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I wrote a long blog today about the Cavs in a series I'm doing and talked about their issues, what lineups work best for them, very statistics based. There are a bunch of disses towards Cleveland as a city in there but I plan to do that for every team so please don't take it too personally.

http://beardfacesports.blogspot.com

If you consider this self promoting, I'll take out some quotes from the post itself, but I intend this to really just be a discussion on if you believe this to be fairly accurate or not.


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You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

If we are being honest, the Cavs already have two really good SGs, it's just that one of them is playing out of position.

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.


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76ers fan obsessed with Waiters. Big surprise.

BossHoggin wrote:76ers fan obsessed with Waiters. Big surprise.

Lmao. It's an NBA post about the Cavs. I mention Waiters and evaluate him. I have no real interest in trading for him.


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eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.

Very astute point of view you have, I am surprised you did not attempt to cherry pick more stats to give it some weight.

eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.


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If you look at his splits, Dion actually plays considerably better as a starter. Here are his post all star break numbers in only his second year: FG% .460, 3P% .370, TS% .535, PPG 19.3.

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eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.

Very astute point of view you have, I am surprised you did not attempt to cherry pick more stats to give it some weight.

I wrote this article from absolutely no place of bias. I picked stats based on what I know about the Cavs analytically and tried to find the most interesting stats I could. I'm sorry if this is too negative for you, but there is no bias here.


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jbk1234 wrote:

eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:You say Cleveland needs to upgrade at SG, but then you recommend Hayward at the 3 despite the fact that he technically logged a lowered eFG% than Waiters last season. This is a bush-league blog post. Oh, and they are the Pyramids of Giza.

The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.


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If you look at his splits, Dion actually plays considerably better as a starter. Here are his post all star break numbers in only his second year: FG% .460, 3P% .370, TS% .535, PPG 19.3.

You have to factor in 8 out of those 30 or so games was without Kyrie which I mention in the article.


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eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:

eliasrapp98 wrote:The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.

Very astute point of view you have, I am surprised you did not attempt to cherry pick more stats to give it some weight.

I wrote this article from absolutely no place of bias. I picked stats based on what I know about the Cavs analytically and tried to find the most interesting stats I could. I'm sorry if this is too negative for you, but there is no bias here.

Maybe you should keep typing that until someone else believes it.

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eliasrapp98 wrote:

mcfly1204 wrote:Very astute point of view you have, I am surprised you did not attempt to cherry pick more stats to give it some weight.

I wrote this article from absolutely no place of bias. I picked stats based on what I know about the Cavs analytically and tried to find the most interesting stats I could. I'm sorry if this is too negative for you, but there is no bias here.

Maybe you should keep typing that until someone else believes it.

This is unbelievable lol. I have no bias. Why do you think I do? I was hardly negative about the Cavs at all...


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eliasrapp98 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:

eliasrapp98 wrote:The reason Waiters shouldn't start has nothing to do with eFG%. Waiters just doesn't fit well with Kyrie. He is best suited for a 6th man role. Simple as that. And thanks for the compliments man.


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If you look at his splits, Dion actually plays considerably better as a starter. Here are his post all star break numbers in only his second year: FG% .460, 3P% .370, TS% .535, PPG 19.3.

You have to factor in 8 out of those 30 or so games was without Kyrie which I mention in the article.


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I guess I'm curious as to what you think an "upgrade" over Waiters looks like.

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eliasrapp98 wrote:

jbk1234 wrote:
If you look at his splits, Dion actually plays considerably better as a starter. Here are his post all star break numbers in only his second year: FG% .460, 3P% .370, TS% .535, PPG 19.3.

You have to factor in 8 out of those 30 or so games was without Kyrie which I mention in the article.


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I guess I'm curious as to what you think an "upgrade" over Waiters looks like.

A better fit. A 3&D player. Waiters is fine but not with Kyrie.


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Today Waiters is fine, yesterday he was a bust, or so you stated.

mcfly1204 wrote:Today Waiters is fine, yesterday he was a bust, or so you stated.

He was very clearly a bust before he started looking pretty good after all star break. I'm still not ready to say that he won't just bust.


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In general, it's generally not a good idea to write a very opinionated article about a team that you do not primarily follow, post it on that team's forum, and then argue with those fans who know much more about that team than you when they disagree with your opinions.


Truthfully, I didnt read your article, and dont intend to, but my job is to keep the peace. These types of threads usually dont turn out to positively, but I'll let it stay for now and hope that you guys can police yourselves.

B Mac wrote:In general, it's generally not a good idea to write a very opinionated article about a team that you do not primarily follow, post it on that team's forum, and then argue with those fans who know much more about that team than you when they disagree with your opinions.


Truthfully, I didnt read your article, and dont intend to, but my job is to keep the peace. These types of threads usually dont turn out to positively, but I'll let it stay for now and hope that you guys can police yourselves.

I get that but I'm being attacked as a hater and biased when all I did was write a stat-based article.

eliasrapp98 wrote:

B Mac wrote:In general, it's generally not a good idea to write a very opinionated article about a team that you do not primarily follow, post it on that team's forum, and then argue with those fans who know much more about that team than you when they disagree with your opinions.


Truthfully, I didnt read your article, and dont intend to, but my job is to keep the peace. These types of threads usually dont turn out to positively, but I'll let it stay for now and hope that you guys can police yourselves.

I get that but I'm being attacked as a hater and biased when all I did was write a stat-based article.

Calling that drub a stat-based article is the equivalent of me saying you are an absolutely terrible poster based on a handful of your comments on these forums.

mcfly1204 wrote:

eliasrapp98 wrote:

B Mac wrote:In general, it's generally not a good idea to write a very opinionated article about a team that you do not primarily follow, post it on that team's forum, and then argue with those fans who know much more about that team than you when they disagree with your opinions.


Truthfully, I didnt read your article, and dont intend to, but my job is to keep the peace. These types of threads usually dont turn out to positively, but I'll let it stay for now and hope that you guys can police yourselves.

I get that but I'm being attacked as a hater and biased when all I did was write a stat-based article.

Calling that drub a stat-based article is the equivalent of me saying you are an absolutely terrible poster based on a handful of your comments.

Well thank you. It was a fun 6 hours.


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