Kyrie vs. Waiters this off season

Post #1 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:25 pm

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Niko23 · Post #2 » by **Niko23** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:32 pm

Waiters sucks and is a chucker though........

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:05 pm

Niko23 wrote:Waiters sucks and is a chucker though........

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Post #4 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:33 am

This could be interesting because you know that Waiters is going to try to prove he's every bit as good as Kyrie.

Dupp · Post #5 » by **Dupp** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:37 am

Is there anyway of watching this?

GoldStandard23 · Post #6 » by **GoldStandard23** » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:04 pm

Would love to see how Dion performs. Regardless, I think he's traded by the beginning of the season

Post #7 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:33 pm

Dupp wrote:Is there anyway of watching this?

I hope so.

SwishMaster90 · Post #8 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:28 am

Still trying to figure out how the starting line-up will work with 4 ball dominant guys playing together if Love comes. I mean with Wiggins all we would have to worry about is defense and him getting to the line or being used in a fast break. Someone has to go me thinks. Waiters?

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:29 am

SwishMaster90 wrote:Still trying to figure out how the starting line-up will work with 4 ball dominant guys playing together if Love comes. I mean with Wiggins all we would have to worry about is defense and him getting to the line or being used in a fast break. Someone has to go me thinks. Waiters?

Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

SwishMaster90 · Post #10 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:39 am

jbk1234 wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:Still trying to figure out how the starting line-up will work with 4 ball dominant guys playing together if Love comes. I mean with Wiggins all we would have to worry about is defense and him getting to the line or being used in a fast break. Someone has to go me thinks. Waiters?

Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

SwishMaster90 · Post #11 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:40 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:This could be interesting because you know that Waiters is going to try to prove he's every bit as good as Kyrie.

You forgot Love and possibly LBJ...

SwishMaster90 · Post #12 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:43 am

GoldStandard23 wrote:Would love to see how Dion performs. Regardless, I think he's traded by the beginning of the season

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Post #13 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:45 am

SwishMaster90 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:Still trying to figure out how the starting line-up will work with 4 ball dominant guys playing together if Love comes. I mean with Wiggins all we would have to worry about is defense and him getting to the line or being used in a fast break. Someone has to go me thinks. Waiters?

Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

If Love is in Cleveland, Wiggins will be in Minny. Frankly, I blame the fit issues more on Kyrie than Waiters. I think that Blatt and LBJ are going to squash that garbage early and definitively.

SwishMaster90 · Post #14 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:52 am

jbk1234 wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

If Love is in Cleveland, Wiggins will be in Minny. Frankly, I blame the fit issues more on Kyrie than Waiters. I think that Blatt and LBJ are going to squash that garbage early and definitively.

Hey be optimistic here. Him signing could be a sign that he was promised of a no trade. I mean I really think he was stalling if you ask me. But yeah Kyrie is questionable but at the same time he is the point guard and you know Thaddeus you'll get a little of ball hogging from him but Dion chucks at times. Am the only one who thinks that it won't be easy for Bron to "squash" all egos? Not easy but inevitable.

SwishMaster90 · Post #15 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:53 am

SwishMaster90 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

If Love is in Cleveland, Wiggins will be in Minny. Frankly, I blame the fit issues more on Kyrie than Waiters. I think that Blatt and LBJ are going to squash that garbage early and definitively.

Hey be optimistic here. Him signing could be a sign that he was promised of a no trade. I mean I really think he was stalling if you ask me. But yeah Kyrie is questionable but at the same time he is the point guard and you know Thaddeus you'll get a little of ball hogging from him but Dion chucks at times. Am the only one who thinks that it won't be easy for Bron to "squash" all egos? Not easy but inevitable.

I meant to say "that" not "thaddeus" on cell so...work with me

Post #16 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:39 am

SwishMaster90 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:Still trying to figure out how the starting line-up will work with 4 ball dominant guys playing together if Love comes. I mean with Wiggins all we would have to worry about is defense and him getting to the line or being used in a fast break. Someone has to go me thinks. Waiters?

Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

So, now Wiggins is ball dominant also? To be honest, I didn't think Waiters was ball dominant at all. The ball moved very well when he was on the floor not to mention the ball moved very well in Miami as well. So, I'm not sure LeBron can be called ball dominant either. It appears to me that players tend to be ball dominant when there are limited offensive options or that they don't trust the other players on their team. The fact is, the Cavs will have some pretty accomplished ofensive players.

SwishMaster90 · Post #17 » by **SwishMaster90** » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:48 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Cavs aren't trading Wiggins and Waiters.

That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

So, now Wiggins is ball dominant also? To be honest, I didn't think Waiters was ball dominant at all. The ball moved very well when he was on the floor not to mention the ball moved very well in Miami as well. So, I'm not sure LeBron can be called ball dominant either. It appears to me that players tend to be ball dominant when there are limited offensive options or that they don't trust the other players on their team. The fact is, the Cavs will have some pretty accomplished ofensive players.

See we're not on the same page. I was talking about Kyrie, LeBron, Kevin Love and Dion Waiters as the 4 dominant players. We already know about Kyrie. LeBron still has not moved enough without the ball. His spot up three is pretty good but sometimes he does not slash enough for a player who's already in the paint (like if Kyrie was the guy). Love is good from three too but was like 22-25 perfect of his teams points so... and Dion drives more than shoots so unless he becomes more of a spot up shooter like Kyrie's trying to become... that is too much. If he stays, I think Waiters should come off the bunch to give us numbers.

This is all not including Wiggins who I said would be the defensive guy. I never said he would be dominant but I guess you thought I was referring to him about the 4 dominant players. No I meant Love if we make the trade

God Squad · Post #18 » by **God Squad** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:46 pm

SwishMaster90 wrote:
TheOUTLAW wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
That's their preference if they think that having 4 dominant ball players will work. I might be wrong but with how Kyrie and Waiters most likely were like last year... and that's why I added Wiggins because I still don't believe we cannot not keep him. Don't care what the media says or Flip. There's always a way in every situation. We play smart and pray LOL

So, now Wiggins is ball dominant also? To be honest, I didn't think Waiters was ball dominant at all. The ball moved very well when he was on the floor not to mention the ball moved very well in Miami as well. So, I'm not sure LeBron can be called ball dominant either. It appears to me that players tend to be ball dominant when there are limited offensive options or that they don't trust the other players on their team. The fact is, the Cavs will have some pretty accomplished ofensive players.

See we're not on the same page. I was talking about Kyrie, LeBron, Kevin Love and Dion Waiters as the 4 dominant players. We already know about Kyrie. LeBron still has not moved enough without the ball. His spot up three is pretty good but sometimes he does not slash enough for a player who's already in the paint (like if Kyrie was the guy). Love is good from three too but was like 22-25 perfect of his teams points so... and Dion drives more than shoots so unless he becomes more of a spot up shooter like Kyrie's trying to become... that is too much. If he stays, I think Waiters should come off the bunch to give us numbers.

This is all not including Wiggins who I said would be the defensive guy. I never said he would be dominant but I guess you thought I was referring to him about the 4 dominant players. No I meant Love if we make the trade

I wouldn't really consider Love "that" ball dominate. Considering what he had to work with in Minny. He was arguably their only legit scoring option. So obviously he put up more shots than anyone on the team. I believe next in line would be Kevin Martin. So yeah.

Scrapachenko · Post #19 » by **Scrapachenko** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:59 pm

God Squad wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
TheOUTLAW wrote:
So, now Wiggins is ball dominant also? To be honest, I didn't think Waiters was ball dominant at all. The ball moved very well when he was on the floor not to mention the ball moved very well in Miami as well. So, I'm not sure LeBron can be called ball dominant either. It appears to me that players tend to be ball dominant when there are limited offensive options or that they don't trust the other players on their team. The fact is, the Cavs will have some pretty accomplished ofensive players.

See we're not on the same page. I was talking about Kyrie, LeBron, Kevin Love and Dion Waiters as the 4 dominant players. We already know about Kyrie. LeBron still has not moved enough without the ball. His spot up three is pretty good but sometimes he does not slash enough for a player who's already in the paint (like if Kyrie was the guy). Love is good from three too but was like 22-25 perfect of his teams points so... and Dion drives more than shoots so unless he becomes more of a spot up shooter like Kyrie's trying to become... that is too much. If he stays, I think Waiters should come off the bunch to give us numbers.

This is all not including Wiggins who I said would be the defensive guy. I never said he would be dominant but I guess you thought I was referring to him about the 4 dominant players. No I meant Love if we make the trade

I wouldn't really consider Love "that" ball dominate. Considering what he had to work with in Minny. He was arguably their only legit scoring option. So obviously he put up more shots than anyone on the team. I believe next in line would be Kevin Martin. So yeah.

Exactly... What's he going to do? Kick it out to Rubio? Not a good idea unless he's short on bricks for his new home.

SwishMaster90 · Post #20 » by **SwishMaster90** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:00 am

Scrapachenko wrote:
God Squad wrote:
SwishMaster90 wrote:
See we're not on the same page. I was talking about Kyrie, LeBron, Kevin Love and Dion Waiters as the 4 dominant players. We already know about Kyrie. LeBron still has not moved enough without the ball. His spot up three is pretty good but sometimes he does not slash enough for a player who's already in the paint (like if Kyrie was the guy). Love is good from three too but was like 22-25 perfect of his teams points so... and Dion drives more than shoots so unless he becomes more of a spot up shooter like Kyrie's trying to become... that is too much. If he stays, I think Waiters should come off the bunch to give us numbers.

This is all not including Wiggins who I said would be the defensive guy. I never said he would be dominant but I guess you thought I was referring to him about the 4 dominant players. No I meant Love if we make the trade

I wouldn't really consider Love "that" ball dominate. Considering what he had to work with in Minny. He was arguably their only legit scoring option. So obviously he put up more shots than anyone on the team. I believe next in line would be Kevin Martin. So yeah.

Exactly... What's he going to do? Kick it out to Rubio? Not a good idea unless he's short on bricks for his new home.

Yeah but for Love, he would be so use to "being the offensive guy" that a environment where 3 other good offensive guys would take some adjusting too. But it doesn't matter to me because personally, I want Wiggins instead of Waiters.