think Love plays too much to be considered this early for medical retirement.

[jbk1234]

Today is the guarantee date on Dragic. If the Heat decline it, they're probably signing Lowry and the ship has likely sailed on a Love trade.

The next big date will be training camp. If his calf isn't healed by then, I still think a medical retirement is possible.

The final big date is the day after the trade deadline. At that point, a buyout starts to make more sense financially for both parties.

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I’d have to look at the rules but I think Love plays too much to be considered this early for medical retirement.

How it works is that the player says he's done for medical reasons, the league doctors examine him to ensure that's the case, and then a year later, that player's contract drops of the books. The last medical retirement was Chris Bosh and he played plenty before his condition.

[JonFromVA]

KLove is fine .. he just actually is a slug and imagines he can contribute to a basketball team without bothering to get in to basketball shape first. Nice life.

[jbk1234]

KLove is fine .. he just actually is a slug and imagines he can contribute to a basketball team without bothering to get in to basketball shape first. Nice life.

I go back and forth on that. It's certainly plausible that his heart just isn't in it anymore, but fans tend to underrate how much dealing with injuries, especially injuries that don't heal properly, absolutely sucks for players. It's physically painful and really disheartening. Love's had more than his share of injuries and it takes a toll. If his calf is playing a significant role in him not being able to get into shape, then he's going to have a decision to make. Because he's not even a useful bench player if he's not in basketball shape.

[JonFromVA]

KLove is fine .. he just actually is a slug and imagines he can contribute to a basketball team without bothering to get in to basketball shape first. Nice life.

I go back and forth on that. It's certainly plausible that his heart just isn't in it anymore, but fans tend to underrate how much dealing with injuries, especially injuries that don't heal properly, absolutely sucks for players. It's physically painful and really disheartening. Love's had more than his share of injuries and it takes a toll. If his calf is playing a significant role in him not being able to get into shape, then he's going to have a decision to make. Because he's not even a useful bench player if he's not in basketball shape.

Just seems he would have dropped out earlier if he didn't think he could train up and deal with his achilles/calf.

But its possible he was feeling great, training was going well, then he had a set back; but Colangelo sounds more like he was conned. Normally they'd protect these guys rep at all costs.

[jbk1234]

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[KuruptedCav]

Life is too short to take offense to basketball forum disagreements but if you dont like what I said it wasn't personal... it was the truth though...as I see it anyway just like someone else will have what they consider to be the truth as they see it.
The truth is nobody knows for certain what news that was reported about Sexton is fact or fiction and using my discretion I feel far more informed ignoring unreasonable theories suggesting they should dump him for peanuts which is all they will get for him right now. Maybe Altman is that stupid that he would trade him now, but I would like to think he isnt that dumb....and no I am not calling anyone stupid for disagreeing with me lol I am just saying I think it is stupid to trade him
EH Its almost football season anyway

Sexton was on the block. The Cavs didn't like the offers. That's the truth. Again, there's an ignore function.

You can keep going at Jon, and I get that you like to argue, but you should understand that there's a good chance he's going to be the next mod for this forum. I'm about done.

You should also brace yourself for at least the possibility of Sexton still getting traded. There are a lot of playoff teams with tight windows who are about to run out of options. Their pre-draft-day offers won't be the same as their post-free-agency offers. I suspect that if the Knicks were able to trade up and draft Duerte, then Sexton would've already been traded. They're not nearly as high on Barrett as they're pretending.

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See this is the part where I say prove it... and noone can so anything beyond that is speculative yet some chose apparently including yourself to believe what made sense to you since you think Sexton does not deserve to get paid etc etc and the people that said things of the nature that he was available as if that meant he was any more available than anyone else which imo is absolute speculation and there is zero proof of it have been silenced.
It's alright I am walking away for now anyway , there is nothing more to say
Peace out

We’ve also heard similar rumblings about SGA, MPJ, JJJ, WCJ, etc. there is a difference between a player being available for the right deal and shopping a player or putting them on the block.

Where a given player falls along the spectrum is all speculation and will vary from one poster to the next and one team to the next.


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[jbk1234]

I don't get this:

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[jbk1234]

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[JonFromVA]

I don't get this:

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Rubio signing may have triggered some cap decisions is my only guess. Might also figure Mobley can (or will have to) play backup C minutes

[jbk1234]

I don't get this:

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Rubio signing may have triggered some cap decisions is my only guess. Might also figure Mobley can (or will have to) play backup C minutes

I still don't get it. We extended a QO to that G League guy who had not a single basketball skill. It's just bad cap management on the last third of the roster. This is also the first K. Love casualty that might hurt.

[jbk1234]

Excitement level minimal.

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[JonFromVA]

I don't get this:

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Rubio signing may have triggered some cap decisions is my only guess. Might also figure Mobley can (or will have to) play backup C minutes

I still don't get it. We extended a QO to that G League guy who had not a single basketball skill. It's just bad cap management on the last third of the roster. This is also the first K. Love casualty that might hurt.

Kabengele? Presumably cheap and already under contract. If Hartenstein somehow slips through free agency we can still sign him with Bird rights... at least until we surrender the exception.

[Wisedude]

It looks like the Cavs have had alot of trade discussions with teams and plan to improve the team via the trade route. Probably have to let some free agent dominos fall first around the league. From what I reading now, it looks like the Cavs will spend some money on a free agent. Unless signing a FA allows the Cavs to trade a current player on the roster.

[Harper4Ferry?]

I don't get this:

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That's the type of dumb move a dumb organization makes.