Trade Ideas

[JonFromVA]

Spurs are reportedly interested in Cedi. I add our first and the Spurs 2nd to turn him into Vassell.

I've no idea what the Spurs are up to, but I'd think they'd want to keep what little youth they've got and build with it.

Does Pops want to go through a rebuild? Or would he rather look to add vets to improve the team? Might he even retire?

[KuruptedCav]

Spurs are reportedly interested in Cedi. I add our first and the Spurs 2nd to turn him into Vassell.

That rumor makes me wonder, because who is interested in just Cedi?

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL


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[jbk1234]

Spurs are reportedly interested in Cedi. I add our first and the Spurs 2nd to turn him into Vassell.

That rumor makes me wonder, because who is interested in just Cedi?

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL


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Passable defender, which for a bench player is fine.

[LivingLegend]

Spurs are reportedly interested in Cedi. I add our first and the Spurs 2nd to turn him into Vassell.

That rumor makes me wonder, because who is interested in just Cedi?

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL


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I 100% believe this lol If Cedi played for the Pelicans, he would be considered a prime trade target for the Cavs at the deadline and people would love him

[toooskies]

That rumor makes me wonder, because who is interested in just Cedi?

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL


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I 100% believe this lol If Cedi played for the Pelicans, he would be considered a prime trade target for the Cavs at the deadline and people would love him

He'd be competitive with Terrence Ross, for sure. But I'm not sure anyone's itching to get him.

[JonFromVA]

That rumor makes me wonder, because who is interested in just Cedi?

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL

I 100% believe this lol If Cedi played for the Pelicans, he would be considered a prime trade target for the Cavs at the deadline and people would love him

Here's hoping Koby Altman's thinking goes a little deeper than just trying to check boxes as he considers which players he might add. Personally, I'm not wasting my time deep diving on any of these guys until I see the WojBomb.

Heck, Windler is another wing on the roster with length that can shoot too, but JBB can't/won't give him steady minutes. Right or wrong, JBB needs some players on his bench he trusts.

[LivingLegend]

A catch and shoot 6’7” small forward who is a plus defender on a reasonable contract. If he wasn’t a Cav, we’d look at him and go “maybe, except the length of the contract.” LoL

I 100% believe this lol If Cedi played for the Pelicans, he would be considered a prime trade target for the Cavs at the deadline and people would love him

Here's hoping Koby Altman's thinking goes a little deeper than just trying to check boxes as he considers which players he might add. Personally, I'm not wasting my time deep diving on any of these guys until I see the WojBomb.

Heck, Windler is another wing on the roster with length that can shoot too, but JBB can't/won't give him steady minutes. Right or wrong, JBB needs some players on his bench he trusts.

Agreed. Its going to be a player out of left field. I hate the Schroeder rumor because he needs the ball in his hands to be effective and quite frankly he has been bad this year (and last).

I, however, would love to add Luke Kennard. I think he would be a real difference maker on the wing.

[JonFromVA]

I 100% believe this lol If Cedi played for the Pelicans, he would be considered a prime trade target for the Cavs at the deadline and people would love him

Here's hoping Koby Altman's thinking goes a little deeper than just trying to check boxes as he considers which players he might add. Personally, I'm not wasting my time deep diving on any of these guys until I see the WojBomb.

Heck, Windler is another wing on the roster with length that can shoot too, but JBB can't/won't give him steady minutes. Right or wrong, JBB needs some players on his bench he trusts.

Agreed. Its going to be a player out of left field. I hate the Schroeder rumor because he needs the ball in his hands to be effective and quite frankly he has been bad this year (and last).

I, however, would love to add Luke Kennard. I think he would be a real difference maker on the wing.

lol, are the Clippers trying to tank this season? Otherwise, I'm not sure why they would still be interested in moving Kennard. He seems to be having a great season for them.

[LivingLegend]

Here's hoping Koby Altman's thinking goes a little deeper than just trying to check boxes as he considers which players he might add. Personally, I'm not wasting my time deep diving on any of these guys until I see the WojBomb.

Heck, Windler is another wing on the roster with length that can shoot too, but JBB can't/won't give him steady minutes. Right or wrong, JBB needs some players on his bench he trusts.

Agreed. Its going to be a player out of left field. I hate the Schroeder rumor because he needs the ball in his hands to be effective and quite frankly he has been bad this year (and last).

I, however, would love to add Luke Kennard. I think he would be a real difference maker on the wing.

lol, are the Clippers trying to tank this season? Otherwise, I'm not sure why they would still be interested in moving Kennard. He seems to be having a great season for them.

I heard he was on the block at some point dont know if thats still true but everybody has a price.

[KuruptedCav]

If Gilbert tells Altman that he’s willing to chew on $250,000,000 worth of luxury tax payments over the next five years to win a ring.

Does CJ McCollum make sense? If not, then who?


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[El Hespiritu]

In my arrogant opinion, we can't know yet how many or what kind of players should we take for middle/long term staying.
Not until we know what eventually happens with Collin, Ricky and Amor at least,

If we want them back for next season, it's one thing.
If we don't want them (or them not wanting to stay) it's an entirely different animal.

My educated guess is we won't bring anyone else looking relevant for the rotation this deadline.

At the very best, some market-bargain can break out in the last moment (there are teams with some discontented players and coaches discontent with some players) so Koby could dig on that just because assets regardless the fit or whatever.

If not, we might try some deep bench move just because you never know... maybe you can dig some gold bringing an underdog and if he ends up being so irrelevant as the guy you gave up, not a big issue.

I want out not a single guy from our current main 10-11 rotational guys (I count TweedleDean and EDavis in).

If we can get something valuable in exchange of any of the rest, I'd give a try but no sweating too much on it.

[toooskies]

If Gilbert tells Altman that he’s willing to chew on $250,000,000 worth of luxury tax payments over the next five years to win a ring.

Does CJ McCollum make sense? If not, then who?


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To trade for McCollum you still need to send out a good bit of salary, and his salary is only growing gradually. You can get into the tax, but you're only adding $5m or so when trading salary for salary for him. But every trade you can escalate salary by 25%, so trade frequently!

To max out cash outlays, you probably want to trade for guys due big raises in the offseason. Jalen Brunson is a top target. Anfernee Simons. Go overpay a guy on a max contract. Bring back Sexton too. See if you can trade for Miles Bridges, DeAndre Ayton, etc. Kenrich Williams and Lu Dort are on bargain contracts and will want to get paid. If possible, trade for a guy who you can pay the max but may not end up deserving it (i.e. Haliburton). Then pay him.

On top of that, find a guy making slightly less than $9m to fit into the Rubio DPE. Then trade Rubio for someone making $20m+. Squeeze a guy into the Javale McGee $4.2m exception while you're at it. Cut Kevin Pangos and replace him with some other guy, his cap hit still stays!

And the big one, go offer Kevin Love++ for Bradley Beal and enjoy the super-terrible max contract. Maybe DeAaron Fox if that doesn't work out.

[toooskies]

In my arrogant opinion, we can't know yet how many or what kind of players should we take for middle/long term staying.
Not until we know what eventually happens with Collin, Ricky and Amor at least,

If we want them back for next season, it's one thing.
If we don't want them (or them not wanting to stay) it's an entirely different animal.

My educated guess is we won't bring anyone else looking relevant for the rotation this deadline.

At the very best, some market-bargain can break out (there are teams with some discontented players and coaches discontent with some players) and Koby could dig on that just because assets regardless the fit or whatever.

If not, we might try some deep bench move just because you never know... maybe you can dig some gold bringing an underdog and if he ends up being so irrelevant as the guy you gave up, not a big issue.

Standing pat until the buyout market isn't the worst idea, depending on what happens with Gary Harris or Goran Dragic.

[LivingLegend]

In my arrogant opinion, we can't know yet how many or what kind of players should we take for middle/long term staying.
Not until we know what eventually happens with Collin, Ricky and Amor at least,

If we want them back for next season, it's one thing.
If we don't want them (or them not wanting to stay) it's an entirely different animal.

My educated guess is we won't bring anyone else looking relevant for the rotation this deadline.

At the very best, some market-bargain can break out in the last moment (there are teams with some discontented players and coaches discontent with some players) so Koby could dig on that just because assets regardless the fit or whatever.

If not, we might try some deep bench move just because you never know... maybe you can dig some gold bringing an underdog and if he ends up being so irrelevant as the guy you gave up, not a big issue.

I want out not a single guy from our current main 10-11 rotational guys (I count TweedleDean and EDavis in).

If we can get something valuable in exchange of any of the rest, I'd give a try but no sweating too much on it.

Good point, there is always going to be a player or two at the deadline that isnt on the radar right now who teams might be willing to dump for nothing just to create roster space. A guy like Robert Covington might be a roster cut, who knows.

Good news for the Cavs--those type of veteran cap cuts are the exact type of player they need to bring in IMO.

They should be in good shape either way. Best to sit tight and have the deal/player fall into their laps over pushing the issue

[El Hespiritu]

No idea what's Altman's plan but I agree both of you: we're playing fine enough and we deal a cap comfortable enough to not have any sort of trade urge.

Even if we aren't the most attractive market ever we're entitled to think about obtaining assets instead of giving them up. We could get some fine player almost for free or we can stay as we are... both works for me.

There is a recurrent concept at Spanish Forum we call pajitrades (roughly transl: wanky-trades or Jerking trades off).

Basically: trade ideas with neither foundation nor even sense beyond personal taste, bias, filias and phobias.

These are mine:


Bol Bol we could get him in exchange of basically nothing. Nobody even knows how bad his foot injury is and there is bad gossip about his personality.


MonTrollzel is too valuable to come for free but he's one punch at the face over some teammate or coach ahead to be kicked out from WAS. He could ending up cheaper than we think.

Yep... I know would be dumb messing with locker-room balance with such (apparently) problematic guys. I told you wanky trades don't need to have sense.

If you want more healthy attitudes (at least with teammates and coaches):


Wishful thinking at its best. Now way Fincho let out the best player he has to make up for KAT's frailties and Vandarra himself probably wouldn't switch a starting spot at MIN for a bench role at Ohio but dreaming is for free.


Same. No way MIN let El Motivao Beverly out and he would play here a more minor rol. I just love the guy.

[LivingLegend]

Well...watching the Cavs play 1 QTR of basketball without Garland should light a fire under Kobys butt to find a secondary shot creator on the wing.

This team is lost without Garland and Rondo has proven so far to be a Great Value Ricky Rubio.

When you have so many players on the floor who cant create their own shot....well..it looks like a 17pt quarter.

[mcfly1204]

Well...watching the Cavs play 1 QTR of basketball without Garland should light a fire under Kobys butt to find a secondary shot creator on the wing.

This team is lost without Garland and Rondo has proven so far to be a Great Value Ricky Rubio.

When you have so many players on the floor who cant create their own shot....well..it looks like a 17pt quarter.

To be fair, last night we were missing our starting PG (Garland), backup PG (Rubio), and a starting combo guard (Sexton). The fact that we pulled out the win starting Cedi at PG is kind of amazing.

[toooskies]

Well...watching the Cavs play 1 QTR of basketball without Garland should light a fire under Kobys butt to find a secondary shot creator on the wing.

This team is lost without Garland and Rondo has proven so far to be a Great Value Ricky Rubio.

When you have so many players on the floor who cant create their own shot....well..it looks like a 17pt quarter.

To be fair, last night we were missing our starting PG (Garland), backup PG (Rubio), and a starting combo guard (Sexton). The fact that we pulled out the win starting Cedi at PG is kind of amazing.

It definitely is! Even though they were missing their #1 and #2 scorers (Zion and Ingram).

But we aren't getting our backup PG or starting combo guard back this year, both are free agents, and we don't know what our starting PG needs to get over his current injury, so if we care about results this year we might want to make a move.

[LivingLegend]

Well...watching the Cavs play 1 QTR of basketball without Garland should light a fire under Kobys butt to find a secondary shot creator on the wing.

This team is lost without Garland and Rondo has proven so far to be a Great Value Ricky Rubio.

When you have so many players on the floor who cant create their own shot....well..it looks like a 17pt quarter.

To be fair, last night we were missing our starting PG (Garland), backup PG (Rubio), and a starting combo guard (Sexton). The fact that we pulled out the win starting Cedi at PG is kind of amazing.

True, but we were playing the 2nd worst team in basketball without their #1 or #2 players. We should have easily been able to get by with a 10-20 point win without Garland.

There is just noooooobody on this team who can create their own shot off the dribble besides Garland/Cedi.

Watching Rondo/Okoro/Stevens/Love/Allen on the floor together was painful. Everyone taking 2 dribbles and stop because none of them can dribble well enough to put a cross over on a guy and beat their man to the bucket for a shot attempt or shoot well enough to keep them honest.

Oh yeah, WHERE IS DYLAN WINDLER. When your 9/31 from 3 and struggling to generate offense it sure would be nice to bring a good shooter off the bench to help stretch the floor. If only we had that option instead of watching Rondo/Okoro/Stevens run into brick walls trying to drive by defenders all game because they cant dribble or shoot.

[jbk1234]

Well...watching the Cavs play 1 QTR of basketball without Garland should light a fire under Kobys butt to find a secondary shot creator on the wing.

This team is lost without Garland and Rondo has proven so far to be a Great Value Ricky Rubio.

When you have so many players on the floor who cant create their own shot....well..it looks like a 17pt quarter.

To be fair, last night we were missing our starting PG (Garland), backup PG (Rubio), and a starting combo guard (Sexton). The fact that we pulled out the win starting Cedi at PG is kind of amazing.

True, but we were playing the 2nd worst team in basketball without their #1 or #2 players. We should have easily been able to get by with a 10-20 point win without Garland.

There is just noooooobody on this team who can create their own shot off the dribble besides Garland/Cedi.

Watching Rondo/Okoro/Stevens/Love/Allen on the floor together was painful. Everyone taking 2 dribbles and stop because none of them can dribble well enough to put a cross over on a guy and beat their man to the bucket for a shot attempt or shoot well enough to keep them honest.

Oh yeah, WHERE IS DYLAN WINDLER. When your 9/31 from 3 and struggling to generate offense it sure would be nice to bring a good shooter off the bench.

The real red flag was Mobley going 1-7 and scoring 4 points in 22 minutes. I hope it's Garland's absence and not the rookie wall we're looking at.