BadMofoPimp wrote:Ben can wear a headband again. He will be more motivated. LOL
He was wearing it all year.
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what would jack bauer do? wrote:I take Wallace over Hughes any day of the week because he's an iron man and he plays hard every night.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Ben can wear a headband again. He will be more motivated. LOL
thabolosha wrote:question for cavs fans? why is it that you don't like drew gooden? i would consider him to be a nice double double guy. was there something that hindered him? i think he'll do fine in chicago and take away pressure from our perimeter guys.
also do you think hughes is more effetive as a slasher? is he a spot up shooter or a drive and shoot guy.
just a few questions to figure out how these guys will fit in our system. itz gonna be krazy trying to find time to play hughes tho.
yungal07 wrote:Gooden is a flat out better player than Ben. I don't see the point.
LoveThemCavs wrote:To the Bulls fans, telling us how trashy Ben Wallace is going to be here. We pretty much know what we're getting into with him. I don't expect some all world type thing to occur overnight. I think the best thing is the pieces involved Hughes, Gooden, Wallace, Szczerbiak, West. Those guys get a much needed change of scenery. Thats whats the best part of this deal. Good luck to you guys with Hughes/Gooden. I think you'll get back in the playoffs now.
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yea i don't understand why cleveland would let gooden go for aging bw and joe smooth. it makes no sense at all.
Joe Smooth as you call him is a better player right now at his age than Drew Gooden..thabolosha wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
yea i don't understand why cleveland would let gooden go for aging bw and joe smooth.
I think we ended up accomplishing what we needed to do ...this gives us the
versatility that we need in the low post, and allows us to play small much more effectively.
Let me lay out the facts ...this team couldn't stand Drew Gooden's game, not in the least. His lack of consistency and the one thing he is consistent with is his complete lack of understanding of how to play any form of team defense. He contributes nothing to this team. And I'll point out, Lebron had had his fill of the Drew show ...he's just not a winning player ...he's a guy that should never be on the roster of any team looking to compete and win at playoff time ...all the guys we got back are WINNERS.
I can say this, Ben Wallace knows how to play a defensive game, one we need desperately next to Z. I think Wallace is a godsend for Z ...he is the EXACT type power forward that Z has needed next to him since he's been here.
Plus, the type center that gives Z fits on the defensive end, os the exact type that Wallace is dominant against. We don't need offense from our power forwards much ..we've needed a polished defensive stalwart at the power forward position. Joe Smith is another local guy that is kind of like Wally ...his deal ends and we have a good shot at keeping them both longer term at much reduced salaries ....plus decent defense and offense when we need it.
WE ARE SO DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED DEFENSIVELY I CAN'T PUT IT IN WORDS RIGHT NOW.
Lebron will be very happy PRIVATELY, that Drew Gooden is gone ....Lebron wants players that he knows will bring it every day ...people he can depend on.
What he'll see is a floor that is spaced better for him offensively, and a couple players that are more dependable from the outside shooting ... on the defensive side he will se MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS ...
Lebron will love the results that come from this trade ...Mike Brown will know what to do with Ben Wallace and Joe Smith, that much I know for sure ...and Ben will not have to worry about anything but what he does best ...
Chicago was a horrid fit for Ben Wallace ....horrid. Couldn't have been a worse fit for his game ...