Cav's 2013-2014 roster

Cleveland Fan · Post #1 » by **Cleveland Fan** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:07 pm

Just looking at the Cav's roster & trying to figure out what it will be to start the 13-14 yr. Right now with players under contract & 2013 draft picks we are at 15. We have:

G Kyrie, Dion, Jack & Quinn
G-F Miles, Karazev & Felix
F Gee, Clark, Bennett & Jones
F-C Tristian, Andy & Zeller
C Bynum

Do you think this is our team for 2013? IMO we still have some work to do. Finalize Bynum contract, sign draft picks. Do all 3 make the team? Do we stash Karazev over-seas? Does Quinn & or Jones make the team? Do we make a trade? Do we sign more Free Agents? IMO there are more moves to be made. Your thoughts

Post #2 » by **B Mac** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:08 pm

Only move I see being made is cutting Quinn and signing a better 3rd string PG. The rest of the lineup looks set to me.

tidho · Post #3 » by **tidho** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:03 pm

I think everything is really set except for SF.

With the depth with the bigs Bennett and Clark are going to have to see most of their minutes at SF. I suppose you can use Gee, Miles, or Felix at SG but they're really all Forwards. Could be a long season for Miles as he's the worst defender out of that group.

bgrep14 · Post #4 » by **bgrep14** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:17 pm

I donno what cavs team youv been watching but waiters is the starting sg not the backup pg

tidho · Post #5 » by **tidho** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:27 pm

Cleveland Fan wrote:G Kyrie, Dion, Jack & Quinn
G-F Miles, Karazev & Felix
F Gee, Clark, Bennett & Jones
F-C Tristian, Andy & Zeller
C Bynum

Quinn and Jones are gone, but otherwise this is the team - sounds like Karasev is coming over right away.
I'd rearrange it like this...

PG Irving, Jack
SG Waiters, Karasev, Felix
SF Clark, Gee, Miles
PF Thompson, Andy, Bennett
C Bynum, Zeller

They've already said Bennett isn't playing SF and that Waiters isn't playing PG. This is one of the deeper teams in the league.

Cleveland Fan · Post #6 » by **Cleveland Fan** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:56 am

bgrep14 wrote:I donno what cavs team youv been watching but waiters is the starting sg not the backup pg

My list is not the starting line-up, Dion is the starting SG. On my list I have the players at what position they can play, the guards are Kyrie, Dion, Jack & Quinn. Did not Have Dion listed as back-up PG.

tidho · Post #7 » by **tidho** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:18 pm

The strict traditional positions seem to be a thing of the past in the NBA, so I agree with the mindset of the original presentation. At the same time that isn't consistent with comments Brown has made about Waiters and Bennett.

That's why I'm assuming he'll be old school and silo guys into the traditional structure.

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:45 pm

tidho wrote:The strict traditional positions seem to be a thing of the past in the NBA, so I agree with the mindset of the original presentation. At the same time that isn't consistent with comments Brown has made about Waiters and Bennett.

That's why I'm assuming he'll be old school and silo guys into the traditional structure.

Possibly, but if that's the case, he would also silo Clark into being a PF.

I like that Brown is eliminating the "assumptions" and just stating up front that this year Dion is a SG and Anthony is a PF. I think it's best for a young guy like these two to just focus on one spot and build up success, and then cross-train at other spots.

A healthy Kyrie and you're in the playoffs. A reasonably healthy year from the Varejao/Bynum platoon and you're even further.

tidho · Post #9 » by **tidho** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:12 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:I like that Brown is eliminating the "assumptions" and just stating up front that this year Dion is a SG and Anthony is a PF. I think it's best for a young guy like these two to just focus on one spot and build up success, and then cross-train at other spots.

I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, and it makes sense that a very defined role would help a developing player. I don't know if traditional positions are how that role should be defined anymore though.

Post #10 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:24 pm

tidho wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:I like that Brown is eliminating the "assumptions" and just stating up front that this year Dion is a SG and Anthony is a PF. I think it's best for a young guy like these two to just focus on one spot and build up success, and then cross-train at other spots.

I hadn't thought of it from that perspective, and it makes sense that a very defined role would help a developing player. I don't know if traditional positions are how that role should be defined anymore though.

In Indy, we saw it work out immensely better for Lance Stephenson when we told him to play as a pure 2 and not jump between both PG and SG. All of a sudden, he knew how to play, and fit the team extremely well. Maybe in another 2 or 3 years we cross-train him again as a combo guard, but for now, we're just happy to see him be a valuable contributor at any position, let alone 2.

I think Dion will succeed in much the same way.

Lebron45 · Post #11 » by **Lebron45** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:03 am

Sergei just signed

chas0x01 · Post #12 » by **chas0x01** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:48 am

Gotta say I really like your time. If Bynum can stay healthy (at least going into the playoffs), and if Bennett can play the 3 (he would be the best candidate for this amoung your bigs), and with the natural improvement of your young players, I can see the Cavs doing some damage this coming season.

Obvious playoff teams - heat, bulls, knicks, nets, pacers.

Likely playoff teams - Detroit, Cavs, Washington

imo, detroit, cleveland, and the wizards arent that far off from the likely higher seeds, with the exception of miami.

Post #13 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:09 pm

chas0x01 wrote:Gotta say I really like your time. If Bynum can stay healthy (at least going into the playoffs), and if Bennett can play the 3 (he would be the best candidate for this amoung your bigs), and with the natural improvement of your young players, I can see the Cavs doing some damage this coming season.

Obvious playoff teams - heat, bulls, knicks, nets, pacers.

Likely playoff teams - Detroit, Cavs, Washington

imo, detroit, cleveland, and the wizards arent that far off from the likely higher seeds, with the exception of miami.

I think the Knicks are ripe to be knocked down a few rungs. Ultimately, I think that the other 4 are firmly entrenched in the top 4 seeds.

No-Man · Post #14 » by **No-Man** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:44 pm

Knicks are underrated, they'll probably be a better team than Indiana and Brooklyn during the RS, PO is another story though.

there are 2 spots for 4 teams, Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto and Atlanta, Washington is a lock to be 6th and Boston, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Orlando and Phila are top5 bottom.

Cavaliers roster,

Irving-Jack
Waiters-Miles-Karasev
Clark-Gee-Felix
Thompson-Bennett
Bynum-Varejao-Zeller

This is it right now, I guess Walton and Gibson could come back for the vetmin.

Post #15 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:54 pm

Washington isn't a lock for anything. That's just nonsense

mcfly1204 · Post #16 » by **mcfly1204** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:36 pm

How are the Knicks underrated? If anything, I would say the opposite is true. Lack of depth, poor front court defense, they need a lot of things to happen to make any noise next season.

XonezIOIzenoX · Post #17 » by **XonezIOIzenoX** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:47 pm

Here is to cleveland! I Wish you guys the best these next couple of seasons. I am also hoping Bynum become healthy enough to play like he use to so you guys can be top 5 team in the east.

Love
Magic Fan.

chas0x01 · Post #18 » by **chas0x01** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:22 am

Scoot McGroot wrote:
chas0x01 wrote:Gotta say I really like your time. If Bynum can stay healthy (at least going into the playoffs), and if Bennett can play the 3 (he would be the best candidate for this amoung your bigs), and with the natural improvement of your young players, I can see the Cavs doing some damage this coming season.

Obvious playoff teams - heat, bulls, knicks, nets, pacers.

Likely playoff teams - Detroit, Cavs, Washington

imo, detroit, cleveland, and the wizards arent that far off from the likely higher seeds, with the exception of miami.

I think the Knicks are ripe to be knocked down a few rungs. Ultimately, I think that the other 4 are firmly entrenched in the top 4 seeds.

imo the Knicks are definitely a playoff team (they won their division last season). But I think they closer to the bottom 4 seeds than they are the top 4. But I don't think the bottom 4 seeds will be that bad, so that's not that much of a knock on the Knicks. I just think the Nets clearly jumped ahead of'm.

Post #19 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:33 am

chas0x01 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
chas0x01 wrote:Gotta say I really like your time. If Bynum can stay healthy (at least going into the playoffs), and if Bennett can play the 3 (he would be the best candidate for this amoung your bigs), and with the natural improvement of your young players, I can see the Cavs doing some damage this coming season.

Obvious playoff teams - heat, bulls, knicks, nets, pacers.

Likely playoff teams - Detroit, Cavs, Washington

imo, detroit, cleveland, and the wizards arent that far off from the likely higher seeds, with the exception of miami.

I think the Knicks are ripe to be knocked down a few rungs. Ultimately, I think that the other 4 are firmly entrenched in the top 4 seeds.

imo the Knicks are definitely a playoff team (they won their division last season). But I think they closer to the bottom 4 seeds than they are the top 4. But I don't think the bottom 4 seeds will be that bad, so that's not that much of a knock on the Knicks. I just think the Nets clearly jumped ahead of'm.

Yeah, I think they're still clearly a playoff team. I just think they got a little worse this offseason. They still have talent.

2Mas · Post #20 » by **2Mas** » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:05 pm

Hawks are a playoff team too. Not a lock but there in the Det, Wash, Cle area.

Same team as last year, added a couple rooks, lost Smith but got Millsap there gonna be in that fight.