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Just curious if you guys have any interest in for DeMarcus Cousins for your first round pick?

This isn't the strongest draft and Cousins is a bit of a knucklehead but he's got tons of talent.

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I would do it, but Im not sure about the rest of Cavs fans or FO. Maybe a combination of all our other picks?

I know some fans would be in favor, but I don't want to bet our rebuild and risk our budding team chemistry on whether the Cavs can straighten out Cousins and give him the focus he needs to use his talents effectively on both sides of the court.

Now if the Kings would accept our other 1st round pick and perhaps a return of they one they owe us ... it would be hard to resist the temptation ... but there's probably another lottery team that would bite.

I would do Cousins for our unprotected 2013 1st in a heartbeat. Trade for Cousins, send out Varejao for a starting SF, take a flier on someone with the LA/MIA pick, and watch this team blossom.

Irving/Livingston
Waiters/Ellington
FA or trade/Gee
Thompson/Speights?
Cousins/Zeller

With that being said, I think the asking price for Cousins would be higher.

3 Way

Cavs send 2013 1st and 15th (We are getting the LAL pick) to Sac
Min sends Love to Cle
Sac sends Cousins to Minny

2013 1st, 2013 SAC 1st back is all I'd do.

Im just some guy, but I think Cousins is the better player long term. Cousins/Thompson can play together, same for Varejao/Zeller. That would have to be the deepest big rotation in the league. Give Kyrie a dominant offensive big and its game over.

I would want top 7 protection on the 2013 1st, unprotected in 2014, Sac 1st going back, Memphis 2015 1st. I would even take back some money for a year.

FairWeatherF84 wrote:Im just some guy, but I think Cousins is the better player long term. Cousins/Thompson can play together, same for Varejao/Zeller. That would have to be the deepest big rotation in the league. Give Kyrie a dominant offensive big and its game over.

I would want top 7 protection on the 2013 1st, unprotected in 2014, Sac 1st going back, Memphis 2015 1st. I would even take back some money for a year.

Cousins is not a dominant offensive big. He has some nice moves for a C, but his %s are just awful for someone who is lauded for his ability to score the ball.

Id certainly do it but i dont think the kings would.

no way we can get Cousins for anything reasonable. Yes he's worth going after but I'm not overpaying for a crazy outspoken nut.

Kaner wrote:

FairWeatherF84 wrote:Im just some guy, but I think Cousins is the better player long term. Cousins/Thompson can play together, same for Varejao/Zeller. That would have to be the deepest big rotation in the league. Give Kyrie a dominant offensive big and its game over.

I would want top 7 protection on the 2013 1st, unprotected in 2014, Sac 1st going back, Memphis 2015 1st. I would even take back some money for a year.

Cousins is not a dominant offensive big. He has some nice moves for a C, but his %s are just awful for someone who is lauded for his ability to score the ball.

I will give you the fact his percentages are not anything special. But how much of that is not having a point guard to give him the ball in the right spots. When the Cavs play the Kings, it always seems like Cousins will be dribbling the ball 15-20 feet away from the basket and try to go iso by backing his man up or taking a 16 foot jump shot. Much like Waiters, I think Cousins percentages are more an indication of shot selection than offensive ability.

I'd take the chance that the Kings are just using him wrong, developing him wrong, teaching him wrong, etc, if he didn't also have that numbskull factor.

I think he needs to go to a team with established chemistry and strong leadership, where they can tell him what to do, and he may actually listen and the Cavs aren't there yet.

JonFromVA wrote:I'd take the chance that the Kings are just using him wrong, developing him wrong, teaching him wrong, etc, if he didn't also have that numbskull factor.

I think he needs to go to a team with established chemistry and strong leadership, where they can tell him what to do, and he may actually listen and the Cavs aren't there yet.

he was there for 3 years now, the damage could be permanent.

We've all seen what the kings did to poor old casspi

IMHO wrote:he was there for 3 years now, the damage could be permanent.

Pretty much it's all risk because he's not really an effective player at this point. Not only would he cost us assets, he'd tie up cap space, and potentially throw off our team chemistry.

Or we could draft a kid like Otto Porter who by all reports would slide seamlessly in to our group of young players both on and off the court.

I think Cousins' career with emulate Rasheed's if, I-F, he lands in a good situation.

It's a possibility, but even in his second season Rasheed was a big factor on a 49-win Portland team. The fact 'Sheed liked playing a secondary role limited his upside, but made him pretty easy to fit in on a team - at least talent wise.

'Sheed: Good efficiency, good defense, decent shot blocking, stretches the floor, lackluster rebounding.

Counsins: Poor efficiency, poor defense, so-so shot blocking, likes to shoot long bricks, good rebounding, likes to pass.

Get a good coach with Cousins we will see his efficiency go up.

He needs to be getting the ball in deeper and taking less jumpers. That can all be fixed, his abilities on offense are unheard of for someone his size. He'll never be a shot blocker as he's very grounded. But a good team defense could fix that as he's not helpless, there's just nothing in place there in Sacramento.