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Hi Guys,

Just wondering if Cleveland still have their draft picks for the upcoming 2011 draft or did they trade them away in the past?

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We still have all our picks.

Speaking of the draft, its about time for a dedicated thread, no?

Perry Jones...he's not the second coming of Darius Miles is he?
Kyrie Irving...we wouldn't draft another small guard would we?
Harrison Barnes...never mind, he's aweful and won't come out yet.
Enes Kantor...has been dominating the same league Vitale Potapenko did (I made that up).
Jonas Valanciunas...we wouldn't, would we?
Terrence Jones...NBA comparison Marvin Williams inspires confidence, doesn't it?
Jared Sullinger...is he really over 6'7''?

tidho wrote:Speaking of the draft, its about time for a dedicated thread, no?

Perry Jones...he's not the second coming of Darius Miles is he?
Kyrie Irving...we wouldn't draft another small guard would we?
Harrison Barnes...never mind, he's aweful and won't come out yet.
Enes Kantor...has been dominating the same league Vitale Potapenko did (I made that up).
Jonas Valanciunas...we wouldn't, would we?
Terrence Jones...NBA comparison Marvin Williams inspires confidence, doesn't it?
Jared Sullinger...is he really over 6'7''?

Perry Jones - Looked at his mixtape... Reminds me of Kevin Garnett. Other people say he's in a mold like Durant. Honestly, I could see the second coming of Darius Miles tbh.
Kyrie Irving - If he's there at our pick, he has to be the pick. He might not be as fast as Rose and Rondo but he has the overall tools to be a good PG in this league. He reminds me of Chris Paul.
Harrison Barnes - I was watching his mixtape over this past summer. How did he become the #1 high school player in America? He had no explosiveness whatsoever in the video. Then we he gets to UNC, he gets locked up every game. I bet money he's gonna try to come out anyways despite the bad year.
Enes Kantor - He is a project. His game might take awhile to translate but once it does... He might go on a tear.
Jonas Valanciunas - Zydrunas 2.0? I think so. If Z wasn't slowed down by foot injuries what type of player would he have been? I don't think Jonas will be a star but he'll be a solid big man for some team down the road.
Terrence Jones - comparisons to Marvin Williams and Lamar Odom. He finishes very at the rim and his jumper although ugly does have some consistency. Intriguing pick.
Jared Sullinger - comparisons to Elton Brand. Me? I say Carlos Boozer. He has easily been the best freshman this year. I have debates with my friend. He says his weight and height will hinder him from being effective in the NBA. I don't put much stock into it.

My two cents.

This year's draft could be one of the worst in recent memory. Terrence Jones, Kyrie Irving and Sullinger are the only players I am sold on. Perry Jones has the most "upside" of anyone but he could very easily turn out to be a Darius Miles/Demarr Johnson as he could a KG/Durant type.

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We have to go BPA regardless of position because we dont have any guys that are good enough to block a prospect.

Exactly. BPA because nobody on our team is that great where we don't need the position.

BPA.

I think that the biggest problem with P. Jones is his attitude and work ethic. If we got rid of JJ and kept AV, I feel like he could be a worthwhile pick. In Scott's offense he could play as a PF and still work on the perimeter (which is apparently the ONLY thing he wants to do), but still use his ridiculous length to play D. I say if we keep AV because his hustle and work ethic would be a great influence on Jones.

But I still have to say that if we picked #1, I would take Irving and not look back.

I am pulling for Irving with the top pick. When was the last time that Cleveland had an actual PG with the quickness to break down a defense? Mo should be able to fetch us something over the summer.

I have to agree with taking the BPA.

You have to use BPA as your strategy.

All other things being equal, I want to swing for the fences with Perry Jones rather than more of a sure thing like Sullinger though.

tidho wrote:You have to use BPA as your strategy.

All other things being equal, I want to swing for the fences with Perry Jones rather than more of a sure thing like Sullinger though.

I'm scared of taking Perry Jones. Perry Jones could be the next superstar in the league... He could also be the next big bust journeyman in the league. That's how huge his success-fail ratio is.

Manny Phresh wrote:I'm scared of taking Perry Jones. Perry Jones could be the next superstar in the league... He could also be the next big bust journeyman in the league. That's how huge his success-fail ratio is.

No doubt there is risk involved.
Sullinger projects as a (pre injuries) Elton Brand type. That's a great guy to have, but will he win you a championship? Jones is one of those freaks that could be a top 5 player in the league and win you a title.
...or admittadly, he could be Darius Miles.

jones seems like he has flashes of brilliance in some games and then in other games, seems like he's never played the game before. he scares me to say the least

i'd say start printing the irving jerseys if he hadn't gotten hurt

Idk... I don't think the toe is gonna hurt his stock too much. He should be back in time for the tournament right?

Gordon Bombay wrote:jones seems like he has flashes of brilliance in some games and then in other games, seems like he's never played the game before. he scares me to say the least

i'd say start printing the irving jerseys if he hadn't gotten hurt

He should still be picked if the Cavs have the opportunity.

There is only one guy I want: Kyrie Irving. If he doesn't come out and if we aren't in position to get him, than I will be VERY pissed. If he doesn't come out then I don't care where we pick in the top-5 because there really is no true #1 player after Irving.

If Irving doesn't come out, it'd probably come down to Kanter, T. Jones or maybe Sullinger and Barnes.

I'm not high on Perry Jones, at least as some as other are. I see him as a guy who's going to be stuck between the 3/4 and doesn't do anything to say "hey I can play at the 3/4". He's more of away from the basket 4 and he doesn't do anything special there. He doesn't have the range, handling or defensive ability to play the 3. People want to compare him to Durant but Durant dominated the college game and showed a legit jumpshot with range. Jones is a top-7 prospect but not a for sure fallback option after Irving.

Kemba Walker looks like a solid prospect but he's a lotto point guard who isn't elite at anything. He'll be a nice guard (maybe Darren Collison like?) but not a building block for a franchise.

Motiejunas is talented but I don't want my top-3 being a guy who can only contribute on one of the floor.

Vesely doesn't have a good skillset more like a great athletic tools and potential.

Valanciunas isn't good enough offensively to warrant a top-5 pick.

Josh Selby isn't a top-5 pick but he has the potential to be is a potential sleeper.

For the guys I like:

Terrence Jones isn't at the top of my list but I certainly like him better at the top of the draft then I do most other kids. I don't think he'll be an elite small forward but he has shown all the tools to be a very good one.

I really like Jared Sullinger but we have JJ Hickson. I understand that most will say forget about Hickson but Hickson is 22 and he's shown signs this season of producing at a very high level. I'm iffy about if at this point, as Sullinger is pretty talented, but it'd seem like a waste to draft a guy like Sullinger when we already have a young, talented PF in place. Although the whole Ohio thing would be pretty cool (from Columbus, went to OSU, etc.).

If Irving doesn't come out, Kanter would be the guy I want most. He's a good all-around center and in order to compete in this league, you need good big man. I don't he'll ever be an elite offensive or defensive player, or center for that matter, but he reminds me of an Andrew Bogut type player and I'd take that.

Barnes is incomplete right now, for me.

Good post. I would be looking for Irving as well, but if not available I wouldnt hesitate at taking Sullinger. Hickson is young but has been here long enough to show me more than he has. The best player available sould be drafted regardless of position.
I dont know as much as you about the top candidates as I havent seen many of them play, and obviously I havent seen Kanter but he certainly would fill a position of need here. IF he is as good as whoever else is available when the team drafts it would be hard to pass on a talented big man to draft a smaller player if the team feels they are nearequal in terms of talent.
I have seen most of Sullinger's games and saw a sub par game (till the end anyways) from Walker as well, and I am impressed with Sullinger. He seems to have high bball IQ and his size and touch are impressive. He seems to have a better feel for the game than JJ already.
I guess I just dont think there is anyone on the team currently that should prevent the team from drafting the player who they feel will be the best pro player, I really dont see anyone on this roster who is an all-star player in the near future so how could they block a talented young draft pick from getting pt.

BPA would include Sullinger even if Hickson is here.
Its interesting that he would be the overlap we're concerned about when most people are talking about Irving even though two of our three longest contracts are Boobie and Mo.

As things project right ow I still thing Perry Jones is the right pick. Irving is very good and safer, but doesn't have the ceiling. There are a lot of good teams in the NBA lead by Irving types - Utah, New Orleans, Chicago....but none of the great teams are. I want a guy that can be a top 10 player in the NBA, and it seems like Jones is the only one that's got a shot.

I think I would be fine with Perry Jones. He feels like a bit of a gamble, but he has the tools to be a special player. Is he slated to be a SF in the NBA?