David Stern/Chris Paul

shazam · Post #1 » by **shazam** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:30 pm

David Stern needs to get a hold of his league. Now these players are dictating where they want to go,next we will have 5 teams loaded and 20+ teams with crap and guess which category we fall into? It will become like baseball which is ruined due to no cap. Now Chis Paul is pulling a Lebron, no wonder beacuse now LRMR represnets him now theres a surprise. I think Lebron was quoted as saying. " Cp due whats best for you and your family" interepetation screw over everybody in that katrina ridden state just like i screwed cleveland. Ok, thats fine now if thats the attitude you are going to have MR. Paul I say The Hornets have the same one, I say NO not trade you to your team of choice since you under contract for 2 more years and trade your butt to whoever gives them the best deal even if it is minnesota,memphis, or even russia, becasue that is whats best for their family. Im sick of these idiots dicatting the game and Stern needs to fix it or he will lose his league.

Post #2 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:15 pm

David Stern made the NBA into a star's league by giving them special treatment.

Now the stars are aware of that - and trying to take over the asylum.

Post #3 » by **B Mac** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:53 pm

This has been going on for years unfortunately. This summer has just been worse than most others.

Shaq, Kobe, Garnett, etc... have all asked for trades and basically picked where they wanted to go and changed the landscape of the league when they were traded.

Spider156 · Post #4 » by **Spider156** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:19 pm

So when Lebron is on your team, you don't complain but when he's on another. You DO complain. How does it feel to know your team is at the bottom, we're all "witnesses". You guys deserve it. Now you know how the Nets, Pacers, Minny, Pistons... and basically 20 other teams feel when they don't have a superstar and get destroyed by the refs because of that one person.

Post #5 » by **Rise Against** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:54 pm

Spider156 wrote:So when Lebron is on your team, you don't complain but when he's on another. You DO complain. How does it feel to know your team is at the bottom, we're all "witnesses". You guys deserve it. Now you know how the Nets, Pacers, Minny, Pistons... and basically 20 other teams feel when they don't have a superstar and get destroyed by the refs because of that one person.

Hey genius, every fan base complains one way or another, with or without a superstar. Some just complain more than others.

Post #6 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:45 pm

I'm still trying to figure out how we're complaining about the refs when we haven't played a game without LeBron

tidho · Post #7 » by **tidho** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:00 am

Stern can't really stop 'player collusion'.

All he can do is create disincentives for players to choose to do this kind of thing agan. I have to think they'll work something into the next agreement. In the meantime Paul will be on his new team and another superteam will be on the way.

Post #8 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:08 pm

NO doesn't have to trade Paul no matter how he might wish it.

shazam · Post #9 » by **shazam** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:32 pm

First of to the idiot how said i was complaining about Lebron now playing for another team and not not mime, that has nothing to do with the conversation or the post i made moron. Its about the league and how it will be ruined if it keeps up. Look at baeball, 10,000 a night in small markets who do not get the freaking TV revenue of the yankeess because a zillion people live in NYC, I see the NBA heading down the same path but due to letting players run the asylum. Thats great if you live in NY,LA,Boston,Chicago but if you are minnesota,memphis,toronto, etc you are screwed, and if that is the case just make it a 5 team league and lets see how that works for ya?

mapko81 · Post #10 » by **mapko81** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:47 pm

A lockout is imminent. Owners will hold out until the players are stripped of all this leverage.

Post #11 » by **B Mac** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:25 pm

mapko81 wrote:A lockout is imminent. Owners will hold out until the players are stripped of all this leverage.

I think its pretty clear at this point. No one is happy with what has happened this summer. Its made a joke out of the league.

Post #12 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:18 pm

B Mac wrote:
mapko81 wrote:A lockout is imminent. Owners will hold out until the players are stripped of all this leverage.

I think its pretty clear at this point. No one is happy with what has happened this summer. Its made a joke out of the league.

I agree completely. Especially with the fact that Paul as asked for a trade. I'm sure that the owners are shocked that LeBron has shown this much power not only with his own team but throughout the league.

FUEGO · Post #13 » by **FUEGO** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:56 pm

What's funny is that none of you really see what's going on. Stern doesn't care about what your saying. He's gaining money from this and isn't going to chop down his money flow based on what we think. Fans are looking at this at a basketball stand point and I understand that very much. Stern and the money makers are looking at this as a way to boost their cash flow. This is like with music how Hip Hop now is watered down but it doesn't matter because corporate is getting mad money from it. Old school fans of hip hop and the nba are feeling like this new age stuff is tearing up what the purpose used to be. But that's what happens when corporate america gets a hold on stuff. You guys do not realize if Lebron wasn't bringing in money to Stern he wouldn't have any say so in nothing. Also as far as what shazam was saying about other teamsn being weak, hasn't it always been that way in every sport? There are teams that are guranteed to be wack every season. Nfl we know the browns arent gonn abe on top, but the Cowboys will be decent. Nba we know LA always has a nasty squad. Yankees will always be top in mlb. This is just the way it is.

Post #14 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:12 pm

Ah yes, more elementary analysis. Stern is not invested in the league. The owners of the league hired Stern. Now, if you said that the league as a whole would do better with just a few popular teams I might agree with you. But at the moment, I believe that it will do worse.

FUEGO · Post #15 » by **FUEGO** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:21 pm

Stern is still making bank. If you don't think he is your crazy. The NBA is changing the same way it did before

FUEGO · Post #16 » by **FUEGO** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:23 pm

IT'S FUNNY TOO how lol you guys throw perosnal attacks on people but when they do it to you, everyone runs and bans them.

Post #17 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:40 pm

What personal attack? I still contend that Stern is an employee I also contend that your analysis was remedial at best. I can't see how you'd argue either point.

gflem · Post #18 » by **gflem** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:14 pm

I said it a few months back and I will say it again. Stern's ass is on the line here. If there is a lengthy lockout I think we may well see him forced out after play resumes. He has lost control, and imo the owners confidence. He was hired by the owners of the NBA, more than half in other words.
If the league is reduced to 5-8 mega teams the other 20+ owners will be rather unhappy dont you think? Like Outlaw said the situation will be addressed in the next CBA, and if it leads to a prolonged lockout to get it done it will totally undermine the confidence the team owners once had in him.
Nobody is irreplaceable, and up to now Stern has served the team owners well, but if he wants to keep his job he better keep things civil and get the next CBA done quickly and quietly.

FUEGO · Post #19 » by **FUEGO** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:58 pm

Outlaw you need to relax cause we know why your angry. You was riding high with Lebron until July 5. Please don't sit here and act like you were always against him. Iknow your hurt cause it's a big blow to your squad. I spoke the truth and if I was to come at you and say you were remedial I would get a ban because that's what you do here. Talk ish and then ban lol. It's all good Im going to let you sit there angry forever and let it be. But the NBA is changing like I said we may not like it but the world will like it. There are more bandwagon people then true fans in the world and they always win. As I said before look at the music industry how things have changed for the worst but yet the world still likes it cause it's a different generation. The name calling doesn;t need to be just because I share a difference of opinion with you homie. Breathe easy at the end of the day none of us know any of these players and they don't pay our bills.

FUEGO · Post #20 » by **FUEGO** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:02 pm

Oh and gflem I can understand the beef because yes it is wack to have 5 teams and the rest of the league sucks. But what sport do you know that every team is equally talented? How do we know there's not gonna be more talented players to come out to balance out? I just think that everyone is reading too much into this. The teams that had the money did that and thats it. If the Cavs did the same thing everyone here would be cool with it.