gflem wrote:I dont think swapping the 2012 first rounders is really an option. So 2 low first rounders most likely, 2 second rounders and a trade exception for 16 mil. Its better than nothing, and maybe the picks can be moved if needed to push along other acquisitions.
You TOTALLY missed the train here!!!#1 The 2 1st round picks from Miami are for between 2013 & 2017. (The Cavs hold options on them. The Cavs can take the 1st one in 2013 or 2014, and they can take the 2nd one in 2015,16, or 17)
#2 The right to trade 1st round picks in 2012 in very key. It "appears" to be useless when you simply read it in the paper. However, that 2012 pick is the one the traded with Minnesota. So, they actually have the right to exchange picks with Minnesota... not Miami. (In the Beasley trade on Thurday night, Minnesota received a 2nd round pick from Miami, and traded 1st round picks in 2012 - that is what the Cavs now have...only it's an "option," so if the Cavs don't want it, then they keep their own... But, they will want it.)
#3 The 2 second round picks. The first is New Orleans' 2012 pick, which will be a high 2nd rounder. The other is a 2013 2nd rounder from OKC...likely later in the round...unless Durant get injured or something.
#4 The trade-exception. A lot of people thought that we should just keep out cap space... about 12.6 million (if delonte were waived). However, the T/E is worth 14.56 million. That means the Cavaliers could trade for Al Jefferson (12 million), and still have 2,56 million for another player. In addition, the Cavs will not release Delonte. They will trade him to a team that needs to shed salary, and they will either get a good player, or picks (from a team that wont make the playoffs). In addition to all of that, the Cavaliers will have the MLE (they are over the cap by 2 million), so they can use that to sign 1 or more players for 5.8 million (MLE can be split).
This is what you have to realize: The Cavaliers won 61 games last season. LeBron didn't do that by himself...even if some people think he did (he thinks so). If the Cavaliers (hypothetically) traded one of Miami's 1st round picks and the TPE to Philly for Iguodala, then the Cavaliers have a very good SF to take the place of LeBron. Keep in mind that Byron Scott likes an up-tempo game, and players who defend. Iggy's biggest strength is his up-tempo game, and his defense. Al Jefferson is unlikely, because he isn't much of a runner. Byron will have the team running, so Jefferson is very unlikely.
Any way, the Cavs could actually be very good next year. It is hard for some people to see without LeBron...but keep in mind that LeBron has been here 7 years and we never won a title... so LeBron is not the be all that ends all; although he'd like you to think he is/was.
The Cavaliers are going to surprise a lot of you next season. Most of you think that they'll be lucky to win 40 games. I am pretty sure that if Grant & co. does as they said (which it appears they are going to, or else they wouldn't have made this move), then the Cavaliers are not going to be a push-over next season.
