Cavs v. Spurs (worth a thread)

Post #1 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:41 am

Spurs are 22-0 at home this year. Cavs are going to have play well to have a chance. No careless turnovers.

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:19 am

Good start.

lambchop · Post #3 » by **lambchop** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:49 am

horrible 2nd quarter

Post #4 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:12 am

Lots of home cooking. Still don't understand why the Refs seem to want to not give LeBron and 1's he clearly deserves.

Post #5 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:37 am

Just wish this was being called evenly.

Post #6 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:43 am

This is ridiculus

Post #7 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:45 am

Kyrie hits the 3 while his hands are knocked away. Should have been an and 1

lambchop · Post #8 » by **lambchop** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:15 am

definitely some home cooking. But the spurs D is just suffocating the cavs right now. Every shot is contested or off balance after bad passes, the pick n rolls are useless.
Since parker can contain curry, there are no real mismatches for the cavs, which is making their offense stall.

When the bigs DO switch onto lebron, spurs quickly switch a 2-3 zone to clog the paint

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:41 am

Well that was the most horribly officiated game I've ever seen. Ever.

mjj0062 · Post #10 » by **mjj0062** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:54 am

Well this game basically told me what I already knew. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs. The coaching mismatch is pretty big and Love isn't really a big game player.

I don't see anybody they can realistically get at the trade deadline that puts them over the top either, unless they deal Love

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:02 am

mjj0062 wrote:Well this game basically told me what I already knew. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs. The coaching mismatch is pretty big and Love isn't really a big game player.

I don't see anybody they can realistically get at the trade deadline that puts them over the top either, unless they deal Love

GTFO. Seriously. Love isn't going anywhere. Our front court owned their front court until the officials took the game over.

mjj0062 · Post #12 » by **mjj0062** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:12 am

jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:Well this game basically told me what I already knew. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs. The coaching mismatch is pretty big and Love isn't really a big game player.

I don't see anybody they can realistically get at the trade deadline that puts them over the top either, unless they deal Love

GTFO. Seriously. Love isn't going anywhere. Our front court owned their front court until the officials took the game over.

Love's help defense is atrocious. And the fact that this team still struggles to score at times makes me believe that the offensive system just isnt any good. Either that or Love just doesn't fit.

Love is a volume scorer that needs the rock to be effective. Its not a good fit because he can't get the ball enough. And the reality of it is the Cavs would have won the title without him last season had Irving not gone down.

Post #13 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:17 am

mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:Well this game basically told me what I already knew. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs. The coaching mismatch is pretty big and Love isn't really a big game player.

I don't see anybody they can realistically get at the trade deadline that puts them over the top either, unless they deal Love

GTFO. Seriously. Love isn't going anywhere. Our front court owned their front court until the officials took the game over.

Love's help defense is atrocious. And the fact that this team still struggles to score at times makes me believe that the offensive system just isnt any good. Either that or Love just doesn't fit.

Love is a volume scorer that needs the rock to be effective. Its not a good fit because he can't get the ball enough. And the reality of it is the Cavs would have won the title without him last season had Irving not gone down.

We couldn't score because no one other than LBJ could get a foul call in the second half so everyone started chucking up jumpers. Even then Love called for an offensive foul. I'm sorry, I don't blame losses on officials but that game was a fate accompli.

Post #14 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:23 am

lambchop wrote:definitely some home cooking. But the spurs D is just suffocating the cavs right now. Every shot is contested or off balance after bad passes, the pick n rolls are useless.
Since parker can contain curry, there are no real mismatches for the cavs, which is making their offense stall.

When the bigs DO switch onto lebron, spurs quickly switch a 2-3 zone to clog the paint

Well yeah there defense is tough when they are allowed to play like that. On several occasions Kyrie is using the pick to go around Parker and you can see that Parker is basically sticking with Kyrie cause he's giving him a wedgie. That's not defense that's a foul.

mjj0062 · Post #15 » by **mjj0062** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:25 am

jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
GTFO. Seriously. Love isn't going anywhere. Our front court owned their front court until the officials took the game over.

Love's help defense is atrocious. And the fact that this team still struggles to score at times makes me believe that the offensive system just isnt any good. Either that or Love just doesn't fit.

Love is a volume scorer that needs the rock to be effective. Its not a good fit because he can't get the ball enough. And the reality of it is the Cavs would have won the title without him last season had Irving not gone down.

We couldn't score because no one other than LBJ could get a foul call in the second half so everyone started chucking up jumpers. Even then Love called for an offensive call. I'm sorry, I don't blame losses on officials but that game was a fate accompli.

I agree it was bad refs but you can't blame it all on that. You have to remember we would have to beat them 4 out of 7 times and thats going to be difficult to do with subpar coaching by Blatt. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs no need to make excuses

Post #16 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:33 am

mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:
Love's help defense is atrocious. And the fact that this team still struggles to score at times makes me believe that the offensive system just isnt any good. Either that or Love just doesn't fit.

Love is a volume scorer that needs the rock to be effective. Its not a good fit because he can't get the ball enough. And the reality of it is the Cavs would have won the title without him last season had Irving not gone down.

We couldn't score because no one other than LBJ could get a foul call in the second half so everyone started chucking up jumpers. Even then Love called for an offensive call. I'm sorry, I don't blame losses on officials but that game was a fate accompli.

I agree it was bad refs but you can't blame it all on that. You have to remember we would have to beat them 4 out of 7 times and thats going to be difficult to do with subpar coaching by Blatt. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs no need to make excuses

I can blame 85% of that game on the officials. You were the one who said we couldn't compete with the Spurs. We had that game and all of a sudden we get like six calls in a row against us in the fourth quarter? Come on man. Blatt should have picked up a technical or two (security would have been walking me out of the building). He gets 5%. Kyrie couldn't hit an outside shot and couldn't guard Parker. He's responsible for the other 10%. It didn't matter who we had behind him (TT, Love or Mozgov). Kyrie has to learn that he can't finish a game where Parker goes off for 24 points and Kyrie only picks up one foul in garbage time. Dude has six fouls and plays 30 minutes. Use some of them.

mjj0062 · Post #17 » by **mjj0062** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:51 am

jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
We couldn't score because no one other than LBJ could get a foul call in the second half so everyone started chucking up jumpers. Even then Love called for an offensive call. I'm sorry, I don't blame losses on officials but that game was a fate accompli.

I agree it was bad refs but you can't blame it all on that. You have to remember we would have to beat them 4 out of 7 times and thats going to be difficult to do with subpar coaching by Blatt. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs no need to make excuses

I can blame 85% of that game on the officials. You were the one who said we couldn't compete with the Spurs. We had that game and all of a sudden we get like six calls in a row against us in the fourth quarter? Come on man. Blatt should have picked up a technical or two (security would have been walking me out of the building). He gets 5%. Kyrie couldn't hit an outside shot and couldn't guard Parker. He's responsible for the other 10%. It didn't matter who we had behind him (TT, Love or Mozgov). Kyrie has to learn that he can't finish a game where Parker goes off for 24 points and Kyrie only picks up one foul in garbage time. Dude has six fouls and plays 30 minutes. Use some of them.

Dude im just tired of hearing the excuses. We **** lost because we have a coach that doesn't know what he is doing, its not the refs fault. Not only that but Kyrie had a subpar game and Love is a disappearing act like usual.

Mozgov have regressed from last season and Blatt can never put the right combinations of players on the floor together. I don't know how you can realistically come out of this game with your mind changed that the Cavs can beat the spurs 4 times out of 7, I sure as hell don't think that.

yoyoboy · Post #18 » by **yoyoboy** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:54 am

Not even mad to be honest. We played a good, close game, and Kyrie still has ways to go before getting back to form. LeBron also looked really, really tired out there. We need to start getting him some rest.

It's still just January and the Spurs haven't lost at home since we played them in Marg of last year. A competitive game is pretty much the best we could hope for right now. Hopefully we can get them back when they come to the Q later this month.

Post #19 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:57 am

mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:
I agree it was bad refs but you can't blame it all on that. You have to remember we would have to beat them 4 out of 7 times and thats going to be difficult to do with subpar coaching by Blatt. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs no need to make excuses

I can blame 85% of that game on the officials. You were the one who said we couldn't compete with the Spurs. We had that game and all of a sudden we get like six calls in a row against us in the fourth quarter? Come on man. Blatt should have picked up a technical or two (security would have been walking me out of the building). He gets 5%. Kyrie couldn't hit an outside shot and couldn't guard Parker. He's responsible for the other 10%. It didn't matter who we had behind him (TT, Love or Mozgov). Kyrie has to learn that he can't finish a game where Parker goes off for 24 points and Kyrie only picks up one foul in garbage time. Dude has six fouls and plays 30 minutes. Use some of them.

Dude im just tired of hearing the excuses. We **** lost because we have a coach that doesn't know what he is doing, its not the refs fault. Not only that but Kyrie had a subpar game and Love is a disappearing act like usual.

Mozgov have regressed from last season and Blatt can never put the right combinations of players on the floor together. I don't know how you can realistically come out of this game with your mind changed that the Cavs can beat the spurs 4 times out of 7, I sure as hell don't think that.

We lost by four points to a team that is 23-0 at home when the officials decided they needed help. What I expect is that we aren't going to be the Globetrotters playing the Generals regardless of who we trade for. Let's give this a little more time.

yoyoboy · Post #20 » by **yoyoboy** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:57 am

mjj0062 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
mjj0062 wrote:
I agree it was bad refs but you can't blame it all on that. You have to remember we would have to beat them 4 out of 7 times and thats going to be difficult to do with subpar coaching by Blatt. The Spurs are just a little bit better then the Cavs no need to make excuses

I can blame 85% of that game on the officials. You were the one who said we couldn't compete with the Spurs. We had that game and all of a sudden we get like six calls in a row against us in the fourth quarter? Come on man. Blatt should have picked up a technical or two (security would have been walking me out of the building). He gets 5%. Kyrie couldn't hit an outside shot and couldn't guard Parker. He's responsible for the other 10%. It didn't matter who we had behind him (TT, Love or Mozgov). Kyrie has to learn that he can't finish a game where Parker goes off for 24 points and Kyrie only picks up one foul in garbage time. Dude has six fouls and plays 30 minutes. Use some of them.

Dude im just tired of hearing the excuses. We **** lost because we have a coach that doesn't know what he is doing, its not the refs fault. Not only that but Kyrie had a subpar game and Love is a disappearing act like usual.

Mozgov have regressed from last season and Blatt can never put the right combinations of players on the floor together. I don't know how you can realistically come out of this game with your mind changed that the Cavs can beat the spurs 4 times out of 7, I sure as hell don't think that.

Blatt hasn't been great, but Kyrie and LeBron are doing him no favors when they revert to that ISO ball crap. We were winning handily in the first half because we kept the ball moving. Then Kyrie and LeBron got lazy, stopped looking for Love in the post, and overall made poor decisions on the offensive end.

Also, Kyrie's defense was atrocious tonight. He needs to get that up to at least mediocre level, or else we have no shot at beating anyone in the Finals.