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Raps fan here, just curious. Thanks and congrats on the #1.

I would because the draft is such a crap shoot. You could easily pick somebody at #4 who never cracks a starting lineup. Having said that, I don't think anybody else would agree with me.

Noway. Too soft and too expensive.

I really dislike the suggestions of Bargs, Iggy, Gay, etc for #4. The Cavs have basically nothing to build on so they need to take their time, not trade for an overpaid and overrated player they don't need at the moment.

No offense but hell no.

Exile23 wrote:No offense but hell no.

This.

I agree about not trading our #4 pick for any current players like Gay, Iggy or Bargnani...the ONLY guy I would want in a package for the overall #4 would be OJ Mayo...I think Irving, Mayo and Hickson would be a nice young core to watch develop... one young floor general, one young dynamic wing, one young inside banger...a great start to rebuilding, considering IMO Mayo is better than anyone likely at #4 in this draft, unless for some reason Williams falls to 4...I would rather have Mayo than Kanter too.

I wouldnt trade 32 for Bargnani. He brings negative value.

Triumph36 wrote:Noway. Too soft and too expensive.

I really dislike the suggestions of Bargs, Iggy, Gay, etc for #4. The Cavs have basically nothing to build on so they need to take their time, not trade for an overpaid and overrated player they don't need at the moment.

This quote needs to go on our sticky board please

The first pick in this draft wouldn't net you Rudy Gay, let alone the fourth.

Lol if Bargnani came to Cleveland he would easily be the best player. Cleveland needs all the talent they can get, and as it stands they have no talent.

Barnani is a terrible player and would not be the cavs best player. B davis, irving, varejao, jamison, and hickson are all better players. Bargnani sucks and brings such negative value as a defeder and rebouder that there no way he could start on any contending team.

Roger Murdock wrote:Barnani is a terrible player and would not be the cavs best player. B davis, irving, varejao, jamison, and hickson are all better players. Bargnani sucks and brings such negative value as a defeder and rebouder that there no way he could start on any contending team.

+1 bargnani makes us no better and is way to expensive... i would much rather develop kanter for 10 million cheaper and use that money to sign someone else... let alone kanter may be better anyways

JayFerrari wrote:Lol if Bargnani came to Cleveland he would easily be the best player. Cleveland needs all the talent they can get, and as it stands they have no talent.

pardon me for asking, but does Barganai really change our talent defiency?

Roger Murdock wrote:I wouldnt trade 32 for Bargnani. He brings negative value.

This.

JayFerrari wrote:Lol if Bargnani came to Cleveland he would easily be the best player. Cleveland needs all the talent they can get, and as it stands they have no talent.

This really is dumb logic and just shows that you'd be a terrible business man. Bargnani by himself doesn't add anything and he costs way too much. Sure the Cavs might be a game or 2 better but at this price that doesn't help at all. they need real talent, not one dimensional guys who are paid like stars.

Exile23 wrote:No offense but hell no.

Not a fan of either team per se. But not really a good deal for the Cavs. Not sure they would take Bargs if the Raps gave up their 1st rounder with it. Bargs can score but his contract is rather large.

I would pass. Bargs is a nice player but not what we need on the front line. Would be better to roll the dice with the #4 if we couldn't trade up.

Why even talk about it? Zero chance Toronto trades him for 4th in this draft.

I think overpaid Bargnani and the #5 is closer.

Nothingface wrote:Why even talk about it? Zero chance Toronto trades him for 4th in this draft.

Zero chance Cleveland would even trade a #10 for his worthless ass.