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JujitsuFlip wrote:jbk1234 wrote:it's professional basketball. There's no magical system that's going to prevent opposing teams from making the smart play defensively.
Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
JujitsuFlip wrote:jbk1234 wrote:it's professional basketball. There's no magical system that's going to prevent opposing teams from making the smart play defensively.
Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
Kerr's offense is great about utilizing off ball screens or handoff actions.JonFromVA wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:jbk1234 wrote:it's professional basketball. There's no magical system that's going to prevent opposing teams from making the smart play defensively.
Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
Yeah, Ben Wallace had a cute magical system when defenses used to leave him open and dare him to shoot ... he'd hand the ball off to someone who could shoot and screen their defender.
Yeah, until it counts lol jb's offense was so predictable that 3 post seasons in a row it was the Cavs Achilles heel.toooskies wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:jbk1234 wrote:it's professional basketball. There's no magical system that's going to prevent opposing teams from making the smart play defensively.
Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
The thing about playground ball is... We are good at it.
JujitsuFlip wrote:Yeah, until it counts lol jb's offense was so predictable that 3 post seasons in a row it was the Cavs Achilles heel.toooskies wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
The thing about playground ball is... We are good at it.
They were THE worst offense in the 2023 playoffs... They followed it up by being a bottom 3 offense in the 2024 playoffs.
At some point, PnR and isolation cannot be the entirety of the offensive scheme. Just sucks it took 5 years for Koby to realize that.
toooskies wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:jbk1234 wrote:it's professional basketball. There's no magical system that's going to prevent opposing teams from making the smart play defensively.
Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
The thing about playground ball is... We are good at it.
jbk1234 wrote:toooskies wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Probably a lot more difficult to defend a Steve Kerr style offense than a jb playground offense.
The thing about playground ball is... We are good at it.
This is kind of my point. We have two immensely talented offensive players on the roster and Mobley who we need to make a decision on in terms of position. Any coach worth his weight in salt is going to make sure the secondary action comes off of one of those three with Allen being a very easy release valve if his man leaves to help.
Strus was able to develop a two-man game with Mobley from the elbow. so he got incorporated into the offense. The fact that Okoro didn't do that is less a result of coaching and more a result of Strus having a skill set Okoro doesn't IMO.
Where JBB struggled was not having secondary action in place once the other team sold out to shut down Mitchell and/or Garland. Trapping or pressing your best players 35 feet away from the basket isn't cheating. There are counters to it that the team needs to have in place and ready to go.
JujitsuFlip wrote:I just saw Emoni had surgery too. Hmm, weird timing but hopefully he has a full recovery.
JonFromVA wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:I just saw Emoni had surgery too. Hmm, weird timing but hopefully he has a full recovery.
For his sake, I sure hope he didn't have the surgery done where they just cut it out.
toooskies wrote:JonFromVA wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:I just saw Emoni had surgery too. Hmm, weird timing but hopefully he has a full recovery.
For his sake, I sure hope he didn't have the surgery done where they just cut it out.
Cavs posted he'll be re-evaluated in a month, which means they probably cut part of it out.
Of course, when they do that you're more concerned with longevity than performance, and Emoni's concern right now isn't longevity, it's reaching the NBA level in the first place.
hopefully it is really just a hip bruise and this is precautionary. He did already have 4 fouls too. JujitsuFlip wrote:Leaning on you all to let me know how the new offense looks tonight!
Yeah, looks like Niang and Merrill gonna be fighting for that 11th man spot.toooskies wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Leaning on you all to let me know how the new offense looks tonight!
Mobley came out aggressive in the first half, looked good.
Lots of cutting early.
Garland and Mitchell were pulling from 3 early in the game.
Atkinson went with line change substitutions, mostly. The second five was Jerome/LeVert/Okoro/Wade/TT. Merrill and Niang worked in eventually. Tyson didn't see PT until the 4th.
Niang looks thinner, maybe a bit lighter on his feet on D.
The team kind of stagnated in the second half.
Nice to finally have a semblance of an offense.ijspeelman wrote:
Just two play calls I really liked. I think the second would usually result in either a lob or a pass to the corner.
Also, Mobley looked incredible. Doing a lot of the things we've seen him do in flashes all night. I know it was a point of emphasis to get Mobley running in transition and it looks like he's running down the floor any time he can with or without the ball.
76ciology wrote:Wouldn't Edey have a better chance of winning the scoring battle against Tatum in the post after a switch than Tatum shooting over Edey's 9'6" standing reach?
