how far can we go with this team being healthy?

[IMHO]

Assuming we get about 60 games from Bynum, about 60 from Varejao, if Bennett ends up having a top 3 rookie year.

Further development of Kyrie, Tristan, Waiters...

Signing of Jack + Clark.

I think if we're hitting all cylinders we can come out of east. Top 3 seed.

[Cavs Rising]

There are just so many things going on that it is hard to predict. Coaching, health, rotations, young player growth,etc.

The east is top heavy with 5 teams on top. Knocking just one of them out and grabbing that 5th seed I feel is our realistic peak.

pg- irving and jack should tear it up regardless of what is going on.

sg- I could see waiters having a sophomore slump, I can also see waiters showing himself to be best shooting guard in that draft. We don't have a set back up and will be experimenting \here. Hopefully by midseason Karasav looks better than Miles and gets locked into the spot.

sf- we dont have a legit starting sf. I see Gee and Clark battling to see who gets to be our future back up. Working in Bennett as SF is an unknown. If he can end up playing the 3 successfully that is huge.

pf- Thompson will be solid but I don't expect another crazy jump in performance. If Bennett ends up being only a 4 I have no problems with him playing as back up for the season. The problem of them being both
two good to be back ups isn't a problem we will have to solve this year. Just sit back and enjoy.

c- not going to even get into this really. could be the best center duo in the NBA or Zeller gets to play 35 mpg and we all get to be sad

[TheOUTLAW]

I keep seeing people say that we'd be in play for the 8th seed if everyone was healthy. I think that view is terribly conservative.

[Jwduff]

Realistically they could grab the 6th seed due to their health issues and inexperience that's about the best they could do IMO

[Dupp]

Besides health obviously, everything hinges on defense. We've been god awful for a few years. Lets see how much of an impact brown and the new guys have there, that'll be the measuring point.

Fully healthy though there's no excuse not to make the playoffs with this roster in the east.

[VIPER8382]

If Bynum and Irving are both healthy (70+ games) I see very little chance of this team finishing below the 5th seed in the East. I see them almost certainly behind Brooklyn (my new #1 after stealing Kirilenko) and Miami. I see them most likely behind Indiana also. If Rose comes back healthy and at least near old form I see them likely behind the Bulls also. So if the Cavs stay healthy I predict 3-5. I just don't see how the Knicks can stay in the top end of the East, or even stay ahead of the Cavs if the Cavs stay healthy. If injuries hit Irving and or Bynum I could see the Knicks easily slipping past Cleveland, and if it is both for long periods of time the Cavs could even fall out of the Playoffs altogether, but the depth is there, so they would likely have a great shot at still being the 7 or 8.

[tidho]

If they were healthy all year long they'd have home court in the first round, in part because not everyone else will be totally healthy. More realistically if Bynum is healthy enough to play 60 games we're a playoff lock. It almost doesn't matter what the exact seed is from 5-8 but we'd be one of them.

[defhalotones]

I'm still on the fence with making the playoffs. I think we'll be late lottery this year. I only say this because it might take 1/2 the season to get comfortable in Mike Browns system and playing with a legit center (which none of our starters have really done thus far in their careers). Basically a whole new system. Once we finally get on the same page, it might be too late. And.... this is saying that we are relatively healthy too.

I'm pessimistic by nature with this team over the years.

[TheChosen1ne]

1.Miami Heat
2. Indiana Pacers
3. New York Knicks
4.Chicago Bulls
5.Brooklyn Nets
6.Detroit Pistons
7. Cleveland Cavaliers
8.Toronto Raptors

Book it

[Dupp]

I think the knicks will be the 5th best team in the east this year.

[Brapman]

If healthy, your team would be an absolute beast to play. Yeah, Irving has a chance to be healthy, although you do have to wonder if his injury issues in his career so far are predictive of injury issues in the future.

But Bynum is a whole different kettle of fish. That guy has wrecked knees. Last year, before his injuries killed his entire season, he was on record as saying that since you can't regrow cartilage that he'd play in pain the rest of his career, since right now it's bone on bone. I'd bet that he's very interested in a payday, since he has to figure his career is likely nearing the end. It's too bad, he's a big time talent. But nobody remains a big time talent without knees.

I like the rest of your roster, and I like the accumulation of draft picks in years to come. But, let's face it, you guys don't have a long term answer (yet) at the C position.

[babaffo]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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[fart]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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Never knew Joakim Noah posted on here.

[babaffo]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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Never knew Joakim Noah posted on here.

Burn?

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[Niko23]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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So we should trade Kyrie?

[babaffo]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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So we should trade Kyrie?

That is definitely an interesting idea... To be honest, its hard to trade someone with his potential. And he is still SUPER young. His value would be astronomical, and thus its an interesting idea if your goal is to make the cavs better.

Another issue is that you would be best served getting a small forward from a western conference team, but that talent pool is fairly slim on teams that could use a pg. Maybe a trade like this:

Cavs get
Kawahi Leonard
Ty Lawson

Nugs get
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get
Kenneth faried

Plus some role players for salary purposes. Doing this gives the spurs a successor to Duncan in faried, the cavs fill their glaring hole at sf and maintain a good pg, and the nugs finally get another player to build a franchise around..

These comments have all been predicated on the idea of how far the cavs will go this season.


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[heathmalc]

You cavs fans have to be the most delusional group in real gm if you think the cavs can turn a turd into a 5th seed by adding Bennett and bynum. I get that the eastern conference is garbage and a few teams have become much worse, but the cavs will be lucky to even sniff the playoffs. I like kyrie. I really do, but he doesn't make your team any better. He has the talent to be great, but it won't translate to wins. Kyrie plays for number uno, not the team.

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So we should trade Kyrie?

That is definitely an interesting idea... To be honest, its hard to trade someone with his potential. And he is still SUPER young. His value would be astronomical, and thus its an interesting idea if your goal is to make the cavs better.

Another issue is that you would be best served getting a small forward from a western conference team, but that talent pool is fairly slim on teams that could use a pg. Maybe a trade like this:

Cavs get
Kawahi Leonard
Ty Lawson

Nugs get
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get
Kenneth faried

Plus some role players for salary purposes. Doing this gives the spurs a successor to Duncan in faried, the cavs fill their glaring hole at sf and maintain a good pg, and the nugs finally get another player to build a franchise around..

These comments have all been predicated on the idea of how far the cavs will go this season.


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You are by far one of the most ignorant posters I have come across. At first I wasn't sure if you were just spamming the board, or incredibly naive. But your last post clarified everything for me. You thought you were smoking some of your mom's meth, but instead smoked the ajax. Poor little girl. Run home & go sleepy. Bye bye now.

[babaffo]

So we should trade Kyrie?

That is definitely an interesting idea... To be honest, its hard to trade someone with his potential. And he is still SUPER young. His value would be astronomical, and thus its an interesting idea if your goal is to make the cavs better.

Another issue is that you would be best served getting a small forward from a western conference team, but that talent pool is fairly slim on teams that could use a pg. Maybe a trade like this:

Cavs get
Kawahi Leonard
Ty Lawson

Nugs get
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get
Kenneth faried

Plus some role players for salary purposes. Doing this gives the spurs a successor to Duncan in faried, the cavs fill their glaring hole at sf and maintain a good pg, and the nugs finally get another player to build a franchise around..

These comments have all been predicated on the idea of how far the cavs will go this season.


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You are by far one of the most ignorant posters I have come across. At first I wasn't sure if you were just spamming the board, or incredibly naive. But your last post clarified everything for me. You thought you were smoking some of your mom's meth, but instead smoked the ajax. Poor little girl. Run home & go sleepy. Bye bye now.

Do gooooo onnnnnn

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[BossHoggin]

That is definitely an interesting idea... To be honest, its hard to trade someone with his potential. And he is still SUPER young. His value would be astronomical, and thus its an interesting idea if your goal is to make the cavs better.

Another issue is that you would be best served getting a small forward from a western conference team, but that talent pool is fairly slim on teams that could use a pg. Maybe a trade like this:

Cavs get
Kawahi Leonard
Ty Lawson

Nugs get
Kyrie Irving

Spurs get
Kenneth faried

Plus some role players for salary purposes. Doing this gives the spurs a successor to Duncan in faried, the cavs fill their glaring hole at sf and maintain a good pg, and the nugs finally get another player to build a franchise around..

These comments have all been predicated on the idea of how far the cavs will go this season.


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You are by far one of the most ignorant posters I have come across. At first I wasn't sure if you were just spamming the board, or incredibly naive. But your last post clarified everything for me. You thought you were smoking some of your mom's meth, but instead smoked the ajax. Poor little girl. Run home & go sleepy. Bye bye now.

Do gooooo onnnnnn

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try harder please

[babaffo]

You are by far one of the most ignorant posters I have come across. At first I wasn't sure if you were just spamming the board, or incredibly naive. But your last post clarified everything for me. You thought you were smoking some of your mom's meth, but instead smoked the ajax. Poor little girl. Run home & go sleepy. Bye bye now.

Do gooooo onnnnnn

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try harder please

It won't come out, and now I need some prep h

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