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If true it really makes no sense at all.

There hasn't even been a whisper that we're interested in bringing in any free agents, and that's the only reason you'd need to do that.

Think they are clearing the path for Kyrie to get more PT at PG.

Just give him the minutes.

We have SG minutes to fill and with the compressed season we'll need more depth than usual especially with Kyrie. He's going to hit a serious rookie wall having not played last year.

No reason to cut Baron loose....unless its Andre Miller part 2.

Why not amnesty him? From what I read, we get one amnesty cut every year of the CBA and it only applies to any player currently signed on this team. (Somebody correct me on that if I am wrong) Face it. He's not the future of team. This isn't like the NFL where young QBs needs to be brought in slowly to get the pace of the game, in the NBA, young players can come in from day one and contribute like he's be in the league for awhile. Kyrie Irving can come in right now and run the team. Of course, he'll have some bumps, every player does. Cap Space is never a bad thing to have and you never know what can happen.

He's not the teams future but amnestying him with no guarantee that someone is going to even offer him anything substantial on his deal makes no sense. They might as well try to move him and maybe negotiate a buyout later if it didn't work. He would get 30plus minutes a night at SG

Classy move by Dan Gilbert. Let BD go to a contending team, you know Davis wanted no part of being a Cavalier.

I dont get why Cavs fans want to keep him. He'd help win a handful of meaningless games. Let the young guys run the show and get another top 5 pick this year.

Manny, my understanding is that each team gets to amnesty only one player for the duration of the new cba, and he had to already be under contract when it was ratified. As for Baron, I dont really care either way as long as he doesnt end up with the cHeat.
I thought he would end up in LA with the Lakers, but with the pending CP trade I cant see that happening. I think letting Baron go makes sense in that he would probably help win some games that we otherwise wouldnt, and in a season like this that would be counterproductive for draft position and pt for Irving.
I wonder how this affects what the team is thinking about Sessions and/or Boobie?

If true, then the Cavs basically just got Kyrie Irving for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

B Mac wrote:If true, then the Cavs basically just got Kyrie Irving for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

And they have to pay Davis.

So its the trade you mention, paying Davis, and having Davis.
-or-
The trade, paying, and not having him.

This doesn't improve our situation. Plus we loose the ability to do something else with him.
Only way this helps us is if we use the cap space right now.

IF the Cavs dont want to keep Baron, why not just buy him out? I have read that the Cavs may still have some time to use the TPE, so why not take a big contract player from another team along with a future first(s), then use the amnesty on that player? I wonder if that would even be allowed?
I dont know if a player has to just be under contract with the specific team that uses the amnesty clause to cut him, or if a team can trade for and then use the amnesty on that player. Anybody know anything about that?
The reason I ask, is that if a team has several large contracts that they would like to rid themselves of to pursue FA's next season and can only cut one player with the amnesty clause there may be a market for the Cavs to use their TPE (assuming they do get more time to use it) to help a team dump a very large amount of salary in a very short amount of time.
With several teams vying for Dwight Howard among others, it would seem that there would be a bunch of options to use the TPE in this manner if it is allowed.

If Barron Davis wants out now--- he can take a buyout like Mike Bibby did. No reason to let BD have his cake and eat it too. Unless the CAVs need cap space to make a deal for a good young player--- the CAVs should wait until after this season.

I still think BD playing with Irving has value initially.

Besides, if someone needs BD let them trade for him. To give him up in a shortened season when teams have to push their veterans and injuries are more likely is stupid. Teams who are close this year make reach via a late trade. Anyone know when the trading deadline is this year? How many games in is that?

Dont know about the trade deadline, but with coach Scott saying the other day that he was the best mentor for Irving, I think that pretty says it all in regard to Baron being on the team this year. I just dont see any other team trading for Baron at this point, he cant stay healthy in a regular season, he is (allegedly) already have back problems, and if he doesnt work out for a team that would trade for him, they might wind up wasting their own amnesty trying to correct the mistake of trading for him.
I really think the delay in releasing him is that they are trying to work out a buyout. I am hoping for a buyout so the team saves their amnesty now that they have the TPE they can potentially use the TPE to acquire an overpaid player and picks, then amnesty said overpaid player.

gflem wrote:I really think the delay in releasing him is that they are trying to work out a buyout. I am hoping for a buyout so the team saves their amnesty now that they have the TPE they can potentially use the TPE to acquire an overpaid player and picks, then amnesty said overpaid player.

U think if we bought out BD we'd look to amnesty Jamison?

Kaner wrote:

gflem wrote:I really think the delay in releasing him is that they are trying to work out a buyout. I am hoping for a buyout so the team saves their amnesty now that they have the TPE they can potentially use the TPE to acquire an overpaid player and picks, then amnesty said overpaid player.

U think if we bought out BD we'd look to amnesty Jamison?

I could see it. I like what he does, but his lack of defense and leadership make him expendable to me. I still hope that someone will look to ditch a contract and a pick for him.

How is a buyout prorated for cap purposes? I'd think it has to be spread over the life of the contract including next year's player option. Which means that he'd still be taking up cap next season.

We're better off amnestying Davis before next season and letting Antawn expire. That way we have room for two max deals.

Yes two max deals after this year. Ahhh yes.

I sure hope Howard does not sign with anyone this year and agrees to a long term deal for that one reason alone.

This year we suck
then draft well (J. Lamb)
maybe Sactown makes the playoffs and we get a 10 to 15 pick to for the three spot
and then sign big (Superman).

Sounds like a plan

I know its Cleveland and it will [b]never [/b]happen.

But look I haven't lost faith completely. I'm talking about next year before this year even starts. This Clevelander has evolved to the next level. Wow!

Here's the new city slogen:

There's always two years from now

I didn't say we'd be able to sign two max players next season, just that we can, if we want, have the cap space.

If our picks pan out we'll start looking pretty attractive again. Not suggesting Howard would come here but we'll be in a position to through max offer sheets at RFA's (like Marc Gasol this year) and who knows what will happen. Point is its good to be in a position to do it.

eh, too late anyway...looks like they just used it on BD anyway...that's great though looking forward to watching KI2 start (yeah I just made that up lol)