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[jbk1234]

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Team USA would be so much better off with Sexton out there. Not only is he used to not getting those calls but he's also used to playing through that contact and still making the damn basket instead of fishing for the points at the FT line.

Sexton plays through contact better than Beal and Tatum now? Does he also leap tall buildings in a single bound?

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[Stillwater]

Again, this is embarrassing and I hope Silver is paying attention.

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Team USA would be so much better off with Sexton out there. Not only is he used to not getting those calls but he's also used to playing through that contact and still making the damn basket instead of fishing for the points at the FT line.

Sexton plays through contact better than Beal and Tatum now? Does he also leap tall buildings in a single bound?

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You know hes right nobody esp Sexton on the Cavs ever gets star treatment and rarely takes advantage of the Trae Young James Harden foul baiting opportunity He never gets calls unless its obvious but you could see a couple officials were trending towards it when all the double teams started coming and he was still scoring.

[jbk1234]

Team USA would be so much better off with Sexton out there. Not only is he used to not getting those calls but he's also used to playing through that contact and still making the damn basket instead of fishing for the points at the FT line.

Sexton plays through contact better than Beal and Tatum now? Does he also leap tall buildings in a single bound?

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You know hes right nobody esp Sexton on the Cavs ever gets star treatment and rarely takes advantage of the Trae Young James Harden foul baiting opportunity He never gets calls unless its obvious but you could see a couple officials were trending towards it when all the double teams started coming and he was still scoring.

He averaged over 6 FTs s game. What are you even talking about?

Look, anyone who has watched these games gets why team USA is struggling against the better international teams. They're treating this like an all star game and the other teams are not. Only Green and Bam are playing hard on defense. The rest of these guys are all conserving energy and hoping someone else closes out on shooters.

When it comes to offense, you have a bunch of shoot first players who aren't playing as a unit. Opposing teams are blitzing the primary ball handler and the guys on team USA aren't doing a very good job of showing and helping him out. Dame has never looked less like a PG. Almost no one is making the extra pass. Durant and Garland, in very limited minutes, seem like the only guys who are trying to facilitate. I mean look at the assist numbers for starters.

Team USA still has the most talent, but they're not playing as a cohesive unit. The better international teams are. The idea that adding Sexton to the mix would fix that is preposterous. They have a dozen better versions of Sexton on that roster already.

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[Revenged25]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

[Stillwater]

Sexton plays through contact better than Beal and Tatum now? Does he also leap tall buildings in a single bound?

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You know hes right nobody esp Sexton on the Cavs ever gets star treatment and rarely takes advantage of the Trae Young James Harden foul baiting opportunity He never gets calls unless its obvious but you could see a couple officials were trending towards it when all the double teams started coming and he was still scoring.

He averaged over 6 FTs s game. What are you even talking about?

Look, anyone who has watched these games gets why team USA is struggling against the better international teams. They're treating this like an all star game and the other teams are not. Only Green and Bam are playing hard on defense. The rest of these guys are all conserving energy and hoping someone else closes out on shooters.

When it comes to offense, you have a bunch of shoot first players who aren't playing as a unit. Opposing teams are blitzing the primary ball handler and the guys on team USA aren't doing a very good job of showing and helping him out. Dame has never looked less like a PG. Almost no one is making the extra pass. Durant and Garland, in very limited minutes, seem like the only guys who are trying to facilitate. I mean look at the assist numbers for starters.

Team USA still has the most talent, but they're not playing as a cohesive unit. The better international teams are. The idea that adding Sexton to the mix would fix that is preposterous. They have a dozen better versions of Sexton on that roster already.

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Lol as often as he attacks he should be getting to the line12 to 15 times a game thats at least another 10 pts a game and it matters

[LivingLegend]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

It also makes it sound like there is a much greater chance he stays than gets traded. That made me feel better that the Cavs are not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

[Revenged25]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

It also makes it sound like there is a much greater chance he stays than gets traded. That made me feel better that the Cavs are not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

Yeah I mean if a trade gets someone like RJ Barrett, Brandon Ingram, etc that balances the roster while still providing his production, they'll do it. But they aren't accepting Obi Toppin and late 1sts, or #10 and NAW.

Plus like the article said, if other teams don't view him as a max player and it's a loaded FA class in '22 why would any of them offer Sexton a contract the Cavs wouldn't be comfortable matching? And if they do offer him a contract that's approaching the max, then he must've done something right during the season to deserve it right?

[jbk1234]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

He's obviously available. I agree that what's been offered isn't particularly appealing (although getting Herro back AND getting of off Love's second year isn't something I'd be too quick to reject). The Cavs should absolutely squeeze the Knicks for Barrett (who I think is the only realistic target in that tier).

Having said that, there's a difference between waiting past the draft, when you can see who fell to No. 3, and waiting past the team option dates for Dragic and Iggy. If the Knicks aren't ever going to put Barrett on the table, then you need someone else to start at the wing and it would be great if that guy was more of an outside shooter like Herro.

There are a couple of self-evident problems with bringing Sexton back as a starter next to Garland, and before the usual suspects chime in with trade Garland, you need to identify the attainable PG who the Cavs can play alongside Sexton. If you move Sexton to the bench in a contract year, to play behind someone who is more limited offensively, how does that go?

I'm also not buying the notion that his trade market is going to reflect his RFA market. There's a difference between parting with a guy you've identified as part of your core (Barrett), or parting with lottery picks in an upcoming draft, and throwing a bag of money at a guy who may, or may not, be worth it. Dumb teams talk themselves into doing it all the time and it only takes one.

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[jbk1234]

You know hes right nobody esp Sexton on the Cavs ever gets star treatment and rarely takes advantage of the Trae Young James Harden foul baiting opportunity He never gets calls unless its obvious but you could see a couple officials were trending towards it when all the double teams started coming and he was still scoring.

He averaged over 6 FTs s game. What are you even talking about?

Look, anyone who has watched these games gets why team USA is struggling against the better international teams. They're treating this like an all star game and the other teams are not. Only Green and Bam are playing hard on defense. The rest of these guys are all conserving energy and hoping someone else closes out on shooters.

When it comes to offense, you have a bunch of shoot first players who aren't playing as a unit. Opposing teams are blitzing the primary ball handler and the guys on team USA aren't doing a very good job of showing and helping him out. Dame has never looked less like a PG. Almost no one is making the extra pass. Durant and Garland, in very limited minutes, seem like the only guys who are trying to facilitate. I mean look at the assist numbers for starters.

Team USA still has the most talent, but they're not playing as a cohesive unit. The better international teams are. The idea that adding Sexton to the mix would fix that is preposterous. They have a dozen better versions of Sexton on that roster already.

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Lol as often as he attacks he should be getting to the line12 to 15 times a game thats at least another 10 pts a game and it matters

Yeah, he should go to line 2-5 more times than Harden, lead the league in free throws, and then we should build a statute for him.

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[LivingLegend]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

It also makes it sound like there is a much greater chance he stays than gets traded. That made me feel better that the Cavs are not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

Yeah I mean if a trade gets someone like RJ Barrett, Brandon Ingram, etc that balances the roster while still providing his production, they'll do it. But they aren't accepting Obi Toppin and late 1sts, or #10 and NAW.

Plus like the article said, if other teams don't view him as a max player and it's a loaded FA class in '22 why would any of them offer Sexton a contract the Cavs wouldn't be comfortable matching? And if they do offer him a contract that's approaching the max, then he must've done something right during the season to deserve it right?

Right, if anything do nothing and hold onto him. Let him test the market as a RFA, hopefully find out his 'true' value on the market and maybe the Cavs could then keep him for a reasonable price because of a oversaturated 22' class.

[Revenged25]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

He's obviously available. I agree that what's been offered isn't particularly appealing (although getting Herro back AND getting of off Love's second year isn't something I'd be too quick to reject). The Cavs should absolutely squeeze the Knicks for Barrett (who I think is the only realistic target in that tier).

Having said that, there's a difference between waiting past the draft, when you can see who fell to No. 3, and waiting past the team option dates for Dragic and Iggy. If the Knicks aren't ever going to put Barrett on the table, then you need someone else to start at the wing and it would be great if that guy was more of an outside shooter like Herro.

There are a couple of self-evident problems with bringing Sexton back as a starter next to Garland, and before the usual suspects chime in with trade Garland, you need to identify the attainable PG who the Cavs can play alongside Sexton. If you move Sexton to the bench in a contract year, to play behind someone who is more limited offensively, how does that go?

I'm also not buying the notion that his trade market is going to reflect his RFA market. There's a difference between parting with a guy you've identified as part of your core (Barrett), or parting with lottery picks in an upcoming draft, and throwing a bag of money at a guy who may, or may not, be worth it. Dumb teams talk themselves into doing it all the time and it only takes one.

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IMO trades need to involve Barrett/Ingram/MPJ level players, even if the Cavs need to add a minor asset due to positional/contract value differences.

I think getting of Love's contract makes sense if they have an idea of who they are targeting in FA next year with a good chance of signing. If they are getting off of it just to accept bad contracts and get more assets they are just admitting they spinning their wheels and shouldn't even extend Allen. Also I don't think Herro is more than a bench 3pt shooter, maybe topping out as Redick. If the Cavs don't want to water down Sexton's value by attaching Love but the Heat were still interested, I'd have them approach Robinson in regards to a S&T to the Cavs. If he's willing to sign a market standard contract, looks to be about 4/70-80 based on recent signings, then ship out Sexton + Prince to the Heat for Robinson in a S&T. Cavs get a 2-way SF/SG and the Heat get their dominant scorer while still having Herro who can be the 3pt shooting SG for them as Butler mans the SF position, heck they even get a 3pt shooting combo forward on an expiring out of the deal.

I think if Sexton was in this year's FA as a RFA, he'd get maxed out by someone. I think next year with it being a much more loaded FA class I don't think he'd get maxed out. Now do I think he could still get a 4/100 offer, I could see it, but I think that unless he makes strides as a passer and defensively, which based on his work ethic and drive to improve his areas of weaknesses I wouldn't be surprised if he did, then that's probably the max he gets and probably closer to 4/80. Now if he does make those strides then he proves his max worth and the Cavs can't really complain about paying him if he's worth it.

[LivingLegend]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

He's obviously available. I agree that what's been offered isn't particularly appealing (although getting Herro back AND getting of off Love's second year isn't something I'd be too quick to reject). The Cavs should absolutely squeeze the Knicks for Barrett (who I think is the only realistic target in that tier).

Having said that, there's a difference between waiting past the draft, when you can see who fell to No. 3, and waiting past the team option dates for Dragic and Iggy. If the Knicks aren't ever going to put Barrett on the table, then you need someone else to start at the wing and it would be great if that guy was more of an outside shooter like Herro.

There are a couple of self-evident problems with bringing Sexton back as a starter next to Garland, and before the usual suspects chime in with trade Garland, you need to identify the attainable PG who the Cavs can play alongside Sexton. If you move Sexton to the bench in a contract year, to play behind someone who is more limited offensively, how does that go?

I'm also not buying the notion that his trade market is going to reflect his RFA market. There's a difference between parting with a guy you've identified as part of your core (Barrett), or parting with lottery picks in an upcoming draft, and throwing a bag of money at a guy who may, or may not, be worth it. Dumb teams talk themselves into doing it all the time and it only takes one.

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I think that goes back to the notion of trading Garland then for ____ and signing Lonzo Ball since hes available. Basically running Sexton/Ball as the starting guards and trading off Garland for whatever his market may be.

But Fedor is right, the Cavs cant continue to start Sexland for the long term--too many defensive holes. Something has to give, but Im just not sure what that is.

ALSO! Let this be a lesson for the people who scream rebuilding teams should always go BPA and disregard Fit. Fit matters. Thats why we are in this situation.

[Revenged25]

It also makes it sound like there is a much greater chance he stays than gets traded. That made me feel better that the Cavs are not going to trade him just for the sake of trading him.

Yeah I mean if a trade gets someone like RJ Barrett, Brandon Ingram, etc that balances the roster while still providing his production, they'll do it. But they aren't accepting Obi Toppin and late 1sts, or #10 and NAW.

Plus like the article said, if other teams don't view him as a max player and it's a loaded FA class in '22 why would any of them offer Sexton a contract the Cavs wouldn't be comfortable matching? And if they do offer him a contract that's approaching the max, then he must've done something right during the season to deserve it right?

Right, if anything do nothing and hold onto him. Let him test the market as a RFA, hopefully find out his 'true' value on the market and maybe the Cavs could then keep him for a reasonable price because of a oversaturated 22' class.

Or if they overpay him, attach a 2nd or 2 to him and get that TPE that they can use later.

[jbk1234]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

He's obviously available. I agree that what's been offered isn't particularly appealing (although getting Herro back AND getting of off Love's second year isn't something I'd be too quick to reject). The Cavs should absolutely squeeze the Knicks for Barrett (who I think is the only realistic target in that tier).

Having said that, there's a difference between waiting past the draft, when you can see who fell to No. 3, and waiting past the team option dates for Dragic and Iggy. If the Knicks aren't ever going to put Barrett on the table, then you need someone else to start at the wing and it would be great if that guy was more of an outside shooter like Herro.

There are a couple of self-evident problems with bringing Sexton back as a starter next to Garland, and before the usual suspects chime in with trade Garland, you need to identify the attainable PG who the Cavs can play alongside Sexton. If you move Sexton to the bench in a contract year, to play behind someone who is more limited offensively, how does that go?

I'm also not buying the notion that his trade market is going to reflect his RFA market. There's a difference between parting with a guy you've identified as part of your core (Barrett), or parting with lottery picks in an upcoming draft, and throwing a bag of money at a guy who may, or may not, be worth it. Dumb teams talk themselves into doing it all the time and it only takes one.

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IMO trades need to involve Barrett/Ingram/MPJ level players, even if the Cavs need to add a minor asset due to positional/contract value differences.

I think getting of Love's contract makes sense if they have an idea of who they are targeting in FA next year with a good chance of signing. If they are getting off of it just to accept bad contracts and get more assets they are just admitting they spinning their wheels and shouldn't even extend Allen. Also I don't think Herro is more than a bench 3pt shooter, maybe topping out as Redick. If the Cavs don't want to water down Sexton's value by attaching Love but the Heat were still interested, I'd have them approach Robinson in regards to a S&T to the Cavs. If he's willing to sign a market standard contract, looks to be about 4/70-80 based on recent signings, then ship out Sexton + Prince to the Heat for Robinson in a S&T. Cavs get a 2-way SF/SG and the Heat get their dominant scorer while still having Herro who can be the 3pt shooting SG for them as Butler mans the SF position, heck they even get a 3pt shooting combo forward on an expiring out of the deal.

I think if Sexton was in this year's FA as a RFA, he'd get maxed out by someone. I think next year with it being a much more loaded FA class I don't think he'd get maxed out. Now do I think he could still get a 4/100 offer, I could see it, but I think that unless he makes strides as a passer and defensively, which based on his work ethic and drive to improve his areas of weaknesses I wouldn't be surprised if he did, then that's probably the max he gets and probably closer to 4/80. Now if he does make those strides then he proves his max worth and the Cavs can't really complain about paying him if he's worth it.

Here's the thing about Duncan, he'd have to agree to come here, for a contract we'd want to sign him to. We've won 20 games three seasons in a row. We at least need to be close to .500 before that becomes a thing. Also, the Heat have Bam and Butler already. They can't trade for Sexton while shipping out Herro and Duncan.

As far as free agency, young guys get offer sheets they haven't earned all the time, especially when there's a good FA class and teams miss on their primary targets.

FWIW, I think a trade to Cleveland might do Herro some good. Not every 20 year old was made to be rich, famous, and live in South Beach.

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[JonFromVA]

Sure.

This board is going to be unbearable after Sexton is traded.

it's praising a play that's so basic it's expected out of high schoolers.

The defender came off Green because Garland made it look like he was going to either drive around him or pass to the corner. He also beat his man off the dribble ... easily.

Admittedly, this isn't much of a highlight from Darius. He's struggled, but a lot of NBA players have struggled in the same situation and he doesn't seem to be having a lot of fun out there. Maybe he's decided to act more serious? Or maybe it's Pops riding them hard?

This all came very easy to Kyrie who will tell you himself he doesn't need other players to score the basketball, but most NBA players need practice time with new teammates, actual plays to run/execute, time to learn opponents/rules, etc, etc; and DG was rushed from the Select team in to these exhibitions.

And I'd just caution that before anyone suggests replacing Garland with Josh Magette who looked wonderful running the garbage time crew to consider that a) it was garbage time, b) Magette is 31, c) he couldn't even get a shot in the NBA before he was 28, d) he has experience playing in the Euroleague.

Dealing with new challenges and some actual pressure for a change isn't easy, but hopefully it will be be beneficial somewhere down the line.

[Revenged25]

He's obviously available. I agree that what's been offered isn't particularly appealing (although getting Herro back AND getting of off Love's second year isn't something I'd be too quick to reject). The Cavs should absolutely squeeze the Knicks for Barrett (who I think is the only realistic target in that tier).

Having said that, there's a difference between waiting past the draft, when you can see who fell to No. 3, and waiting past the team option dates for Dragic and Iggy. If the Knicks aren't ever going to put Barrett on the table, then you need someone else to start at the wing and it would be great if that guy was more of an outside shooter like Herro.

There are a couple of self-evident problems with bringing Sexton back as a starter next to Garland, and before the usual suspects chime in with trade Garland, you need to identify the attainable PG who the Cavs can play alongside Sexton. If you move Sexton to the bench in a contract year, to play behind someone who is more limited offensively, how does that go?

I'm also not buying the notion that his trade market is going to reflect his RFA market. There's a difference between parting with a guy you've identified as part of your core (Barrett), or parting with lottery picks in an upcoming draft, and throwing a bag of money at a guy who may, or may not, be worth it. Dumb teams talk themselves into doing it all the time and it only takes one.

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IMO trades need to involve Barrett/Ingram/MPJ level players, even if the Cavs need to add a minor asset due to positional/contract value differences.

I think getting of Love's contract makes sense if they have an idea of who they are targeting in FA next year with a good chance of signing. If they are getting off of it just to accept bad contracts and get more assets they are just admitting they spinning their wheels and shouldn't even extend Allen. Also I don't think Herro is more than a bench 3pt shooter, maybe topping out as Redick. If the Cavs don't want to water down Sexton's value by attaching Love but the Heat were still interested, I'd have them approach Robinson in regards to a S&T to the Cavs. If he's willing to sign a market standard contract, looks to be about 4/70-80 based on recent signings, then ship out Sexton + Prince to the Heat for Robinson in a S&T. Cavs get a 2-way SF/SG and the Heat get their dominant scorer while still having Herro who can be the 3pt shooting SG for them as Butler mans the SF position, heck they even get a 3pt shooting combo forward on an expiring out of the deal.

I think if Sexton was in this year's FA as a RFA, he'd get maxed out by someone. I think next year with it being a much more loaded FA class I don't think he'd get maxed out. Now do I think he could still get a 4/100 offer, I could see it, but I think that unless he makes strides as a passer and defensively, which based on his work ethic and drive to improve his areas of weaknesses I wouldn't be surprised if he did, then that's probably the max he gets and probably closer to 4/80. Now if he does make those strides then he proves his max worth and the Cavs can't really complain about paying him if he's worth it.

Here's the thing about Duncan, he'd have to agree to come here, for a contract we'd want to sign him to. We've won 20 games three seasons in a row. We at least need to be close to .500 before that becomes a thing. Also, the Heat have Bam and Butler already. They can't trade for Sexton while shipping out Herro and Duncan.

FWIW, I think a trade to Cleveland might do Herro some good. Not every 20 year old was made to be rich, famous, and live in South Beach.

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I'm pretty sure I stated that the Cavs should have the Heat approach Robinson about it, since they can still discuss contracts with him and his agent I think, and see if he'd be willing to do a S&T to Cleveland and the contract for it.

I also said that the trade would be for Robinson and Robinson alone. I said they would still have Robinson to play the 3pt shooting SG role next to Butler.

So let me break it down:

Cavs have Miami talk to and verify Robinson is fine with a S&T at 4/80 to the Cavs.

Cavs trade: Sexton/Prince
Cavs get: S&T Robinson (4/80)

Heat trade: S&T Robinson (4/80)
Heat get: Sexton/Prince

So Cavs get the wing they need that can shoot a high 3pt% and allows the roster of Garland/Okoro/Robinson/Mobley/Allen decide if Garland can really lead the team with a roster more suited to his supposed skills.

Heat get their much needed 2nd scoring option next to Butler, they don't have to worry about paying Sexton/Robinson/Butler/Bam going forward which would put them way over the tax, but they still have a reliable 3pt shooter in the roster in Herro who will likely command a much smaller contract than Robinson did when it comes time to extend him.

[Revenged25]

This board is going to be unbearable after Sexton is traded.

it's praising a play that's so basic it's expected out of high schoolers.

The defender came off Green because Garland made it look like he was going to either drive around him or pass to the corner. He also beat his man off the dribble ... easily.

Admittedly, this isn't much of a highlight from Darius. He's struggled, but a lot of NBA players have struggled in the same situation and he doesn't seem to be having a lot of fun out there. Maybe he's decided to act more serious? Or maybe it's Pops riding them hard?

This all came very easy to Kyrie who will tell you himself he doesn't need other players to score the basketball, but most NBA players need practice time with new teammates, actual plays to run/execute, time to learn opponents/rules, etc, etc; and DG was rushed from the Select team in to these exhibitions.

And I'd just caution that before anyone suggests replacing Garland with Josh Magette who looked wonderful running the garbage time crew to consider that a) it was garbage time, b) Magette is 31, c) he couldn't even get a shot in the NBA before he was 28, d) he has experience playing in the Euroleague.

Dealing with new challenges and some actual pressure for a change isn't easy, but hopefully it will be be beneficial somewhere down the line.

This is the same type of play Sexton made in the last month when Garland was out and Okoro looked his best offensively during that time. I'm happy Garland played well this game, but I'm not going to get excited for a play that I think should be expected as the standard.

Now if the person he passed to was a cutter from the corner rather than someone sitting under the hoop who's guy stepped up then I'd agree it was great court vision, but this just didn't feel all that special.

[Stillwater]

He averaged over 6 FTs s game. What are you even talking about?

Look, anyone who has watched these games gets why team USA is struggling against the better international teams. They're treating this like an all star game and the other teams are not. Only Green and Bam are playing hard on defense. The rest of these guys are all conserving energy and hoping someone else closes out on shooters.

When it comes to offense, you have a bunch of shoot first players who aren't playing as a unit. Opposing teams are blitzing the primary ball handler and the guys on team USA aren't doing a very good job of showing and helping him out. Dame has never looked less like a PG. Almost no one is making the extra pass. Durant and Garland, in very limited minutes, seem like the only guys who are trying to facilitate. I mean look at the assist numbers for starters.

Team USA still has the most talent, but they're not playing as a cohesive unit. The better international teams are. The idea that adding Sexton to the mix would fix that is preposterous. They have a dozen better versions of Sexton on that roster already.

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Lol as often as he attacks he should be getting to the line12 to 15 times a game thats at least another 10 pts a game and it matters

Yeah, he should go to line 2-5 more times than Harden, lead the league in free throws, and then we should build a statute for him.

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But that is the point we are talking about no? that these ""Star players"" expect cheap fouls they dont deserve and in the NBA the fact Sexton doesnt get them proves the problem is often more an officiating bias than anything else whereas many of the fouls that Harden goes to the stripe for dont get called for players on bad teams but there are plenty of uncalled actual fouls that many less than star level players complain about justifiably

[JonFromVA]

A not crap article/response by Fedor on the Sexton situation:

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/07/collin-sexton-trade-a-possibility-for-the-cleveland-cavaliers-its-complicated.html

Sounds to me like Sexton might be available, but not for the crap offers we've seen posted anywhere.

The Cavs are certainly going to give every indication that they're not desperate to trade Collin, but everyone in the league understands the situation with Sexland and the upcoming draft; and that they may very well trade Collin for the best available package.

The trick is, they're probably not looking for a draft pick unless they can guarantee perhaps a couple of specific players would be available. They'd presumably prefer a veteran that would fit well and help push the team forward, and of course ideally they'd love to swap Collin for an All-Star caliber player as they claim ... but it wouldn't surprise me if they pull off some non-obvious/clever/multi-team deal that doesn't get us exactly what we want but gets us some off-the-radar players that the Cavs happen to like and/or have been tracking.

They don't have to make a move. They don't have to bet on Jaylen Green or Suggs being a better fit; but competent teams do have to make bets and make them when they have the most impact.

What's perhaps most important is what's been communicated to Altman. If his "clock" has been reset thanks to the lottery win and the organization is truly committed to wait on another 19 year old to figure things out his choices are going to look very different than if Altman feels pressure to get the team in the playoffs next season and needs to scrape together a competent/functional team and feels he has no choice but to trade the pick to get there.

Regardless the Cavs do have to start asking questions about who's going to get paid and how much. Allen, Sexton, Garland, Okoro, and the #3 pick can't all be making max money. Maybe if Allen and Sexton were willing to accept deals at around $20M or under there'd be a path forward? The first big test will be deciding if we're going to draft Mobley if he's there and then deciding what to do with Allen.

[JonFromVA]

it's praising a play that's so basic it's expected out of high schoolers.

The defender came off Green because Garland made it look like he was going to either drive around him or pass to the corner. He also beat his man off the dribble ... easily.

Admittedly, this isn't much of a highlight from Darius. He's struggled, but a lot of NBA players have struggled in the same situation and he doesn't seem to be having a lot of fun out there. Maybe he's decided to act more serious? Or maybe it's Pops riding them hard?

This all came very easy to Kyrie who will tell you himself he doesn't need other players to score the basketball, but most NBA players need practice time with new teammates, actual plays to run/execute, time to learn opponents/rules, etc, etc; and DG was rushed from the Select team in to these exhibitions.

And I'd just caution that before anyone suggests replacing Garland with Josh Magette who looked wonderful running the garbage time crew to consider that a) it was garbage time, b) Magette is 31, c) he couldn't even get a shot in the NBA before he was 28, d) he has experience playing in the Euroleague.

Dealing with new challenges and some actual pressure for a change isn't easy, but hopefully it will be be beneficial somewhere down the line.

This is the same type of play Sexton made in the last month when Garland was out and Okoro looked his best offensively during that time. I'm happy Garland played well this game, but I'm not going to get excited for a play that I think should be expected as the standard.

Now if the person he passed to was a cutter from the corner rather than someone sitting under the hoop who's guy stepped up then I'd agree it was great court vision, but this just didn't feel all that special.

I watched the play on my TV from the cable feed, not my PC. I think there was some nuance there that you will often see from Garland and not from Sexton, but whatever.

Something to watch, but Garland wasn't just going to his floater automatically. He was trying to finish around the rim and a couple of times tried to double clutch his attempt and missed ugly. Maybe he was trying to draw contact and FIBA refs would have none of that, but it might be a sign of a change in emphasis for DG.