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Anywho, draft is tn fanatics, let the off-season begin.
Having a Mitchell extension in place woulda been nice but here we go!
Having a Mitchell extension in place woulda been nice but here we go!
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Anywho, draft is tn fanatics, let the off-season begin.
Having a Mitchell extension in place woulda been nice but here we go!
Out of three guys we know worked out w the Cavs (Kel'el Ware, Johnny Furphy, Jaylon Tyson), I think I am vying for Kel'el Ware with my incredible small amount of research. Don't even know if he will be there at 20 tho
I would not be surprised, however if this pick gets traded
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ijspeelman wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Anywho, draft is tn fanatics, let the off-season begin.
Having a Mitchell extension in place woulda been nice but here we go!
Out of three guys we know worked out w the Cavs (Kel'el Ware, Johnny Furphy, Jaylon Tyson), I think I am vying for Kel'el Ware with my incredible small amount of research. Don't even know if he will be there at 20 tho
I would not be surprised, however if this pick gets traded
I'd go with Ware of those three as well, but I like Holmes and Filipowski as better shooting shooting prospects than Ware. (I think Fedor said Filipowski wouldn't come in for a workout, though. And Holmes shut down his workouts after a promise from... somewhere.)
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Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
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Woj also reporting Kenny Atkinson agreed to a 5 year deal.
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Woj also reporting Kenny Atkinson agreed to a 5 year deal.
But did he sign it, Hornets fans want to know

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I'm sure he will in the coming days lolKuruptedCav wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Woj also reporting Kenny Atkinson agreed to a 5 year deal.
But did he sign it, Hornets fans want to know
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Yeah, in shoes he's probably closer to 6'7".jbk1234 wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
I honestly don't see where he gets minutes if the Cavs stand pat with the roster. Mitchell, Strus, Levert, and Okoro are all ahead of him on the wing. That is before Wade is mentioned as getting minutes at 3.
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Yeah, in shoes he's probably closer to 6'7".jbk1234 wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
I honestly don't see where he gets minutes if the Cavs stand pat with the roster. Mitchell, Strus, Levert, and Okoro are all ahead of him on the wing. That is before Wade is mentioned as getting minutes at 3.
Well, he does project to be a two-way wing and he averaged almost 20 ppg (on high usage) for Cal. I suspect that March stretch informed the Cavs decision making here. We were abysmal offensively against playoff competition with Okoro and LeVert as our starting 2 and 3. Having a guy who can come in and get going from the wing will stop opposing defenses from cheating onto Mitchell or Garland.
If Okoro's market is soft, he could elect to play on the Q.O. LeVert's on an expiring contract. Even if we don't trade either guy, neither is a lock to be back in the summer of 2025 and we won't have a pick. Having said that, he's older and you're gambling that he can be a better two-way option than Okoro and LeVert real, real soon.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
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JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Another 6'5" wing, wooooo.
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Seems Cavs are being linked to Cam Johnson.jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
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jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
Yep.
I'm still hoping the Cavs throw some future 2nds together to trade back into the draft for Filipowski or Furphy. Or at least a flyer on PJ Hall as a UDFA.
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JujitsuFlip wrote:Seems Cavs are being linked to Cam Johnson.jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
Is Cam more playable in the playoffs than Niang?
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
He measured 6'5.5" without shoes at the combine. That's a legit 6'6". His wingspan is a bit more of an issue at 6'8". One read is he's insurance in case we need to let Okoro or LeVert go, but this strikes me as a pick that gets someone in the front office promoted or fired (especially if a couple of the guys who were still on the board do well for the teams who picked after the Cavs).
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
Only one PF went after 20, Holmes. Cavs didn’t get to work him out. I don’t blame Altman for not drafting a player he didn’t get to know.
I don’t know if a PF was available. Filipkowski is in the board, but, I never saw him as #20 viable.
And yeah, Niang + #20 for DFS would have been slick. Are the Nets ready to sell low yet?
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He shot 44.6% from deep on the Suns run to the Finals, so I'd say yes. He's also not built like an out of shape middle aged man loljbk1234 wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Seems Cavs are being linked to Cam Johnson.jbk1234 wrote:
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
Is Cam more playable in the playoffs than Niang?
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toooskies wrote:jbk1234 wrote:JonFromVA wrote:
Yeah, his measureables are meh to ok, but his brother's play football and it sounds like he's not afraid of contact, driving in the paint, and rebounding. So, that's a plus. He has some all around skills that will keep the development staff busy, but couldn't find anything positive about his defense. If JBB was still the coach that alone would buy him a ticket to the Charge.
I don't think a pick at 20 gets anyone fired. It's a crap shoot especially since we apparently didn't want to draft a PF or a C. I imagine he checked Altman's boxes as far as work ethic and character go.
[waves arms at Niang and then asks]: Why didn't we want to draft a PF? I have to be honest, I would've preferred to attach this pick to Niang for DFS.
Yep.
I'm still hoping the Cavs throw some future 2nds together to trade back into the draft for Filipowski or Furphy. Or at least a flyer on PJ Hall as a UDFA.
Yeah, those guys who wouldn't come in for a workout looking like that decision cost them some money. Cavs could always buy a pick.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Cavs are kicking the tires on getting back into the 2nd round, although we don't have many roster spots left.
1. Mitch
2. Mobley
3. Garland
4. Allen
5. Strus
6. LeVert
7. Wade
8. Okoro - RFA
9. Niang
10. TJ
11. CPJ - partial guarantee
12. Tyson - rook
13. Merrill - non guarantee
14. Bates - RFA
We can obviously carry 21 guys in the summer but we still have a treasure trove of guys waiting to come over to the 15 man roster. I'd say only way Cavs draft a guy tomorrow is if Kenny really likes someone, do it to appease the new coach.
1. Mitch
2. Mobley
3. Garland
4. Allen
5. Strus
6. LeVert
7. Wade
8. Okoro - RFA
9. Niang
10. TJ
11. CPJ - partial guarantee
12. Tyson - rook
13. Merrill - non guarantee
14. Bates - RFA
We can obviously carry 21 guys in the summer but we still have a treasure trove of guys waiting to come over to the 15 man roster. I'd say only way Cavs draft a guy tomorrow is if Kenny really likes someone, do it to appease the new coach.
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Disappointed we didn't take Kyshawn George, personally. Also bummed out how close Knecht came to falling to us, only to miss out at the last minute. Don't know much about the guy we DID pick, but I'm underwhelmed, early on...




